are we less of a night owl city than we once were?

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Bags:
   This is due to the fact that many of the companies we work with are based in Houston, Calgary, etc.  -- 1 to 2 hours behind us.

Calgary? are you in the cattle business, lol.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I have found Chipotle and Po'Belly's and a few other fast service places to be tolerable in a pinch. Plus, working near Union Station, I have the luxary of a good fast food court  
 
 

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Well if you're getting an hour for lunch, that's 8-8.5 hours of work, which is reasonable. If you were in DC (I realize you're not), you could easily grab some faast food and make it to and 8PM show.
 

havent you talked of how you hate fast food on this board before?  others do too    [/b]

[Bags]

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by Bags:
 
 Since Jan 1, 2004, I've been to ten shows specifically to see the opener (and left at some point during the headliner four of those times).

i dont think all clubs are really marketing for the people who devote most of thier time to shows, feel the need to see every band, and live right down the damn street.  maybe some place small like DC9, but if 930 did that, they'd never have any sell outs.
 
   people like you, are going to come either way      
 
 others (and thats most people) have to be choosy. [/b]

I fully admit I'm going anyway....I was just answering that there are folks who go to see opening bands.  Also, he noted he'd only gone to see an opening band maybe once or twice in 150-200 shows.  I was just noting that his 'ratio' may be particularly small.
 
 I do NOT feel the need to see every band.  I probably miss about 70-80% of openers.  Just can't devote *that* much time (I already devote a lot of time....).  I'm not quite sure what you were getting at Sonick...I'm fine with going to a show just to see an opener because the band wasn't quite big enough to sell enough tickets on its own...  I don't need every band I want to see play their own show (that's Rhett).  Man, way too many shows for me to see as it is!    

[keithstg]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Well if you're getting an hour for lunch, that's 8-8.5 hours of work, which is reasonable. If you were in DC (I realize you're not), you could easily grab some faast food and make it to and 8PM show.
 
 
   

Originally posted by Bags:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Isn't it sad that we live in a country where the standards are being at work from 10.5-11 hours a day? Fucking employers have people by the balls.

I generally work until 6:30 - 7:00, but I get in at 9:30 a.m.  This is due to the fact that many of the companies we work with are based in Houston, Calgary, etc.  -- 1 to 2 hours behind us.  It actually makes a lot of sense. [/b]

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Who takes lunch? For an hour? Damn.
 
 I don't think it's sad that people choose to work 10.5-11 hours a day. I would find it sad if some had to do so just to get by. I look at the amount of hours worked as a choice - one could work the "average" 8 hour day, if one chose.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Bags:
 
 I do NOT feel the need to see every band.  I probably miss about 70-80% of openers.  Just can't devote *that* much time (I already devote a lot of time....).  I'm not quite sure what you were getting at Sonick...

some people i know are on a mystical conquest to see every band they've ever heard of live.
 
    you strike me as one of those people. just an observation.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Do they really CHOOSE to work 11 hours a day? If they only worked 8 hours a day, thus only getting about 78% of the same productivity, would they be allowed to keep their jobs?
 
 
 

Originally posted by keithstg:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Well if you're getting an hour for lunch, that's 8-8.5 hours of work, which is reasonable. If you were in DC (I realize you're not), you could easily grab some faast food and make it to and 8PM show.
 
 
   

Originally posted by Bags:
     

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Isn't it sad that we live in a country where the standards are being at work from 10.5-11 hours a day? Fucking employers have people by the balls.

I generally work until 6:30 - 7:00, but I get in at 9:30 a.m.  This is due to the fact that many of the companies we work with are based in Houston, Calgary, etc.  -- 1 to 2 hours behind us.  It actually makes a lot of sense. [/b]

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Who takes lunch? For an hour? Damn.
 
 I don't think it's sad that people choose to work 10.5-11 hours a day. I would find it sad if some had to do so just to get by. I look at the amount of hours worked as a choice - one could work the "average" 8 hour day, if one chose. [/b]

[eltee]

In this area, in the evening, a "pinch" is 20-30 min. to get food at one of the places you mention. So add that amount of time to Sonick's schedule above. Add 5-8 min. if you have someone with you.
 Not all of us have or want the luxury of a food court close-by. If we all did that before every show, we'd be the obese people you think we are.
 Sure, you can eat at the club or another venue  (if food is offered). Often, by the time you actually get inside the venue, and if a show is sold out, it's difficult to manage and not miss even more of the show. Buying food at a venue is an option, but not the most healthy and tacks on the $.
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I have found Chipotle and Po'Belly's and a few other fast service places to be tolerable in a pinch. Plus, working near Union Station, I have the luxary of a good fast food court      
 
   

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
     

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Well if you're getting an hour for lunch, that's 8-8.5 hours of work, which is reasonable. If you were in DC (I realize you're not), you could easily grab some faast food and make it to and 8PM show.
 

havent you talked of how you hate fast food on this board before?  others do too        [/b]

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[kosmo vinyl]

as someone pointed out on the tommy keene forum, there were some "mature" fans that were in attendence that may have been there for tommy.  seeing as he only comes around maybe once a year his fanbase isn't going to pass up a chance on seeing him.
 
 my criteria for seeing shows these often depends on the lineup... it either got to be an artist i really want to see or the pairing of two artists i kinda want to see.  i.e. to drag me outta of the house to see a band like muse they would have to be playing with some i really wanted to see.  muse by themselves not much appeal

[ggw]

McChipotleâ?¢ Nutritional info:
 
 Chipotle's Chicken Burrito (with black beans, rice, cheese, and salsa) weighs in at nearly 1,000 calories and 12 grams of saturated fat.
 
 Chipotle's Vegetarian Burrito (with black beans, rice, cheese, guacamole, and salsa) weighs over a pound and provides 1,120 calories and three-quarters of a day's worth of saturated fat (14 grams).
 
 Chipotle's Barbacoa Burrito (with shredded beef, pinto beans, rice, cheese, guacamole, sour cream, and salsa) hits nearly 1,300 calories and three-quarters of a day's worth of saturated fat. That's the equivalent of a Quarter Pounder, a large order of fries, and a large Coke.
 
 http://www.cspinet.org/new/200309301.html
 
 

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 ...Chipotle...

[Bags]

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
 some people i know are on a mystical conquest to see every band they've ever heard of live.
 
 you strike me as one of those people. just an observation.

I can see that assumption.  I don't think it's the case, but I will say that, because it's pretty easy for me to get to shows, I'll go see someone I've heard/read about just to check them out.  I go to about half of the shows I make a note of when they get announced...  I've definitely gone to more since I've been posting/reading here, as I've heard of so many more bands.  For instance, I never would have checked out The National, The Delgados, Snow Patrol, British Sea Power, but for the board...

[Random Citizen]

Originally posted by Bags:
  I can see that assumption.  I don't think it's the case, but I will say that, because it's pretty easy for me to get to shows, I'll go see someone I've heard/read about just to check them out.  

Um, you do realize those sentences contradict themselves, right?  

[eltee]

What Kosmo said.
 

Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  as someone pointed out on the tommy keene forum, there were some "mature" fans that were in attendence that may have been there for tommy.  seeing as he only comes around maybe once a year his fanbase isn't going to pass up a chance on seeing him.

[keithstg]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Do they really CHOOSE to work 11 hours a day? If they only worked 8 hours a day, thus only getting about 78% of the same productivity, would they be allowed to keep their jobs?
   

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[/QB]

I would submit that most people could choose to work 8 hours a day and KEEP their jobs, but not necessarily improve them and further a career. That's why I mentioned choice. Working 10-11 hour days comes with drawbacks and benefits, as does working an 8 hour day.

[Bags]

Originally posted by Random Citizen:
   

Originally posted by Bags:
  I can see that assumption.  I don't think it's the case, but I will say that, because it's pretty easy for me to get to shows, I'll go see someone I've heard/read about just to check them out.  

Um, you do realize those sentences contradict themselves, right?       [/b]

Nope, I don't see that.  I'll check out bands, but it's not a mission and if I miss a show, no biggie.  Sonick's assumption was that I was set on seeing every band I know.  I'm not fanatical about it by any means...(but I understood his assumption 'cuz I do see a lot...)

[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

(Homer voice) mmmm... Chipotle...