More Americans killed by illegal aliens than Iraq war, s

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Dudek Chakra:
  ]That's 3 years old.  
 
 

If they're using any actual numbers at all, I'd be shocked if they were from 2006.  There is a small possiblilty that they're using 2005 crime numbers, but I doubt that as well.
 
 Even if they are using 2006 numbers, it would seem that the proposed increase from 2000-2004 numbers seems quite high to be believable.

Table 2.3
 Murder Victims
 by Race and Sex, 2004
 
   Sex  
 Race Total Male Female Unknown
 White 6,929 5,031 1,896 2
 Black 6,632 5,562 1,067 3
 Other  365 269 95 1
 Unknown  195 128 41 26
 Total 14,121 10,990 3,099 32
 
 
 Acorrding to the FBI numbers, hispanics, whether legal or not, don't commit ANY murder!

Something doesn't add up my friend.

Originally posted by vansmack:
  Hmmm....
 
 ~16,000 murders in the US every year.
 
 50.0 percent are committed by blacks
 47.6 percent are committed by whites
 2.4 percent were committed by other races
 
 90% of all illegal aliens in the US are from Latin America, a group that apparently only kills a portion of 2.4% of all murders in the US.
 
 FBI Crime Stats
 
 And this study claims that 13% are committed by illegal aliens?
 
 Something doesn't add up my friend.

Table 2.3
 Murder Victims
 by Race and Sex, 2004
 
 Sex
 Race Total Male Female Unknown
 White 6,929 5,031 1,896 2
 Black 6,632 5,562 1,067 3
 Other 365 269 95 1
 Unknown 195 128 41 26
 Total 14,121 10,990 3,099 32
 
 
 Acorrding to the FBI numbers you provided vansmack, hispanics, whether legal or not, don't seem to commit ANY murders at all!
 
 Something doesn't add up my friend.
 
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 I wanted this all in one poast, but some genius  trimmed the edit feature...go figure!?!

[RustyOrgan]

Illegal aliens? Time to call Fox Mulder!!

[Vas Deferens]

There is nothing sound about this article but ya know ya could use this article as a way to instill fear in the minds of Americans who are still unsure about illegal immigration.
 
 An intelligent person wouldn't trust an "organization" like Family Security Matters.
 Do ya know that they comprise of FIVE right-wing moms??!
 
 (you should also know that their office is on L Street...)
 
 yawn

[Frank Gallagher]

I used to be an illegal alien...then I became a legal alien, now I'm just a boring old 'murrkan'
 
 It was more fun being an illegal alien, I felt all extra-terrestrial and stuff.
 
 I have to say though, I didn't feel like killing anyone more as an illegal than I do as a doodle.

How many murders do hispanics commit per year?  If the FBI doesn't know, then who does?
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• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">White 6,929</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">Black 6,632</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">Other 365</font></li>
• <font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda">Unknown 195</font></li>

<font size="2" face="Arial, Veranda"> Source: FBI  
 
 But I'd bet hispanics commit more than the 550  combined nationwide total for other/unknown.

Originally posted by joey joe:
  There is nothing sound about this article but ya know ya could use this article as a way to instill fear in the minds of Americans who are still unsure about illegal immigration.
 
 An intelligent person wouldn't trust an "organization" like Family Security Matters.
 Do ya know that they comprise of FIVE right-wing moms??!
 
 (you should also know that their office is on L Street...)
 
 yawn

Joey, I deal in numbers and facts.  You deal in ad hominem arguments.  Please go away.

[sonickteam2]

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[Vas Deferens]

the truth hurts you have to resort to distored truths and numbers  

[valario]

i think more people fuck wit illegal alliens then iraqs'. (howeva u spell dat shyt)

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by joey joe:
  the truth hurts you have to resort to distored truths and numbers      

look, if your sole purpose for disparaging the report is because you think the organization putting out the source is wrong, no matter what the report says, that's ad hominen (attacking the source as being untrustworthy, instead of attacking the report).  a much more constructive criticism of the report would be to read it, provide "facts" and "numbers" of your own to dispute it.  
 
 just because you disagree with the source does not mean they are "wrong," and because you agree with another source does not means they're "right."

[alex]

Simple-minded loaded headlines RULE.
 
 Yes, the facts are there; however this is a pure, loaded propaganda piece.
 
 By this logic, why don't they put one out that says "Six Times More Americans Killed by Americans Than Iraq War" or "Three Times More Americans Killed by Blacks/Whites Than Iraq War?"

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Because there are a lot more white and black Americans relative to the number of illegal aliens, thus the headline wouldn't be nearly as revelatory?
 
 

Originally posted by Alex:
  Simple-minded loaded headlines RULE.
 
 Yes, the facts are there; however this is a pure, loaded propaganda piece.
 
 By this logic, why don't they put one out that says "Six Times More Americans Killed by Americans Than Iraq War" or "Three Times More Americans Killed by Blacks/Whites Than Iraq War?"