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Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« on: July 13, 2006, 09:21:00 am »
Poast 'em.
 
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 Pearl Jam

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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #1 on: July 13, 2006, 10:02:00 am »
Cloud Cult
 
 But I hope you're being sarcastic, Wolf. Bands that show commitment to the environment (and other worthy causes) are a-ok in my book.

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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #2 on: July 13, 2006, 10:10:00 am »
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 But I hope you're being sarcastic, Wolf. Bands that show commitment to the environment (and other worthy causes) are a-ok in my book.
Does it mean that you have swallowed the enviro bullshit hook, line and sinker?  Those bands don't care about the environment, they care about their image.
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #3 on: July 13, 2006, 10:45:00 am »
what i don't understand is why "conservatives" swallow the corporate ostrich-head-in-the-sand position on climate change hook-line-and-sinker ... i mean, it makes total sense for corporations to look out for their own interests and hire scientists to spew bullshit (although it's increasingly becoming clear that leading green innovation IS good for the bottom line -- and not just PR)
 
 but why do conservatives blindly follow the corporations?  is it aversion to the regulatory powers proposed to help the problem?  simple contrarion-ism?  i think reasonable people can debate the solutions (regulation v. free market solutions), but the real scientific debate over the problem of climate change is over
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #4 on: July 13, 2006, 10:49:00 am »
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 the real scientific debate over the problem of climate change is over
Global warming is REAL, because Hoya believes in it.  Game over.

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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #5 on: July 13, 2006, 10:50:00 am »
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
 the real scientific debate over the problem of climate change is over
Global warming is REAL, because Hoya believes in it.  Game over. [/b]
*golf clap*
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #6 on: July 13, 2006, 10:57:00 am »
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Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
  Poast 'em.
 
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 Pearl Jam
Actually i'm really glad they are doing something along these lines, as it was annoying to see all of the idling semi's outside their venues
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #7 on: July 13, 2006, 11:01:00 am »
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Originally posted by Wolf N.Eagleburger:
 Does it mean that you have swallowed the enviro bullshit hook, line and sinker?  Those bands don't care about the environment, they care about their image.
Why is it so hard for you to believe that bands can have a genuine interest in being environmentally responsible?
 
 At least in Cloud Cult's case, the lead singer - Craig Minowa - has a long history of environmental activism. A history that predates his music. It has nothing to do with image; it has everything to do with acting in a way consistent with his convictions.

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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #8 on: July 13, 2006, 11:06:00 am »
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 Why is it so hard for you to believe that bands can have a genuine interest in being environmentally responsible?
he doesn't want to debate you, he just wants to get your panties in a bunch ... the wierdest part is that he probably actually believes the crap he spews
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #9 on: July 13, 2006, 11:19:00 am »
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Originally posted by jude376:
 Why is it so hard for you to believe that bands can have a genuine interest in being environmentally responsible?
he doesn't want to debate you, he just wants to get your panties in a bunch ... the wierdest part is that he probably actually believes the crap he spews [/b]
I know there are boardies that get off on rilin' people up just for the fun of it... But it's hard not to respond when it's something you feel strongly about. I appreciate the support, Hoya   :)

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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #10 on: July 13, 2006, 11:24:00 am »
Bad Religion

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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #11 on: July 13, 2006, 11:34:00 am »
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i agree,  this is a great Bill Moyers article
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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #12 on: July 13, 2006, 03:09:00 pm »
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Originally posted by HoyaSaxa08:
  what i don't understand is why "conservatives" swallow the corporate position on climate change
 but why do conservatives blindly follow the corporations?
Why are you trying to paint me as a conservative who loves big corporations?  Nothing could be further from the truth.  
 
 You really DO believe passionately in an awful lot of hooey for someone purporting himself as educated.  "Global warming" has not been conclusively proven scientifically.  It's not like the "theory of evolution" which has reached the status of scientific fact over the years.  Global warming is still not a proven fact.  It's a theory.  And not all climate scientists subscribe to it.
 
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 If you really want to help reduce the production of global hydrocarbons why don't you start by purchasing less CDs?
 
 I suppose now you're gonna get out your usual bag of tricks and start calling me a stormfront skinhead..?

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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #13 on: July 13, 2006, 03:11:00 pm »
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Originally posted by jude376:
 Why is it so hard for you to believe that bands can have a genuine interest in being environmentally responsible?
he doesn't want to debate you, he just wants to get your panties in a bunch ... the wierdest part is that he probably actually believes the crap he spews [/b]
Go fuck yourself, asshole.

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Re: Artists who care a little bit too much about Carbon Diox
« Reply #14 on: July 13, 2006, 03:14:00 pm »
Come on guys. Plug it up. Don't get Kosmo rushing in here to lock up this thread. Go off into your respective corners, count to ten....eleven, and then wander off into another thread. We have way too much fucking warring going on on this dear planet as it is. Let's try to at least pretend we are all on the same side. Please?
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