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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #30 on: October 30, 2006, 12:24:00 pm »
New NME cover stars The Horrors are playing there this Sunday. I've heard some of their stuff and it's not bad -- definitely good enough to see on stage. I'm looking forward to that, and to seeing this place. It's only about 8 blocks from where I live, so I'm happy about that.
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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #31 on: October 30, 2006, 07:58:00 pm »
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  These H St NE venues sound cool, but there's one thing I don't get. Does DC gov't want more people driving drunk and over longer distances?  Otherwise why not allow rock venues in the side of town where rock venue patrons live?  Heck if I'm gonna take a taxi that far
I think it's rather presumptuous to assume that rock patrons only live in Northwest.
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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #32 on: October 30, 2006, 08:02:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Mixed Veg:
  These H St NE venues sound cool, but there's one thing I don't get. Does DC gov't want more people driving drunk and over longer distances?  Otherwise why not allow rock venues in the side of town where rock venue patrons live?  Heck if I'm gonna take a taxi that far
I think it's rather presumptuous to assume that rock patrons only live in Northwest. [/b]
Thank you Doom because I was about to lay into this guy. I guess he thinks it's nothing but prairies and deserts out there.   :roll:
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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #33 on: October 30, 2006, 09:13:00 pm »
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  Thank you Doom because I was about to lay into this guy. I guess he thinks it's nothing but prairies and deserts out there.    :)
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« Reply #34 on: October 31, 2006, 10:50:00 am »
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I think it's rather presumptuous to assume that rock patrons only live in Northwest.
I didn't say ONLY; but the demographic facts are clear. My point is valid that this encourages people to travel further to nightlife, and that isn't consistent with trying to discourage drunk driving

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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #35 on: October 31, 2006, 07:46:00 pm »
I still don't think it's much of a point -- I would guess that a majority, or at least a significant minority, of the people who come to 9:30 club, drive.   and R&R Hotel is probably closer to people coming in from the burbs via New York Avenue NE or Shirley Highway than many NW clubs.
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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #36 on: November 01, 2006, 10:35:00 am »
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  I still don't think it's much of a point -- I would guess that a majority, or at least a significant minority, of the people who come to 9:30 club, drive.   and R&R Hotel is probably closer to people coming in from the burbs via New York Avenue NE or Shirley Highway than many NW clubs.
I live seven or eight blocks away from the 'hotel.
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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #37 on: November 01, 2006, 10:54:00 am »
and i live further away than most of you and attend shows all the time.
 a venue that is a few minutes further is not going to stop me!!
 
 what IS going to stop me, though, is that i have no idea about the area it's in yet.
 
 
 and i can't believe i almost missed the first Grace/Doom encounter.

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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #38 on: November 01, 2006, 07:21:00 pm »
Youbebetty, what would you consider having an idea about an area?
 
 From my one visit, I can tell you it's no less sketchy than 815 V... probably slightly less, because it's on a main drag.  I parked only a block away, on the same street.
 
 As for a Grace/Doom encounter... I wouldn't want to miss such a thing, but I didn't realize others felt that way too.   :)
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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #39 on: November 06, 2006, 12:25:00 pm »
So I went last night, to see the Horrors, and the venue itself is very nice. Very interestingly adorned, with cool side-rooms in various themes. It'll look a lot cooler once it's been around awhile, since everything looks a little too new. It has the feeling of someone who had a couple grand to spend, and just went out and bought a bunch of weird shit and paint.
 
 But in terms of musical experience, here's where the 9:30 is such a rock star. The Hotel's website originally said three bands, doors opening at 8:00, music at 9:00. Day of show, the two openers had disappeared from the site, replaced by one different opener. Get to the show at 9:00, doors aren't open and won't for another hour, and no opener. Horrors come on at 11:35 and play for 25 minutes, and show's over (there may have been someone else coming after, but I split). So I waited 2 1/2 hours for less than half an hour of music. Good DJing though, so that helped.
 
 If you've attended more a couple shows at the 9:30, you can deduce almost to the minute what the timing for any given show will be, whether it's two bands on a Friday night, or three bands on a Wednesday, or whatever. Plus, the web site always has accurate timing on it too. That is such a benefit. (Not to mention Eddie's willingness to give heads-up replies to questions on how a show is selling).
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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #40 on: November 06, 2006, 12:33:00 pm »
I don't really think it makes much sense to compare the 9:30 Club and Rock n Roll Hotel.   The 930 Club is a venue -- you go there, see the bands, and clear out.   The Hotel is a real club.  The bands are an important part, but not the whole, of the experience.  
 
 People don't go to clubs to wait.  They hang out, chat with their friends, have a few drinks, play billiards.   Try that next time, you'll enjoy it more.
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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #41 on: November 06, 2006, 03:40:00 pm »
How exactly is advertising doors at 8:00, then being closed until 10:00 part of  "the experience"?

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« Reply #42 on: November 06, 2006, 04:42:00 pm »
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  How exactly is advertising doors at 8:00, then being closed until 10:00 part of  "the experience"?
The difference between 9:30 and the RnR is that even thoguh "doors" don't open, you can still go hang out upstairs, much like the Red Room at the Cat. No one is shut out.
 
 I think the 9:30 Club does handle the timing of bands better than RnR. They have also been around decades longer, and have had the time to establish a great staff. Sure RnR has had its bumps in the road; They lost their top sound guy right after the venue opened, some of the bands that play there have been slightly less than professional... ok, shit happens. Talk to me again in a couple of years and I think you'll see a well run club that has a lot of shows we all go to see. I have had the pleasure of being on both sides of the door at the RnR, and can say they are a very professional group of folks who are trying to do things right.

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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #43 on: November 06, 2006, 04:48:00 pm »
I saw the Album Leaf on Friday. First time there. It was nice to see an actual point of sales window, unlike the Black Cat where you just have confused door staff.
 
 The sound was balanced and the timing of the bands was only 15-20 minutes off.
 
 Once the smoking ban goes into effect, this place should be awesome. The low ceiling made my throat hurt. And yes, with time this place will only get better.

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Re: Rock and Roll Hotel
« Reply #44 on: November 06, 2006, 05:03:00 pm »
Yeah, I didn't mean to complain too much, I realize they just opened, and Doom's distinction between club and venue makes sense. That said, everyone I asked (the ID checker, the ticket seller, the bartender upstairs) had no idea A) who was playing that night, B) what time doors were supposed to open, and C) when bands would be on-stage. So whether they're a club, venue, arena or speak-easy, they probably need to do a little more communicating among staff.
 
 More than anything, it made me appreciate the 9:30's set-up and organization. I've got the 9:30 Formula down pat, along with the Black Cat Formula.
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