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[mjnova]

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  OK, thats what i thought you meant, but not sure why Maryland is involved, i thought they were being quiet about the whole thing. Basically, from a sports standpoint, if SYU, Miami and Va Tech were in the ACC, then so much for teams like Clemson and Virginia and NC State EVER winning a football title, ever again.  Also, in basketball, as if its not bad enough that the 2 aforementioned teams have to play Duke and Wake Forest and Maryland, now they have to play Miami and the national champs!? I am sure Duke doesnt want to play Syracuse twice a year either.  
    I dont see Va Tech looking bad in this thing, but the ACC does, and so does Virginia, definitely.  Sometimes I think they should make college sports like the pros,  East and West and sort it out from there, instead of 20 conferences i cant keep track of.  
    So did they scrap the whole thing yet?

Va Tech has agreed, no surpise.  The reason that they look bad is that they flip flopped, and agreed immediately, too fast actually.  They look really really really really desperate.
 Miami will probably accept in the next day or two if they do.  I'd say it's 70/30 that they accept.
 
 Maryland is complicit, and I go there, hence I think they're setting a bad example.
 
 Mankie, conferences have certain revenue sharing aspects.  When FSU goes to a bowl, the whole ACC benefits, I dunno if it's same in the Big East, but having more good teams tends to pull the level of competition up.  Maryland and NC State still can't beat FSU on a regular basis, but they're slowly developing into football powerhouses, which was no doubt hastened by FSU's entrace into the league a decade or so ago.
 
 The thing I don't like is how this might affect bball.  If, for example UMD only plays Duke once a season, that would have a really adverse effect on the rivalry that's developing, cause teams would have to wait a year to extract revenge.

[thirsty moore]

Isn't that guy Beckham guilty of chasing the money as well?
 
 

Originally posted by mankie:
 It's all about the $$$$$$ ! Who would've thought that in America!!      

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by vansmack:
 

If you think this is for the players, you're sadly mistaken.
 
 They are secondary benfeficiaries, my friend. [/b]

What i meant about the players, was when Mankie asked why teams couldnt just get better if they were in a better league, and i was saying that its not that easy. You have to recruit good players, and notoriously good schools can do that better, its like that in every sport, every conference.
 
   I understand that the players have nothing to do with this realignment thing.

[mjnova]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  The money then gets shared by each program and each program would then get better.  So yes, you're right to an extent and the ACC has decided that money is the way to do that.  Otherwise, the will continue to be in the shadow of the Big 12, SEC, Big 10 and PAC 10 whose football teams all make a ton of money.

There was a big article in, I think the NYTimes magazine saying that football teams actually tend to lose a lot of money.  Funny, huh?

[mankie]

Originally posted by thirsty moore:
 [QB]
 
 Isn't that guy Beckham guilty of chasing the money as well?
 
 

 Not the same thing. And anyway, no he didn't chase the money. He didn't want to leave United, his boss wanted him gone. (the twat!) and the only other team he could've gone to that wasn't a step down was Real Madrid.
 
 And I wasn't knocking the fact it's about the money, just making the statement.

[keithstg]

Originally posted by mjnova:
 

Maryland is complicit, and I go there, hence I think they're setting a bad example.
 [/b]

No offense, but when has Maryland set a GOOD example so far as sports (or fan / student behavior) are concerned?

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by mjnova:
 

Va Tech has agreed, no surpise.  The reason that they look bad is that they flip flopped, and agreed immediately, too fast actually.  They look really really really really desperate.[/b]

If I was Virginia Tech, I would agree quickly too.  Look at what conference they are in? they are in the Atlantic 10!!! Temple, Rhode Island, LaSalle, St. Josephs?  all big football powerhouses!! haha   VT has been carrying the weight of the entire A-10 football program, i am SURE they are sick of it.
    This is a dream come true to VT.

[mankie]

Originally posted by mjnova:
 

 There was a big article in, I think the NYTimes magazine saying that football teams actually tend to lose a lot of money.  Funny, huh?
 
 [/b]

How the HELL can they lose money when they don't pay the players, or give them royalties from all the clothing they sell? Sounds like a load of horse-crap if you ask me...maybe that lying reporter for the NY Times wrote the article.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by mankie:
   

Originally posted by mjnova:
 

 There was a big article in, I think the NYTimes magazine saying that football teams actually tend to lose a lot of money.  Funny, huh?
 
 [/b]

How the HELL can they lose money when they don't pay the players, or give them royalties from all the clothing they sell? Sounds like a load of horse-crap if you ask me...maybe that lying reporter for the NY Times wrote the article. [/b]

I do not think that collegiate athletes can sell clothing or do any endorsements.  just for corrections sake.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  If I was Virginia Tech, I would agree quickly too.  Look at what conference they are in? they are in the Atlantic 10!!! Temple, Rhode Island, LaSalle, St. Josephs?  all big football powerhouses!! haha   VT has been carrying the weight of the entire A-10 football program, i am SURE they are sick of it.
    This is a dream come true to VT.

Uh, they're in the Big East conference.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
  If I was Virginia Tech, I would agree quickly too.  Look at what conference they are in? they are in the Atlantic 10!!! Temple, Rhode Island, LaSalle, St. Josephs?  all big football powerhouses!! haha   VT has been carrying the weight of the entire A-10 football program, i am SURE they are sick of it.
    This is a dream come true to VT.

Uh, they're in the Big East conference. [/b]

sorry
 
  i am a basketball fan.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by mankie:
  How the HELL can they lose money when they don't pay the players, or give them royalties from all the clothing they sell? Sounds like a load of horse-crap if you ask me...maybe that lying reporter for the NY Times wrote the article.

Among many other things Title IX, which requires the revenue of mens sports to be shared equally with womens sports, which don't earn as much revenue at most schools.

[mankie]

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by mankie:
   

Originally posted by mjnova:
 

 There was a big article in, I think the NYTimes magazine saying that football teams actually tend to lose a lot of money.  Funny, huh?
 
 [/b]

How the HELL can they lose money when they don't pay the players, or give them royalties from all the clothing they sell? Sounds like a load of horse-crap if you ask me...maybe that lying reporter for the NY Times wrote the article. [/b]

I do not think that collegiate athletes can sell clothing or do any endorsements.  just for corrections sake. [/b]

I see an awful lot of collegiate sports clothing...someone is making a lorry load of money from it, and I know it's not the players.

[sonickteam2]

DAMNIT!!! haha, wasnt Va Tech in the Atlantic 10 at one point in time?  please tell me i am not a complete ninny.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by mankie:
 I see an awful lot of collegiate sports clothing...someone is making a lorry load of money from it, and I know it's not the players.

well, i suppose its the university, but they probably use that to pay for the athletes every expense. which, if you saw the dorms the athletes stay in sometimes, WOOO DADDY!