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Re: Greendale
« Reply #15 on: June 26, 2003, 04:09:00 pm »
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    For a rock legend to do all new unreleased material and then tack on a few of the classics at the end strikes me as reeking of self-indulgent asshole-ism.
i don't know all the details, but the release date of the greendale cd/dvd has become later and later.  
 
 what difference is it anyways whether or not the material is has been released or not... those jimmy buffet fans showing up at a neil young concert wouldn't have bought the new record anyways and wouldn't have appreciated it released or unreleased.  the neil young fans sure seem to appreciate the show.
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Re: Greendale
« Reply #16 on: June 26, 2003, 04:10:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
 \My guess, Neil gets more money this way.
 
 1. It's his bill, hence most of the profits.
 
 2. More seats resulting in many more dollars.
 
 I've heard he's a major control freak and that his farm is almost cult-like with his followers; I mean his fans; living, working and worshipping there. [/QB]
well the same could be said for Radiohead, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, etc etc etc
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Re: Greendale
« Reply #17 on: June 26, 2003, 04:19:00 pm »
Perhaps I'm prejudging the show without having gone to it yet, but as a longtime Neil Young fan...I'd be happy to hear 30-40 mins of his new stuff mixed into a 2-2.5 hour show. I would welcome it with open arms. Sure, he's had high and low points in his career, but he managed to make great albums in the 70's and 90's, and even one in the 80's....So it's not that his new music would be irrelevant.
 
    But the fact remains that he has a long storied career and I want a balance of materials from various parts.

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« Reply #18 on: June 26, 2003, 04:24:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kosmo:
   
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Originally posted by Jaguär:
 \My guess, Neil gets more money this way.
 
 1. It's his bill, hence most of the profits.
 
 2. More seats resulting in many more dollars.
 
 I've heard he's a major control freak and that his farm is almost cult-like with his followers; I mean his fans; living, working and worshipping there. [/b]
well the same could be said for Radiohead, Bob Dylan, Bruce Springsteen, etc etc etc [/QB]
Yes but they aren't presenting a play of sorts, which is why, I'm assuming, Rhett asked his original question. I wasn't there so don't know for sure but it does sound like something that may have been more suited to a smaller setting.
 
 Depends on the production. Some shows can shrink a venue and others can't.

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Re: Greendale
« Reply #19 on: June 26, 2003, 04:25:00 pm »
i know what your saying... and had the new material sucked it would have been a crap show.  many reviewers are calling this his best material in years.  drive by trucker patterson hood is quoted as saying it's his favorite neil young record since "freedom".   in all honest the dramatization of the songs does detracts from the experience, especially if one can't see the entire stage.
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Re: Greendale
« Reply #20 on: June 26, 2003, 04:30:00 pm »
How did Patterson Hood get an advance copy, and where can I get one so I'll know the songs before I see the show?

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Re: Greendale
« Reply #21 on: June 26, 2003, 04:32:00 pm »
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  How did Patterson Hood get an advance copy, and where can I get one so I'll know the songs before I see the show?
his comments were based on seeing the show in atlanta... i'm sure he has other connections  :)
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« Reply #22 on: June 26, 2003, 04:40:00 pm »
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  Or bill it for what it is, not as a Neil Young concert.
It's been pretty well publicized, do a quick goggle search.
 
 I doubt you'll be disappointed once you see it.  The music was good and had an old school Crazy Horse feel to it.  The story and theatrics just upped everything a notch.

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Re: Greendale
« Reply #23 on: June 26, 2003, 04:43:00 pm »
Neil is not presenting Greendale in the traditional music theater method where individual actors have speaking roles and it designed to presented in a concert venue. It's like the Crazy Horse tours of yore with the huge amps and the roadies in their robes and their light bulb eyes.   Neil serves as the "plays" narrator providing background information between each song. As Crazy Horse and Neil is performing each song the actors become a live musical video taking on role of the different characters in the song.  Neil could have chosen just to do the Greendale song cycle without the actors and sets.   He just likes to keep people guessing...
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Re: Greendale
« Reply #24 on: June 26, 2003, 04:52:00 pm »
Didn't Styx do something like this with Mr. Roboto?  If so, Neil Young should reconsider his performance.
 
 
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  Neil is not presenting Greendale in the traditional music theater method where individual actors have speaking roles and it designed to presented in a concert venue. It's like the Crazy Horse tours of yore with the huge amps and the roadies in their robes and their light bulb eyes.   Neil serves as the "plays" narrator providing background information between each song. As Crazy Horse and Neil is performing each song the actors become a live musical video taking on role of the different characters in the song.  Neil could have chosen just to do the Greendale song cycle without the actors and sets.   He just likes to keep people guessing...

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« Reply #25 on: June 26, 2003, 04:54:00 pm »
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 Didn't Styx do something like this with Mr. Roboto?  If so, Neil Young should reconsider his performance.
 
 
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 Acting out a song...sounds like a music video to me.

Re: Greendale
« Reply #26 on: June 26, 2003, 04:54:00 pm »
Amen, brother, that shit is just corny.
 
 
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  Didn't Styx do something like this with Mr. Roboto?  If so, Neil Young should reconsider his performance.
 
   
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  Neil is not presenting Greendale in the traditional music theater method where individual actors have speaking roles and it designed to presented in a concert venue. It's like the Crazy Horse tours of yore with the huge amps and the roadies in their robes and their light bulb eyes.   Neil serves as the "plays" narrator providing background information between each song. As Crazy Horse and Neil is performing each song the actors become a live musical video taking on role of the different characters in the song.  Neil could have chosen just to do the Greendale song cycle without the actors and sets.   He just likes to keep people guessing...
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« Reply #27 on: June 26, 2003, 04:54:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  Neil is not presenting Greendale in the traditional music theater method where individual actors have speaking roles and it designed to presented in a concert venue. It's like the Crazy Horse tours of yore with the huge amps and the roadies in their robes and their light bulb eyes.   Neil serves as the "plays" narrator providing background information between each song. As Crazy Horse and Neil is performing each song the actors become a live musical video taking on role of the different characters in the song.  Neil could have chosen just to do the Greendale song cycle without the actors and sets.   He just likes to keep people guessing...
Oh, God! It sounds like Neil Young and the Polyphonic Spree show.    :roll:

Re: Greendale
« Reply #28 on: June 26, 2003, 05:10:00 pm »
I will bring my binoculars, as we will be on the lawn. With a 50% chance of rain, I now know to skip the show if it rains.

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Re: Greendale
« Reply #29 on: June 26, 2003, 05:32:00 pm »
go for the music and ignore whats going on behind the band... but besure to close your eyes during the closing number "bring the rain".  there are some female backing vocalists which spice up the mix too...
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