Ah, the Garden State...never a dull moment

[pepper*sans*salt]

A cool Dad? That's an oxymoron isn't it? Kinda like jumbo shrimp.

[eltee]

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   

Originally posted by vansmack:
  referred to his first marriage to a Canadian woman and to his two daughters, including a toddler born in December 2001. But he said that at some point, "one has to look deeply into the mirror of one's soul" and come to grips with the "unique truth" there.
 
 "My truth is that I am a gay American," McGreevey said.
 
 

poor girls.  they have a gay american dad. not really the coolest of role models, so to speak. [/b]

Everything Bags said. That's silly, sonick.

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
   

Originally posted by sonickteam2:
 poor girls.  they have a gay american dad. not really the coolest of role models, so to speak.

You kidding?  I'll bet he's WAY cooler than 50% of the dads I was surrounded by at Cheap Trick last week.  His downfall is that he's a politician...and that he fell for the cultural stigmatism to homosexuality and did that whole marriage thing because he thought he had to.  Hopefully that's going away... [/b]

ok, before i finish my thought here, preface by saying that i don't care his preference, that's not my business, he can do whatever he wants to. . .however:
 
 i don't think that being gay is the actual problem. . .but, i'm sure his resignation had nothing to do with him being a corrupt politician that was facing several campaign finance laws and state ethicial violations investigations.  as well as indictments already issued to his main election and finance advisers, and several big money fundraisers.  i also won't mention the sexual harassment allegations.  oh, and by staying in office until november 15, he avoids the state from having a special election to fill the office, as it is, the state senate president steps in and becomes governor for the rest of the term, and staying democratic.
 
 there's a big difference between having a gay governor and a gay governor that's corrupt.

[thirsty moore]

I still think you all should see Sleepaway Camp.

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by SalParadise:
  if only he'd been a republican.

actually, there have been several republicans that have come out. . .jim kolbe from az had a wife and kids (i think), came out and was still re-elected to congress (despite the objections of the stupid religious right). . .michael huffington, ex-husband of ariana huffington, course, that shouldn't be a surpise. . .and there was a congressman from minnesota. . .he came out, and was defeated in the primary, again by those stupid religious conservatives, and republican's promptly lost that seat.

[eltee]

Originally posted by Bagalicious Tangster:
   

Originally posted by nkotbie:
  Back to music, how much money do you think the Shins paid for such overwhelming placement in the fil?

They didn't!  I saw adorable Zach on Charlie Rose, and he heard the song while writing/developing the movie and always planned/hoped to have it serve as the center of the film.  He felt it was exactly the right mood for his story.  Cool, huh? [/b]

Yeah, I think he helps select some of the music for Scrubs. He also did the photography for Joshua Radin's cd.

[thirsty moore]

Log cabin lovers.
 
 

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
 actually, there have been several republicans that have come out. . .

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  actually, there have been several republicans that have come out. . .jim kolbe from az had a wife and kids (i think), came out and was still re-elected to congress (despite the objections of the stupid religious right). . .michael huffington, ex-husband of ariana huffington, course, that shouldn't be a surpise. . .and there was a congressman from minnesota. . .he came out, and was defeated in the primary, again by those stupid religious conservatives, and republican's promptly lost that seat.

there was also Steve Gunderson, who was outed on the floor of the house by right wing crazy, well crazy in general, Bob Dornan

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Wait, you guys are saying there are gay politicians?

[SalParadise]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
   

Originally posted by SalParadise:
  if only he'd been a republican.

actually, there have been several republicans that have come out. . .jim kolbe from az had a wife and kids (i think), came out and was still re-elected to congress (despite the objections of the stupid religious right). . .michael huffington, ex-husband of ariana huffington, course, that shouldn't be a surpise. . .and there was a congressman from minnesota. . .he came out, and was defeated in the primary, again by those stupid religious conservatives, and republican's promptly lost that seat. [/b]

the timing of this just seems very deliberate. and now they want him to resign immediately instead of waiting 'til nov. 15th.
 
 politricks.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by econo:
  You all really need to see Sleepaway Camp.

I haven't heard about "Sleepaway Camp" in years.  Brilliant comparison too.
 
 econo's right too - you should all see it.

[nkotb]

But skip parts two and three.  They don't compare to the original.  And don't watch Indiana Joan and the Black Hole of Mamu.  That's bogus as well.
 
 

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by econo:
  You all really need to see Sleepaway Camp.

I haven't heard about "Sleepaway Camp" in years.  Brilliant comparison too.
 
 econo's right too - you should all see it. [/b]

[vansmack]

Originally posted by nkotbie:
  But skip parts two and three.  

As far as I'm concerned, they're with Slap Shot Two and Caddyshack Two - they never happenend.

[thirsty moore]

I think the plan for Indiana Joan was that someone had to find her attractive.
 
 

Originally posted by nkotbie:
 And don't watch Indiana Joan and the Black Hole of Mamu.  That's bogus as well.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

It shouldn't take him long to move out of the governors mansion; he's already got his shit packed.