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hitman

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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
« Reply #15 on: September 22, 2004, 12:01:00 pm »
[/qb][/QUOTE]why do you block out letters for all terms but those that describe lowly caucasians? [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 Well, I guess because I'm caucasian, and not Jewish, I can use those terms.  Just like blacks can call each other "nig****" but others can't.

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« Reply #16 on: September 22, 2004, 12:07:00 pm »
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 Just like blacks can call each other "nig****" but others can't. [/QB]
Thats because they say it with an "a" at the end and not "ers".

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« Reply #17 on: September 22, 2004, 12:07:00 pm »
fair enough...it's funny, though, that the derisive terms for caucasians do somehow seem less harmful...maybe to me because I'm not from the South or from poorer beginnings (though hardly not rich)

Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
« Reply #18 on: September 22, 2004, 12:08:00 pm »
Aren't you the least bit concerned that people might be offended by such terms?
 
 
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why do you block out letters for all terms but those that describe lowly caucasians? [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 Well, I guess because I'm caucasian, and not Jewish, I can use those terms.  Just like blacks can call each other "nig****" but others can't. [/QB][/QUOTE]

hitman

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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
« Reply #19 on: September 22, 2004, 12:08:00 pm »
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I think the tribes should be pissed on this one, and want a change of name for the Redskins, Chiefs, Braves, Indians, and any other one I can't think of right now.
I don't think it's quite that simple. The team names Chiefs and Braves don't seem very derogatory or demeaning to me. Just the opposite in fact. I think those team names honor Native Americans. But Redskins? That is definitely pretty derogatory in my book. Indians as a team name is borderline, but their mascot when last I saw it sure looked like a demeaning and distasteful caricature. [/b]
If you read literature from different tribes, they are split on the feelings about Chiefs and Braves.  Some have pretty deep spiritual beliefs about those terms being used outside of the tribe.  But it isn't honoring when fans do the "Tomahawk" at the Braves games.

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« Reply #20 on: September 22, 2004, 12:11:00 pm »
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 The white supremacists would be in an uproar (as well as Republicans I'm sure) if a team was called the "Whities, Crackers, or Honkeys."
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Those would be hilarious. Heck if the the Boston Red Sox changed their name to Boston Whities or the Boston Honkeys, I might even become a fan. The name alone might actually help bring them a championship cause lord knows, Carl Everett, Pedro Martinez and Manny Ramiraz failed on their initial promise of bringing a championship their first year. Schilling still has a chance though. Can't wait to see which new player promises it next year.

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« Reply #21 on: September 22, 2004, 01:25:00 pm »
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 If you read literature from different tribes, they are split on the feelings about Chiefs and Braves.  Some have pretty deep spiritual beliefs about those terms being used outside of the tribe.  But it isn't honoring when fans do the "Tomahawk" at the Braves games.
well, Christians are offended when people use the name of Christ in vain, which was become totally acceptable in our culture...and I think in Islam you're not supposed to say the "name" of god or something...or maybe even in orthodox Judaism...not sure of the details...the point is, the predominant culture's mores tend to prevail...I think it's up to people to be considerate, but not really to legislate or institutionalize consideration...

hitman

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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
« Reply #22 on: September 22, 2004, 02:04:00 pm »
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 [qb] Aren't you the least bit concerned that people might be offended by such terms?
 
   
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 No, I'm not.  I don't use these terms personally.  I'm using them as an example.  And why should I be worried about it when someone else mentioned Native garb being worn yesterday by fat people who got it from "cherokeenation.com", or those that say Redksins.  People on this board say whore, slut, and many other terms, but don't give a shit if a woman takes offense.
 
 Comes to mind that there are other derogatory terms for teams.  Could you see a WNBA team...how about the Seattle Sluts or the Hackensack Whores?

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« Reply #23 on: September 22, 2004, 02:17:00 pm »
http://www.nativeamericandanceoutfits.bizhosting.com/
 
 
 Sorry, I had the name of the website wrong.
 
 When black people call each other "niggaz", seldom is it meant as an insult.
 
 
 When white people call other white people "honkey" or "cracker" (Do people actually use these terms anymore?), it's almost always meant as a term of derision, and usually it's a rich I'm better than you liberal using the terms toward working class southerners.
 
 So the "well black people call each other niggas" argument really doesn't correlate.
 
 
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 [qb] Aren't you the least bit concerned that people might be offended by such terms?
 
   
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 No, I'm not.  I don't use these terms personally.  I'm using them as an example.  And why should I be worried about it when someone else mentioned Native garb being worn yesterday by fat people who got it from "cherokeenation.com", or those that say Redksins.  People on this board say whore, slut, and many other terms, but don't give a shit if a woman takes offense.
 
 Comes to mind that there are other derogatory terms for teams.  Could you see a WNBA team...how about the Seattle Sluts or the Hackensack Whores? [/b]

Arthwys

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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
« Reply #24 on: September 22, 2004, 05:19:00 pm »
First of all, how the heck can a name like Redskins be seen as offensive when on many offical documents European Americans are referred to as White?  And as for the argument that some Native Americans get offended by terms like Chief and Brave are used outside tribal context...Those words are  English terms, not the actual native title used for their respective positions in native american society.  And just cuz i hate PC that much, i'll throw in that I think that this whole row over native americans as mascots is the dumbest thing ever.  The whole point of a mascot is to find an object, person, or animal that you would want you team to either emulate or be associated with.  Why? Because that mascot is respected, has honor and prestige.  If i were native american i'd find it pretty flattering that sports teams all over the country would like to be seen to be as tough and honorable and imposing as the warriors of my ancestors were known to be.  
 
 On a side note, did anyone else read about how the Guvernator just vetoed some bill about banning names like those we've been discussing in this thread?  Go Arnold, even if your official reasoning behind it is a bit off.
Emrys

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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
« Reply #25 on: September 22, 2004, 05:22:00 pm »
Is "girlie-man" offensive?

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« Reply #26 on: September 22, 2004, 05:32:00 pm »
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  Is "girlie-man" offensive?
no, just really silly and played out

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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
« Reply #27 on: September 22, 2004, 05:36:00 pm »
:D   A touch offensive yes.  Heck, i think it was meant to be.  We could get into the whole sexist issue of it, but essentially calling democrats "girlie-men" is just another way of saying "man-up", or "get a spine" .  Some political mudslinging is always good stuff if only to add some humour to the otherwise meaningless political drivel that is the stumping season.
Emrys

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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
« Reply #28 on: September 22, 2004, 09:29:00 pm »
why do jews have so many holidays?
 
   so they can stay home and not spend their money.
 
 my uncle(in law) came down because hes an indian.  my dad went today because he was invited.  my friends dad designed part of the museum...i'm happy we massacred the indians, we should commit genocide against many other groups like all emo kids or sk8rs...
 
 "the national museum of the nigger darky."

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Re: Kerry is unfit, homosexuality is a sin
« Reply #29 on: September 22, 2004, 09:31:00 pm »
they can but a south/central america museum on the corner by the indian museum.  it will be a table with stupid little trinkets and run by a man named juan who mainly is there to sell crack and other assorted drugs to our nations youth.
 
 (i just wanted to say trinket and bash mexicans)