Security at Nation

[markie]

I dont think so.....
 
 
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[Guiny]

I was there about two months ago at one of those DJ parties. My girl loves that stuff so i had to take a weekend off from Polyesthers. Anyways i almost got in a fight cause her ex was there. That woulda been great, getting arrested for something other than drugs or alcohol at Nation's.

[angelml]

Originally posted by worktheweb:
  Has anyone else experienced this kind of treatment at Nation or elsewhere?

yep...they take forever to get you in...one time even got there extremely late and there was still at long line waiting to get in...and i usually get dinner before someone pats me down like that...i try to avoid nation if i can...

[worktheweb]

Rob ... I'm not upset at the security personnel, but rather the policy which makes them do what they do.  I know this won't change Nation's policy ... if enough people complained, maybe, but probably not.  I just find it unfortunate that they have a policy that basically allows them to search your person without probable cause and without notifying you of said policy before the purchase of the ticket.  The police could not do this to you if they wanted without a warrant -- I get the honor of paying $30 to be felt up and liberated of medicine recommended by a doctor to see a rock show.  There is no legal mandate or requirement for them to do this ... they choose to.
 
 I know it probably won't change, but I don't like it.  Makes me appreciate 9:30/Black Cat even more ...
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[Guiny]

The Police DO NOT need a warrant to search you. And the statement wasnt directly towards you even though the topic is yours, it was for everyone that has complained. I dont like standing in long lines either, but if it keeps weapons out of the place then i'm for it. Its not gonna keep the drugs out, well except the prescription ones obviously, from what i hear. But maybe they can catch one or two people a night and maybe get their dumbasses arrested or kicked out. I dont go there very often so its not a big deal to me. I think the Black Cat's line for getting in is as slow as they get. Two concerts ago i was in line for 45 minutes!!!!!!!!!!! 9:30 Clubs has been getting slower also, not 45 minutes but i remember the dayz i'd get there and walk right in.

[jkeisenh]

I think the point here is that anytime you enter private property, the owner has the right to set the terms of your entry.  If you don't like it don't go there... that's all there is to it.  If they wanted to, they could require all entrants to wear tutus, or they could require you to check all belongings, or they could require you to sing "Mmm-Bop."  Either way, if you don't like it, your problem.  (remember on the ticket that
 
 Beside, it's Nation.  Can't say I don't think they need the security...
 
 

Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
  The Police DO NOT need a warrant to search you. And the statement wasnt directly towards you even though the topic is yours, it was for everyone that has complained. I dont like standing in long lines either, but if it keeps weapons out of the place then i'm for it. Its not gonna keep the drugs out, well except the prescription ones obviously, from what i hear. But maybe they can catch one or two people a night and maybe get their dumbasses arrested or kicked out. I dont go there very often so its not a big deal to me. I think the Black Cat's line for getting in is as slow as they get. Two concerts ago i was in line for 45 minutes!!!!!!!!!!! 9:30 Clubs has been getting slower also, not 45 minutes but i remember the dayz i'd get there and walk right in.

[markie]

Yep, the best advice is to vote with your feet. If you dont like the place, dont go there...... I still have not been there.

[dtqjr]

I appreciate how the 9:30 Club uses discretion when it comes to the intensity of the security when getting into a show.  For some bands they pat people down and for others, they just let you walk through.  For example, GWAR vs. Sigur Ros.  It seems that some bands generate crowds with more seedy characters than others.

[RonniStar]

During Last Year's Elliot's Non-Denominational Christmas Show, the security started to crackdown on flashing in the club. This was 21+ event. They didn't do that during the Sev shows that took place there in 2000 & 2002. So, drugs and underage drinking isn't the only problem their trying to keep down.

[mankie]

Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
  Anyways i almost got in a fight cause her ex was there.  

Why? Did he find out he was her ex when she showed up with you?

[andyrichter]

yea, the pat downs and strip searches are a little much.  i brought my contact lens drops and one of the security guys actually wanted me to put some drops into my eyes before he let me enter.....i wonder what he thought i was smuggling in that.   but if it does keep weapons and such out of the shows, then i'm for it.  i remember hearing a few years ago at the superbowl of hardcore that some guy got stabbed during the bad brains set.

[jakez468]

the solution is don't go to shitty concerts like yellowcard and SoCo. I found the security to be reasonable, nothing like 930's, but it wasn't that big an issue. it's god's punishment for liking shitty bands i guess

[Ikarus]

from my experience, nation's problem began with the fox news report that shutdown buzz a few years ago.  before the publicity, you kinda waltzed in to an enormous drug den and had 18 year old kids off their faces on a combination of ecstacy, meth and horse tranquilizers and such.  these daze, you get the full body cavity search and the people inside are still fucked up...i'm pretty sure the drug dealers pay off security, and the front door procedures are to keep he cops and media at bay.
 
 i'd also imagine that saturday's velvet nation is just as bad. drugs make that place operate...you think anybody is hitting the bar on the weekends?

[jkeisenh]

Wow, if you were carrying acid in an eyedropper, wouldn't making you take them to prove something...??  Odd.  I don't get it.
 
 

Originally posted by andyrichter:
   i brought my contact lens drops and one of the security guys actually wanted me to put some drops into my eyes before he let me enter.....i wonder what he thought i was smuggling in that.

[Guiny]

Originally posted by Bollocks:
   

Originally posted by Rob_Gee_a.k.a _Guiny:
  Anyways i almost got in a fight cause her ex was there.  

Why? Did he find out he was her ex when she showed up with you? [/b]

I think he shoulda got the hint after he calls her 80 times a day and she doesn't pick up.