Author Topic: The Vines  (Read 4696 times)

phishphart5

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The Vines
« on: March 02, 2003, 05:06:00 pm »
Are the Vines actually coming to 9:30 on April 15 and the tickets aren't on sale or was i hallucinating again? Please say they're coming, because if they aren't, i'll have to go into some severe mental therapy. And that will be expensive...

walkman

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #1 on: March 02, 2003, 06:36:00 pm »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by phishphart5:<BR><B>if they aren't, i'll have to go into some severe mental therapy. And that will be expensive...</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Try going to the Supergrass show on Thursday.  Or buying a Kinks/Stooges album.<P>

bungle bud

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #2 on: March 02, 2003, 09:40:00 pm »
the vines are coming and im going for a shit.

myuman

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #3 on: March 02, 2003, 10:15:00 pm »
Let me save anyone hardship.  I explored this band front and center at the hfs b-stage this year.  I watched this guy stumble about, smoke too much, scream incoherently.... and the verdict to those who haven't figured it out..... stay home... please stay home.... give the money to the homeless.... make money oragami.... anything would be better.

markie

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #4 on: March 02, 2003, 10:19:00 pm »
But if you dont go you will miss out on The Music. What a stoopid name for a stoopid band.

paige

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #5 on: March 02, 2003, 10:46:00 pm »
yeah.. for so much hype i heard that theyre the crappiest live band...bah. and their music isn't even THAT good on cd. but THE music is worth it i guess (after i realized i was mixing the music and the streets up, haha)

sonickteam2

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #6 on: March 02, 2003, 10:59:00 pm »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B>But if you dont go you will miss out on The Music. What a stoopid name for a stoopid band.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>  what a stupid way to spell stoopid!!! oh lord.  <P>  Can we start the "how great The Music is" conversation again. Man, the more i listen to this band, the more i just love it.  In fact, i have convinced like 6 people to buy this CD at the store i work at, and they have ALL come back and thanked me! well, except one, but the point is. <BR>   FUCK THE VINES!!!! The Music is great, and you know what...i think the Streets album is funny. Better than US rap/hiphop/2step crap anyway.

myuman

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #7 on: March 03, 2003, 07:30:00 am »
Why the crappy review from pitchfork?  Not that Pitchfork is the gospel, but you'd think it would get a slightly better rating if it was that good.<P>The Music<BR>The Music<BR>[Virgin; 2002]<BR>Rating: 4.7<BR>If nothing else, The Music make a great first impression. Putting their disc in and cranking the volume, I was knocked down by the hard rock: the best production money can buy turned their electric guitars into blurry flames, and shot the singer's Robert Plant wails right through the ceiling. My furniture bounced, doors shook in their frames, the cat humped the dog. Then I played it on headphones and it sounded like shit. What gives?<P>This barely-legal Leeds quartet sounds more exciting than many recent British exports. For all the ways they're derivative-- owing to the hard rock of Led Zeppelin, the Stone Roses and The Verve, and oddly even ZZ Top's Eliminator-- The Music also show signs of a style to call their own. The problem is they just can't flush out a solid album yet: not unlike their recent US tourmates The Vines, The Music's debut sounds overproduced and underdeveloped.<P>Which isn't to say they're just another industry product. What record label would let a band go out there with a name as fuck-you stupid as The Music; not only is it ridiculous, it makes them impossible to find on the web and the butt of any number of easy jokes. But The Music might get away with it, because when they're on, they're gargantuan: Robert Harvey has all the lung capacity of his arena-rock idols, with a whiny twinge and enough of an accent to make it his own. He can do the banshee wails and the blood-drenched yelps, as evidenced on the ululations during the chorus of "The People". Alex Nutter wires his guitar through every gizmo the label could give him, and though it sometimes saps the sexual energy, it also makes his axe more thunderous. "Take the Long Road and Walk It" churns and roils before the band slowly unfurls "Human" and "Too High"; the latter track is their epic, and they expertly pace it from the ethereal opening sheen to a scorching crescendo ushered by bleating vocals.<P>We already knew they could rock-- the title track from their first EP, You Might as Well Try to Fuck Me, rubs Nutter's raunchy guitar against those squeeze-my-lemon beltings in a no-nonsense, badass single that's certainly earned a place on some future Nuggets box set. The change-up is how The Music flirt with becoming a dance band on this debut full-length. Not just anyone can pull off the rock/dance mix that's so popular nowadays, and as expected, the record has its misfires-- particularly the thudding beat on the second half of the abysmally named "Disco" (remember, that title came from a band called The Music).<P>But then there's "Float", which is a complete blast: Harvey pulls off the switch from stage-dominating rock singer to party-starting MC, and we discover how Phil Jordan's sharp, crisp drums suit the crossbred electronica. Harvey's cries drive an invisible rave that jumps higher and higher, almost smearing into sheer white noise before they cut it off. After "Float", however, comes the bloat: The Music creep up to the hour-long mark-- breaking that seal with the U.S. bonus tracks-- which gives you far too much time to evaluate these guys.<P>Under the ruckus, they aren't great songwriters. For example, their most stripped-down tune, "Turn Out the Light", is the worst power-ballad Diane Warren never wrote for Aerosmith. Harvey's take on the chorus is catchy, but the melodramatic guitar riff is cliched from the first note. Even when they have nothing to say, they keep on screaming as one emptily smoldering guitar solo bleeds into another. At some point, your temples become battered by recycled melodies and silly lyrics, which teeter between nu-druid ramblings and Successories uplift about "hope" and "dreams," and you just pray for it all to fucking stop, already.<P>More than Zeppelin, The Music resemble latter-day Rush, where technical achievement sterilizes sweat and fretboard filth-- but even Rush knew how to pace the technological tricks they employed. In short, the Music either need to grow into their overwrought arrangements, or write more than three catchy pop songs.<P>-Chris Dahlen, January 14th, 2003<P>

markie

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #8 on: March 03, 2003, 11:17:00 am »
see I am not the only one who thinks the music is a stupid name....<P>BTW they have the musics album for $10 in the front rack at DCCD.

sonickteam2

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #9 on: March 03, 2003, 11:19:00 am »
This is why i dont read reviews before i hear something.  I see the reasoning for some of the critisism and i understand that if it is your job to analyze music and compare it to everything else you have heard, that you may lose the basic point of MOST peoples listening reasons.  It sounds damn good. You can put this CD in and either light a candle and sit on your couch, or you can sing along loudly, as if you could get that high, or whatever.  Its a good listen, and i feel bad for people that cant just appreciate music for its listenability anymore.  Not just this CD , but many CDs that are reviewed by these magazines are either reviewed well, and oyu cant listen to them, or they get bad reviews cause its too easy to appreciate them.<P>   so where do you go to appease the critics and those that live by thier words, and still reach the audience that just wants to hear something that makes thier ears happy??<P> at least they arent the Chili Peppers.

sonickteam2

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #10 on: March 03, 2003, 11:32:00 am »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by markie:<BR><B>see I am not the only one who thinks the music is a stupid name....<P>BTW they have the musics album for $10 in the front rack at DCCD.</B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>  yes, yes, The Music is a WAY stupid name. but who really cares i suppose. its very very uncreative. haha.  i cant believe no one has called their band that yet. <BR>   and Record & Tape Traders has it for $8.99<P>

wingelbert humptyback

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #11 on: March 03, 2003, 12:02:00 pm »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by myuman:<BR><B>Why the crappy review from pitchfork?  Not that Pitchfork is the gospel, but you'd think it would get a slightly better rating if it was that good.<BR></B><HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>Well, you basically answered your own question. Pitchfork is definitely not the gospel and never will be. I've seen them nail my impressions of a cd almost word for word (Har Mar Superstar comes to mind) and I've also seen them wax poetic about stuff I think is practically worthless (*cough* hecker *cough*). Not to mention they seem to be overly critical these days and growing even more so (TSOOL really only deserves a 3 out of 10, eh?). But that's beside the point, which is quite simple: just because they say something is crap doesn't necessarily make it so. I would think people would know that's true of any review source. <P>On that note, I don't really find it too surprising they don't like the Music.

sonickteam2

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #12 on: March 03, 2003, 12:06:00 pm »
<BLOCKQUOTE><font size="1" face="Arial, Veranda">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wingelbert humptyback:<BR> I would think people would know that's true of any review source. <BR>B]<HR></BLOCKQUOTE><P>and you would be wrong, believe it or not!<P>

pepper*sans*salt

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #13 on: March 03, 2003, 02:40:00 pm »
The Vines... a bit overated? I saw them at the 9:30 sometime last fall and I must admit that the frontman (forgot the name) was more entertaining than the music. The way he was swinging that guitar around his scrawny neck, I expected that he would hang himself at any minute.<BR>I've heard more interesting stuff but I can't hate on the Vines. There're getting theirs so i'd just better shut up.

phishphart5

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Re: The Vines
« Reply #14 on: March 03, 2003, 05:55:00 pm »
Yes, i've heard that the vines really really suck live. I've heard Craig Nicholls (aka frontman) doesn't start singing until the third or fourth song and that he attacks his mates, but i'll probably be one of those crazy vines fanatics who will enjoy a show. I have never seen them in live and am DYING to see Craig in the flesh. In my (strange and mangled) opinion, he is a sexy beast. Even the kid I have a crush on looks like him.<BR>I probably  haven't heard enough to really judge, but from what i've heard, i don't think the music is that great. I guess it all depends on personal taste.