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vansmack

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Napster is Back!
« on: October 28, 2003, 09:53:00 pm »
Well almost.
 
 Register before October 29th and receive 5 free tracks.
 
 http://www.napster.com/
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broadkat

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Re: Napster is Back!
« Reply #1 on: October 29, 2003, 01:36:00 pm »
me scared.

vansmack

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Re: Napster is Back!
« Reply #2 on: October 29, 2003, 01:47:00 pm »
Trying it right now.
 
 System Requirements
 PC only, Windows XP/2000, Microsoft Internet Explorer 5.01 or higher, Windows Media Player 7.1 or higher, Internet connectivity
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markie

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Re: Napster is Back!
« Reply #3 on: October 29, 2003, 01:50:00 pm »
why not just use the itunes store?

vansmack

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Re: Napster is Back!
« Reply #4 on: October 29, 2003, 02:07:00 pm »
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Originally posted by I am Markie. Annoy Mattie:
  why not just use the itunes store?
Napster Premium.  For $9.95 per month, consumers can enhance their Napster experience by choosing a premium subscription service that offers Unlimited streaming and downloading and access to professionally programmed radio stations AND JUST FOR MARKIE Message boards to share opinions and offer suggestions
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markie

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Re: Napster is Back!
« Reply #5 on: October 29, 2003, 02:16:00 pm »
itunes is hooked up with a load of radio staions..... I guess that is what streaming means?
 
 What downloads is napster giving away with the subscription?
 
 I would suggest they use itunes

vansmack

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Re: Napster is Back!
« Reply #6 on: October 29, 2003, 02:24:00 pm »
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Originally posted by I am Markie. Annoy Mattie:
  why not just use the itunes store?
The files are WMA and not AAC so they will play on all of my devices.
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markie

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Re: Napster is Back!
« Reply #7 on: October 29, 2003, 02:29:00 pm »
WMA does not work with all devices just like AAC. AAC does work with the most popular device though.
 
 KMA

vansmack

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Re: Napster is Back!
« Reply #8 on: October 29, 2003, 02:38:00 pm »
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Originally posted by I am Markie. Annoy Mattie:
  WMA does not work with all devices just like AAC. AAC does work with the most popular device though.
 
 KMA
I said all of "my devices."  AAC is not supported by my TiVo or by my handheld or by Smackette's MP3 player, all of which support WMA files.
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markie

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Re: Napster is Back!
« Reply #9 on: October 29, 2003, 02:57:00 pm »
sure, pinko.  <img src="http://www.gras-wien.gruene.at/pics/napster.gif" alt=" - " />

vansmack

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« Reply #10 on: October 29, 2003, 03:11:00 pm »
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Originally posted by I am Markie. Annoy Mattie:
  What downloads is napster giving away with the subscription?
It looks like nearly the entire collection (half a million songs), however I haven't been able to burn any of the downloads that I didn't purchase.
 
 I downloaded (but did not purchase) the entire Yeah Yeah Yeahs "Fever to Tell" album and it plays on my laptop, Smackette's laptop, TiVo (so through the stereo), and my handheld, but not Smackette's Mp3 player so it looks like you must have Windows Media Player 9.0 to play it, but you can't burn it.
 
 They're also offering a Napster Player that resembles an iPod - 20 GB for $400 with a 10 hour rechargeable battery and an FM tuner and broadcaster (ie, you can set any stereo to a preset FM channel and the songs off of your Napster player play through your stereo).
 
 Lastly, your rights management is portable.  If I go to friends house and sign in to his Napster software with my user name and password, I can listen to all of my songs at my friends house.  Again, I cannot burn (not sure yet on songs I purchased, but I'd doubt it).
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markie

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« Reply #11 on: October 29, 2003, 03:18:00 pm »
so that is a cool subscription service and relatively cheap. It will be interesting to see if napster can make money. Apple have been making big noises about music distribution not being a good revenue earner. Perhaps that subscription might help? Is $10 spent on that really better than XM though?
 
 The ipod a like is from samsung. Its original version had to be changed as apple theatened to sue as it was a bit too close to the ipod.

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« Reply #12 on: October 29, 2003, 03:32:00 pm »
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Originally posted by I am Markie. Annoy Mattie:
  Is $10 spent on that really better than XM though?
 
 
That's the Million Dollar question, now isn't it?
 
 I think they're banking on the extras being the selling points - the internet radio and the chat boards, but I think most users can find those things for free so it's moot.  They also have videos.  Since the security is there, I expect iTunes will do the same very soon.  If you don't pay your monthly fee, the tracks you downloaded do not play.  It's like leasing the right to listen to music...
 
 I think the $9.95 fee will be good to listen to a lot of albums before I buy them, or better yet, have a copy of an album when it first comes out and then buy it used a few weeks to a month later if you like it.  I can see myself downloading the album and listening to it when it first comes out.  If I like it, keep it on the harddrive for a while and then when I find it in the used bins at Amoeba.
 
 With the leasing option, I will listen to a lot more music now though.
 
 Bottom line on iTunes vs. Napster is whether your preferred choice of file is AAC or WMA.  In a few months when every player supports both and iTunes adds the leasing feature, they will be about the same product.  That is when the record companies split their catalogs and we have to use both.  Joy joy, looking forward to it.
 
 You're right on the Samsung product.  One other cool feature is that it records too, so you can record a live preformance on the radio or through the line in.  If nothing else it will create competition and maybe the prices for both devices will come down.
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markie

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« Reply #13 on: October 29, 2003, 03:43:00 pm »
Oh Ok.
 
 I really dont like the lease idea, and I dont think a lot of potential sustomers will either...... We will see. At least with apple you pay for what you get. But then you dont get to listen to very much without paying
 
 The ipod now records as well, but its billed as a dictaphone. I dont think te quality is that great. I cannot see prices coming down much for a while as those microdrives are still pretty expensive.
 
 I expect a lot of companies to get burned. The is Roxio, Dell, Samsung and a few others all trying to compete with the ipod.... But I see ipods all the time, I have never seen another hard drive base mp3 player either in a store or plugged in to someones ears.
 
 I think you might like this website: gizmodo.com
 
 they focus on phones, but its geek tastic

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« Reply #14 on: October 29, 2003, 03:54:00 pm »
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Originally posted by I am Markie. Annoy Mattie:
   At least with apple you pay for what you get. But then you dont get to listen to very much without paying
I'm sorry, with Napster you can also buy songs for 99 cents a song or full albums for $9.95.
 
 They have 30 second snippets of all songs before you buy.
 
 They offer the Premium Service ($9.95 for unlimited downloads or the right to stream full songs/albums if you don't want to take up the harddrive space) on top of their regular service .  You can cancel premium service at any time, but when you do you lose the rights to listen to your downloads/streams.  Any song you purcahsed you can still listen to.
 
 The services are nearly identical except that Napster allows you to listen to more before buying for a fee.  And of course, one is AAC and the other WMA.
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