Cyndi Lauper

[twangirl]

Since when is having a recent hit the benchmark for artistic ability? Seems to me I've seen plenty of discussions on this very forum arguing the very opposite. Anyway, I'm with Chills, why be judgemental? And why be insulting?

[Joymonster]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> I doubt both of those comments have any reasoned basis.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, it was reason enough for the show to sell out.<P>

[markie]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joymonster:<BR><B> Well, it was reason enough for the show to sell out.<P></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>I think the show sold out because of nostalgia, rather than some obscure EP that might have shifted a few copies in Japan.

[markie]

Originally posted by twangirl:<BR><B>Since when is having a recent hit the benchmark for artistic ability?</B><P><BR>It never was and never will be. But when mainstream acts leave the mainstream, would you agree that there is co-commitant corelation between there recorded material becoming rubbish?<P>I can think of Erasure of Suzanne Vega or Lloyd Cole as examples. Perhaps Nick Lowe being a could counter example.<P><BR> <B>Seems to me I've seen plenty of discussions on this very forum arguing the very opposite.</B><P>the difference is was she really any good in the first place. Would I really want to see Britney Spears in twnety years time, or now for that matter?<P><B> Anyway, I'm with Chills, why be judgemental? </B><P>Chills said let the 80's stay in the 80's? Amen to that!<P><BR><B>And why be insulting?</B><P>Because I can? Remember the moniker on the front page? " Make trouble"?

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

When was Lloyd Cole EVER popular in the mainstream? I think his work has been consistently good throughout his career. Though the one time I saw him live, he was pretty boring.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B>

Originally posted by twangirl:<BR>Since when is having a recent hit the benchmark for artistic ability?</B><P><BR>It never was and never will be. But when mainstream acts leave the mainstream, would you agree that there is co-commitant corelation between there recorded material becoming rubbish?<P>I can think of Erasure of Suzanne Vega or Lloyd Cole as examples. Perhaps Nick Lowe being a could counter example.<P><BR> <B>Seems to me I've seen plenty of discussions on this very forum arguing the very opposite.</B><P>the difference is was she really any good in the first place. Would I really want to see Britney Spears in twnety years time, or now for that matter?<P><B> Anyway, I'm with Chills, why be judgemental? </B><P>Chills said let the 80's stay in the 80's? Amen to that!<P><BR><B>And why be insulting?</B><P>Because I can? Remember the moniker on the front page? " Make trouble"?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>

[markie]

I dont know about the US.....<P>But in the UK there were a triumverate of hipster records every student worthy of the name owned:<P>The Smiths, The Smiths<P>Prefab Sprout, Faron young<P>Llloyd Cole, Rattlesnakes<P>I think that album shifted millions. He had a kid in the early 90's and then released the bad album with morning has broken on it.<P>I saw him 10 years ago and he was great then. But then he has fantastic songs.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I never even heard of Lloyd Cole until his second album, Easy Pieces.<P>In the U.K., Easy Pieces was a Top Ten hit. But although the album saw something like a proper release in the U.S. and the Commotions toured extensively, no American breakthrough materialized.

[ggw]

I saw Lloyd Cole many years ago and found him a rather drab entertainer, although he does write some very good songs.

[markie]

Easy pices was never a favourite of mine. Rattlesnakes is much better and I even prefer Mainstream.<P>Have you never heard rattlesnakes?

[Joymonster]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B> I think the show sold out because of nostalgia, rather than some obscure EP that might have shifted a few copies in Japan. </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>The show sold out because she toured with Cher last year and was profiled on one of those "Behind The Music" specials a few months ago. I think she is also in a new Dr. Pepper commercial. The EP reached number 27 on Billboards Heatseekers chart, which is a lot better than some of her musical peers from 84' are doing right now.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Oooh...the Heatseeker chart, now there's a true measure of album sales...<P>Rhett Miller's album debuted at #1 on the Heatseeker chart. Sounds impressive until you realize that that translated to #126 on the overall chart.<P>I'm surprised Ms. Lauper was even on the Heatseeker chart. I thought that chart was only for artists who had never cracked the top 100 in their career.<P> <BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Joymonster:<BR><B> The show sold out because she toured with Cher last year and was profiled on one of those "Behind The Music" specials a few months ago. I think she is also in a new Dr. Pepper commercial. The EP reached number 27 on Billboards Heatseekers chart, which is a lot better than some of her musical peers from 84' are doing right now.   </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>

[Joymonster]

<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Rhett Miller:<BR><B>Oooh...the Heatseeker chart, now there's a true measure of album sales...<P>Rhett Miller's album debuted at #1 on the Heatseeker chart. Sounds impressive until you realize that that translated to #126 on the overall chart.<P>I'm surprised Ms. Lauper was even on the Heatseeker chart. I thought that chart was only for artists who had never cracked the top 100 in their career.<P> </B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Hey, I didn't make up the chart. <P>Moby's "18" also debuted at number 1 on that very same survey. Whether she ranked at number 27 or if it translated to 2007, it made the list. <P>

[bungle bud]

markie i went to the show because i have been a fan of cyndis from 83 and have all her records, so i went and was bored to tears, easily the worse event i have been to and i include the ideal home show in my list of events, bad sound,she stoped songs if they didnt sound right and told a hundred of the most boring stories ever, there was a large gay following and a most people were 30+ some in there 40s, if you can take the pain of having a dick shoved up your arse you can take the pain of a cyndi lauper concert, i couldnt, i left when she started the 100 monkeys story,i should never have gone.

[markie]

thanks for the review Bunle Bud.<P>Your experience bares comparison to soft cell. Well at least Soft Cell didnt have the annoying stories.<P>Perhaps next time you will trust me?<P>Why not come for a beer on Saturday?

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I remember Bungle Bud saying he didn't want to meet Markie for a beer because that would be "too gay" to come into the city to meet another guy for a beer. Now BB comes into the city and hags our with hundreds of gay men at a club. Bungle, you've come a long way.