senators part 3

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Rodrigo Lopez is fifth in the league in ERA, and tied for 8th in wins (as many as ANY Yankees starter, and would have more if he hadn't started the year in the bullpen) Two excellent seasons, one sucky season (which he was worn down because of playing too much winter ball).
 
 A bit more than a mediocre third starter in my book.
 
 
 

Originally posted by keithstg:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Miguel Tejada, Jerry Hairston, Melvin Mora, David Newhan, Rodrigo Lopez, Javy Lopez, BJ Ryan...all infinitely better and more watchable than anybody the Expos can offer. Plus, with Segui, Palmeiro, Cordova, Daal, Groom, and Gibbons all coming off the payroll, the O's are going to be loaded with $$ to restock the team.
 
   

Originally posted by keithstg:
     

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Woohoo! We get a team with fatass Tony Batista as the star.
 
 I will remain an O's fan, and only go to Expos games if the opposing team/pitcher is of interest.

As opposed to what - a team with fatasses Rafael and Sidney Ponson, and a farm system rife with prospects having arm surgery?
 That, and it's in Baltimore. No thanks. I'm done rewarding Angelos for his blatant disregard for quality baseball, and will be getting a full ticket plan... as a former O's season ticket holder, this is the best news ever. [/b]

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I give you Tejada and Mora. However Vidro and Livan Hernandez are fun to watch. Javy Lopez is a 36 year old catcher - how long is that going to last. Rodrigo Lopez is a mediocre number three starter... We can have this argument again like we did in the pre-season if you want to, and I'll be correct again.
 
 Barring a major farm system overhall (which may be underway - the O's director of scouting was fired this week) and significant free agent aquisitions, the O's will struggle to .500 in the AL East. They need a 3 -5 year plan in place. [/b]

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

He said there would be a rivalry with the Pirates as well. Yes, I can see Pirates fans coming in droves to to Baltimore for baseball games. Way more than Yankees and Red Sox fans do.
 
 Yeah, right. Mazilli is a retard.
 
 
 

Originally posted by hitman:
  did anyone see the quote by Mazilli in the Sun from this past weekend (I think)?  He stated that if DC gets a team, that he feels the O's should go to the National League, similar to the Brewers.  This way there would be an automatic rivalry with DC, and probably Philly, and there probably wouldn't be as much of an economic hit to the O's.  I'm paraphrasing here, but that is the basics.  What do people think about that?

[keithstg]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Rodrigo Lopez is fifth in the league in ERA, and tied for 8th in wins (as many as ANY Yankees starter, and would have more if he hadn't started the year in the bullpen) Two excellent seasons, one sucky season (which he was worn down because of playing too much winter ball).
 
 A bit more than a mediocre third starter in my book.
   

Originally posted by keithstg:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Miguel Tejada, Jerry Hairston, Melvin Mora, David Newhan, Rodrigo Lopez, Javy Lopez, BJ Ryan...all infinitely better and more watchable than anybody the Expos can offer. Plus, with Segui, Palmeiro, Cordova, Daal, Groom, and Gibbons all coming off the payroll, the O's are going to be loaded with $$ to restock the team.
 
     

Originally posted by keithstg:
     

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Woohoo! We get a team with fatass Tony Batista as the star.
 
 I will remain an O's fan, and only go to Expos games if the opposing team/pitcher is of interest.

As opposed to what - a team with fatasses Rafael and Sidney Ponson, and a farm system rife with prospects having arm surgery?
 That, and it's in Baltimore. No thanks. I'm done rewarding Angelos for his blatant disregard for quality baseball, and will be getting a full ticket plan... as a former O's season ticket holder, this is the best news ever. [/b]

[/b]

I give you Tejada and Mora. However Vidro and Livan Hernandez are fun to watch. Javy Lopez is a 36 year old catcher - how long is that going to last. Rodrigo Lopez is a mediocre number three starter... We can have this argument again like we did in the pre-season if you want to, and I'll be correct again.
 
 Barring a major farm system overhall (which may be underway - the O's director of scouting was fired this week) and significant free agent aquisitions, the O's will struggle to .500 in the AL East. They need a 3 -5 year plan in place. [/b]

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And why did he start the year in the bullpen? He actually started the season in the rotation and got shelled, so he went to the pen. Talking about games he "would" have won is useless. I'll refer you to baseball reference's comparison to other players, based on statistics and age:
 Josh Fogg (985)
 Bill Beckmann (979)
 Osvaldo Fernandez (976)
 Jason Dickson (976)
 Jack Urban (976)
 Dave Johnson (974)
 Johnny Stuart (974)
 Bob Chesnes (973)
 Roy Sherid (973)
 Mike Grace (972)
 
 Was anyone on that list more than a mediocre third starter?

[evilsanta]

baseball and radiohead are boring

[ratioci nation]

and neither are as predictable as power pop   :p

[kosmo vinyl]

hey nothing wrong with verse chorus verse and a huge ass hook  

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

The five starters on opening day were: Ponson, Ainsworth, Dubose, Riley, and Bedard.
 
 Rodrigo didn't start a game until May 20, which was his 13th appearance of the season, and the O's 37th game of the season.
 
 Which means if he had been starting all along, it would have been his 8th start of the season.
 
 Overall, he has 10 less starts than Ponson this year, with three more wins (2 in relief).
 
 

Originally posted by keithstg:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Rodrigo Lopez is fifth in the league in ERA, and tied for 8th in wins (as many as ANY Yankees starter, and would have more if he hadn't started the year in the bullpen) Two excellent seasons, one sucky season (which he was worn down because of playing too much winter ball).
 
 A bit more than a mediocre third starter in my book.
   

Originally posted by keithstg:
     

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Miguel Tejada, Jerry Hairston, Melvin Mora, David Newhan, Rodrigo Lopez, Javy Lopez, BJ Ryan...all infinitely better and more watchable than anybody the Expos can offer. Plus, with Segui, Palmeiro, Cordova, Daal, Groom, and Gibbons all coming off the payroll, the O's are going to be loaded with $$ to restock the team.
 
     

Originally posted by keithstg:
       

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Woohoo! We get a team with fatass Tony Batista as the star.
 
 I will remain an O's fan, and only go to Expos games if the opposing team/pitcher is of interest.

As opposed to what - a team with fatasses Rafael and Sidney Ponson, and a farm system rife with prospects having arm surgery?
 That, and it's in Baltimore. No thanks. I'm done rewarding Angelos for his blatant disregard for quality baseball, and will be getting a full ticket plan... as a former O's season ticket holder, this is the best news ever. [/b]

[/b]

I give you Tejada and Mora. However Vidro and Livan Hernandez are fun to watch. Javy Lopez is a 36 year old catcher - how long is that going to last. Rodrigo Lopez is a mediocre number three starter... We can have this argument again like we did in the pre-season if you want to, and I'll be correct again.
 
 Barring a major farm system overhall (which may be underway - the O's director of scouting was fired this week) and significant free agent aquisitions, the O's will struggle to .500 in the AL East. They need a 3 -5 year plan in place. [/b]

[/b]

And why did he start the year in the bullpen? He actually started the season in the rotation and got shelled, so he went to the pen. Talking about games he "would" have won is useless. I'll refer you to baseball reference's comparison to other players, based on statistics and age:
 Josh Fogg (985)
 Bill Beckmann (979)
 Osvaldo Fernandez (976)
 Jason Dickson (976)
 Jack Urban (976)
 Dave Johnson (974)
 Johnny Stuart (974)
 Bob Chesnes (973)
 Roy Sherid (973)
 Mike Grace (972)
 
 Was anyone on that list more than a mediocre third starter? [/b]

[godsshoeshine]

2 hours in the car<ride the metro, see the pirates

[vansmack]

And MLB should force the Rangers to give up rights to the Senators as its next big move.  It's the right thing to do.
 
 Congratulations to you guys.  Everybody should have baseball in their backyard.  It's part of rules for "Cities I could live in."  I really hated driving to Balmer to go to a game.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Then you should have lived in Baltimore.  
 
 

Originally posted by vansmack:
  And MLB should force the Rangers to give up rights to the Senators as its next big move.  It's the right thing to do.
 
 Congratulations to you guys.  Everybody should have baseball in their backyard.  It's part of rules for "Cities I could live in."  I really hated driving to Balmer to go to a game.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Then you should have lived in Baltimore.    
 
 

Fortunately for me, having a baseball team isn't the highest rule on my list.....

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   Everybody should have baseball in their backyard.  It's part of rules for "Cities I could live in."  I really hated driving to Balmer to go to a game.

speaking of which, i just scored 2 box seats for Fridays nights Orioles/Red Sox game for $15!
   
   go me!

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

We'll be at the first Saturday game. Aren't you glad you'll miss us?
 
 

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by vansmack:
   Everybody should have baseball in their backyard.  It's part of rules for "Cities I could live in."  I really hated driving to Balmer to go to a game.

speaking of which, i just scored 2 box seats for Fridays nights Orioles/Red Sox game for $15!
   
   go me! [/b]

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  We'll be at the first Saturday game. Aren't you glad you'll miss us?
 

not particularly.  i wanted to go Sat. but i am going to Hersheypark
 
 you wanna borrow my Red Sox hat?

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

The last time I wore a Red Sox hat to a baseball game was in Yankee Stadium, 1978ish. Yankees clinched the pennant, Ed Figueroa became the first Puerto Rican to win 20 games, and some fucker knocked my Red Sox hat off my head and into the crowd.
 
   As a pissed off 11 year old Red Sox fan, I turned around, ready to deck whatever fucking Yankee fan had done that. Turned out to be one of my friends.
 
 
 

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  We'll be at the first Saturday game. Aren't you glad you'll miss us?
 

not particularly.  i wanted to go Sat. but i am going to Hersheypark
 
 you wanna borrow my Red Sox hat? [/b]