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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #165 on: May 07, 2007, 02:42:00 pm »
(Sorry, accidentally hit quote instead of edit.)

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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #166 on: May 07, 2007, 02:58:00 pm »
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  The person who posted the torrent asked that it not be shared in compressed format. Do you still want it if I upload it as flac?
yes, i'd be most happy with flac (in fact prefer it as such).
 
 fyi, if you hit "quote" instead of "edit", just hit your browser's Back button - you don't have to include a "sorry my bad" reply  :)
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« Reply #167 on: May 07, 2007, 03:12:00 pm »
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  fyi, if you hit "quote" instead of "edit", just hit your browser's Back button - you don't have to include a "sorry my bad" reply   :)  
I didn't notice I had done it until after I'd posted and was returned to the thread.
 
 It's uploading now... slowly.

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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #168 on: May 07, 2007, 04:38:00 pm »
no audio recording was allowed at the show.  any postings including links to audio files will be deleted.

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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #169 on: May 07, 2007, 04:53:00 pm »
I wasn't exactly sure what the policy was that night. There were signs that said no audio/video recording or photos, but DAR didn't even check bags. They didn't care about cameras or... anything. Weird.

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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #170 on: May 07, 2007, 04:57:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kmb187:
  I wasn't exactly sure what the policy was that night. There were signs that said no audio/video recording or photos, but DAR didn't even check bags. They didn't care about cameras or... anything. Weird.
i was present at the security meeting with the tour rep and the supervisor of the DAR staff.  no audio recording was allowed.  it's unfortunate that the policy was not enforced.  
 
 for future reference, the great majority of bands do not allow "professional" cameras (long or removable lenses, high end digital), audio, or video recording.  if you are ever unsure of the policy, ask the door staff.

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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #171 on: May 07, 2007, 06:22:00 pm »
This might be a stupid question, but I've always wondered this...why allow cameras at all if you can't bring in one with a removable lens? What's the difference if a photo is taken with a fancy point and shoot digital camera vs. one with a removable lens? Sure, the quality on a disposable camera or cell phone won't be great, but you can get some pretty decent shots on a digital camera without a removable lens. My guess is that it allows the band to control which press is snapping pics since they are more fussy about the equipment they use.

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« Reply #172 on: May 07, 2007, 06:40:00 pm »
i guess it's the promoters/organizers trying to reach a balance between letting attendees take some sort of a souvenir vs. making sure no one makes money selling the photos and/or recreates the experience too closely (thus discouraging fans from buying tickets to future shows)
 
 why non-removable lenses? it's an arbitrary cut-off that's easy to make.  short of barring all cameras, the only other way would be to mandate maximum specs (no cameras with an F-stop below 4.0, no optical zoom above 3x, no ISO emulation above 800, etc etc) - near impossible to enforce since you'd need to inspect each camera.  
 
 while you can get some damn fine pix from a point-n-shoot digicam, they're not print quality for the most part.  the vast majority of their CDCs (the electronic plate that turns incoming light into 1's and 0's) aren't sensitive enough so contrast will always be off.  making the on-the-spot adjustments that a pro is used to making can't be done quickly with a snappy-cam.  the flash is too weak.  and reaction time on consumer digicams is horrendous - press the button, picture is taken a second or more later.  pro equipment = reaction time in the milliseconds.
 
 the lines between pro and non-pro equipment are rapidly being blurred and eventually there will be no difference - it will all come down to user's ability and placement (pro photogs get pit passes, can go on-stage or on the wings, etc) - at which point we might not be allowed to bring cameras at all (or maybe just disposable ones - who knows).
 
 once upon a time i used a several thousand dollar professional camera for work.  after using that machine, i haven't been able to bring myself to buying a consumer cam... just too much of a downgrade.  the slow reaction time and crappy zooms are what really get me.
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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #173 on: May 07, 2007, 07:04:00 pm »
well since all religion is a fraud, this show did indeed qualify as a religious experience.
 
 i guess if you like your shows with all of the over-the-top qualities of a broadway musical instead of, y'know, memorable songs, it was close to perfect. yes, "tunnels" and "wake up" and "keep the car running" are good, maybe close to great songs, but the rest are pale imitations of those. and that just leaves the spectacle, and sure, there's energy, but that shit couldn't be more contrived. just because there are lots of people jumping around banging on and blowing into things doesn't make it cathartic or important. it's just even more calculated. and i know that the drums weren't live on at least two songs and i wouldn't be surprised if there were more backing tracks used in addition to that.
 
 that crazy televangelist woman on the video screens before they came on couldn't have been a more apt intro...

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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #174 on: May 07, 2007, 09:00:00 pm »
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  The encore was supposed to be "(Antichrist Television Blues)" and then "Intervention". But instead they changed it to "Intervention" and then "Wake Up". That was definitely not planned out, and we were indeed very lucky!
Ahh man, I love Antichrist Television Blues. It's probably my favorite from Neon Bible. Wake Up is still a good way to go and made a fantastic finish to an amazing event.

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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #175 on: May 08, 2007, 05:46:00 am »
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  This might be a stupid question, but I've always wondered this...
sweetcell was pretty spot on.  bascially, you need to draw a line somewhere.  for most bands that line is with removable lenses.  everyone knows that there are cameras with fixed lenses that can take amazing pictures and clunky old slrs with removable lenses that take crappy ones, but it's just not worth the time, effort, and knowledge required to examine every camera.  so, an arbitrary decision is made.    
 
 some artists request no photography at all, which is getting harder and harder to enforce as digital cameras get smaller and smaller.  enforcing no video is becoming difficult as well since most digital cameras also have video capabilities and large memory cards are getting cheaper.
 
 a "no pro" policy allows the fans to snap some shots for personal use and theoretically keeps the high end stuff out.  everybody wins.

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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #176 on: May 08, 2007, 09:29:00 am »
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  some artists request no photography at all, which is getting harder and harder to enforce as digital cameras get smaller and smaller.  
I would say virtually impossible, unless you plan on taking away everyone's cellphones at the door.

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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #177 on: May 08, 2007, 02:40:00 pm »
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  I would say virtually impossible, unless you plan on taking away everyone's cellphones at the door.
it has been requested. it was not enforced.  that's getting a bit ridiculous.  we just told everyone coming in that we would take them if they used them.

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Re: The Arcade Fire - Neon Bible
« Reply #178 on: May 10, 2007, 02:35:00 pm »
No one has mentioned this yet, but I absolutely love watching Sarah Neufeld when she plays the violin and dances at the same time...and she's very cute too! *sigh*
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« Reply #179 on: May 10, 2007, 03:03:00 pm »
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  No one has mentioned this yet, but I absolutely love watching Sarah Neufeld when she plays the violin and dances at the same time...and she's very cute too! *sigh*
I thought it was funny how almost all of the band are dressed in 19th century field worker outfits, except for Sarah, who dresses like an Atlantic City hooker. C'mon, halter top, short-shorts and heels? Love that.
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