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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #15 on: October 04, 2005, 11:56:00 am »
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  you also get a nice editorial from Sony on how you should contact Apple and tell to fix it at their end.
Right, because restrictive copy protection schemes are the responsibility of third-party periphreal makers to work into their technology.   :roll:

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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #16 on: October 04, 2005, 12:03:00 pm »
but doesn't everyone own a mp3 players that only works with Microsoft Media Player and it's DRM capabilities?
 
 and isn't everyone that buys a CD these days automatically a criminal who will share it?
 
 and why do i buy these CD and not just download the  songs off the internet where some kind soul has already done the legwork for me...
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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #17 on: October 04, 2005, 12:06:00 pm »
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  There's just not a whole lot there, and their live show was sub-standard.
i think Rhett has a similar review of Broken Social Scenes live show....

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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #18 on: October 04, 2005, 12:09:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  DualDisc don't work in slot loading CD players, And I wonder if they work in CD magazines or if the DVD side gets scratched.  And it the music side os going to work in any CD player I plop it into.
My Foo dualdisc plays everywhere I've tried it, including the slot disc player in my car and the magazine CD player in my Dad's car.  Just an FYI...I've also never had trouble with the copy protection on my Mac, but to be fair I haven't paid attention to what record companies I've been dealing with.

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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #19 on: October 04, 2005, 12:14:00 pm »
i am not real into ff, and i like bss, but think they are still overrated. listened to the new one a few times, there is some good stuff on there. and please, can we never talk about the broken social scene/stars show at the black cat ever again?
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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #20 on: October 04, 2005, 12:18:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Bags:
  My Foo dualdisc plays everywhere I've tried it, including the slot disc player in my car
Mine doesn't.

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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #21 on: October 04, 2005, 12:31:00 pm »
the dualdisc may play in a slot loader but there's a good chance the dvd side will get scratched as it's not as sturdy as a cd...
 
 and the music side from i recall isn't manufactured to the same standard as a compact disc which means there could be compatibility problems...
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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #22 on: October 04, 2005, 01:04:00 pm »
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and please, can we never talk about the broken social scene/stars show at the black cat ever again?  
why?

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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #23 on: October 04, 2005, 01:29:00 pm »
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 why?
It's referenced all the time. Earlier this year a longtime hated user on this board said that BSS sucked live at the Black Cat show, and proceeded to critique their preformance. Another poster - ggw? - then referenced the original 2 year old thread about the show where said member revealed he left before BSS ever came on. The story is, at this point, something of 930.com fora lore.

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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #24 on: October 04, 2005, 04:04:00 pm »
FYI..just bought the FF DualDisc.  No copy protection to speak of.  Just popped it in my Windows box here at work and it's working fine.
 
 Heck, I don't even see the FBI logo we're so used to.
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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #25 on: October 04, 2005, 04:54:00 pm »
I just picked up the new BSS cd. I had downloaded the leaked version a few weeks back and there doesn't seem to be any difference between the two versions.
 
 If you have the leaked version, please do the right thing and buy the CD. It's worth it anyways for the bizarre liner notes. I want to be on whatever meds/drugs Kevin Drew is using.
 
 I didn't see the BSS/Stars show at the Black Cat, but I did see this pairing at the Hillside Festival and it was a great experience. The shows *are* rather chaotic what with the large number of people involved but the music always sounds great. Stars have the day off on the day when BSS is scheduled to play the 930. I'm hoping they'll join BSS. Most of Stars were on the new BSS cd so it would be a perfect fit.

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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #26 on: October 04, 2005, 04:57:00 pm »
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  I just picked up the new BSS cd. I had downloaded the leaked version a few weeks back and there doesn't seem to be any difference between the two versions.
 
Does the CD have the final track? Then it's different then the (original) leak.

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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #27 on: October 04, 2005, 05:12:00 pm »
Feist was also on the BSS CD, the new one and Your Forgot It, so I imagine Stars won't be showing up.  Feist will cover the female vocals at the 9:30.  Stars have got a busy schedule with Death Cab.

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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #28 on: October 05, 2005, 09:19:00 am »
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  FYI..just bought the FF DualDisc.  No copy protection to speak of.  Just popped it in my Windows box here at work and it's working fine.
 
 Heck, I don't even see the FBI logo we're so used to.
Good to hear... It's doesn't require special software to be loaded to listen to it?  Which is what at least the Dead 60's CD required.  Haven't yet try either the Coral or BMRC disks on my work Windoze box...
 
 Can you easily rip MP3s directly from the Music Side of the DualDisc?  This could be moot as I popped the Coral in the Mac at home last night and the copy protection didn't prevent me from seeing the music tracks and was able to rip an MP3.  I may take the plunge and get the DualDisk...
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Re: Franz Ferdinand v. Broken Social Scene
« Reply #29 on: October 05, 2005, 09:24:00 am »
Franz Ferdinand Happily Mines the Past
 
 By J. Freedom du Lac
 Washington Post Staff Writer
 Wednesday, October 5, 2005; C01
 
 Franz Ferdinand's eponymous debut CD made it okay for hipsters with expertly disheveled hair to dance again. But the Scottish four-piece has altered its groove theory some since then.
 
 The band's sophomore album, "You Could Have It So Much Better," still features plenty of "music that girls can dance to," as per the mission statement the Franzie boys have often shared with the press. The first single, "Do You Want To," for instance, is a euphoric blend of angular guitars, sharp hooks, sweetly harmonized choruses and a hyper-infectious beat that bounces atop a fat bass line -- pretty much the same delightful disco-punk formula that made Franz Ferdinand one of the pop-music breakthroughs of 2004.
 
 "Well That Was Easy," among other new tracks, also mines familiar-for-Franz territory, cranking up the BPMs and adding some crafty tempo changes but otherwise using the same, basic danceable post-punk template.
 
 But "You Could Have It So Much Better" isn't just "Franz Ferdinand II."
 
 The art-school band's debut suggested the Talking Heads, Blur and the Pet Shop Boys comparing their acidic notes on romance and then writing a smart, wry guilty pleasure of an album about their findings. "You Could Have It So Much Better," though, shows Franz Ferdinand expanding its worldview, both sonically and lyrically (leaving aside the caustic title track).
 
 The evolution is evident straight away. The album opens with "The Fallen," a sophisticated, hard-driving standout on which lead singer Alex Kapranos riffs on politics and spirituality ("The fallen are the virtuous among us / Walk among us / Oh, if you judge us / We're all damned," he sings) before guitarist Nick McCarthy spikes the proceedings with some swirling psychedelic flourishes.
 
 Of course, the very next track -- the aforementioned "Do You Want To" -- suggests that some of the relationship songs on the new album are the same as they ever were. Both in its construction and conceit, "Do You Want To" comes across as the sequel to "Take Me Out," the Franz single that became a colossal MTV and rock-radio hit last year and made way for a new wave of backward-looking bands like the Killers and Interpol. But still.
 
 While it's every bit as derivative as its predecessor, the new album grows the list of influences and spends much more time mining the work of the Beatles. The piano ballad "Eleanor Put Your Boots On," for one, might be mistaken for a Paul McCartney/"Eleanor Rigby" homage if not for the fact that Kapranos is dating an Eleanor himself. (Namely, the Fiery Furnaces frontwoman, Eleanor Friedberger.) The album's penultimate track, the romantic ballad "Fade Together," is as unabashedly Beatlesque a new song as you'll hear anymore.
 
 At least Franz Ferdinand, which also owes a considerable debt to the likes of David Bowie, Roxy Music and even Gang of Four and Dick Dale, apes some of the best. If that's not worth dancing about -- and to -- then what is?
 
 http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2005/10/04/AR2005100401769.html