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930clubber

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US Visa Problems For UK Bands
« on: September 27, 2007, 05:30:00 pm »
I'm seeing the Klaxons and BSP next month...
 
 Can't believe INS is keeping UK bands out when millions stream over the Southern border each year.  Under the P-1 rules, only the Elvis Costellos and Elton Johns get easy passage??
 
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 By Catherine Elsworth in Los Angeles
 Last Updated: 2:31am BST 18/09/2007
 
 Singers such as Lily Allen, the Mercury Prize-winning band the Klaxons and the London indie rockers Mystery Jets are among the performers suffering visa problems.
 
 Lily Allen had her visa withdrawn last month forcing her to miss a performance
 
 Anticipated American tours by at least three British bands this month have been cancelled or rescheduled because of visa issues.
 
 In addition, at least 10 tours by other hyped British acts have been scrapped due to visa problems over the past year, the Wall Street Journal reports.
 
 Despite having huge support in America, many British musicians are failing to qualify for the P-1 class visa traditionally given to acts who can prove they have been "internationally recognised" for a "sustained and substantial" amount of time.
 
 However, performers now can become the hottest property on the music scene almost overnight without the large back catalogue and track record of fame normally used to secure a US work visa.
 
 The Klaxons, formed in 2005, submitted magazine reviews as part of their application for US visas last year to play in New York.
 
 But officials delayed the application, forcing the Klaxons to cancel their tour.
 
 Allen was due to perform at the MTV Video Music Awards earlier this month in Las Vegas before embarking on a sold-out West Coast tour.
 
 But her US visa was taken away last month.
 
 "It's going to slow momentum," her manager, Neale Easterby, said. "We just want to get back out there."

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Re: US Visa Problems For UK Bands
« Reply #1 on: September 27, 2007, 05:34:00 pm »
What the hell! I don't wanna miss the Klaxons!
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Re: US Visa Problems For UK Bands
« Reply #2 on: September 27, 2007, 06:29:00 pm »
I just saw the Klaxons opening for Bjork in New York on Monday, so it looks like their visa stuff got sorted out.  (Maybe the postponed tour was meant to have taken place last year?)
 
 I was not very impressed with the Klaxons.  I think Mr. Hudson and the Library would've been a more appropriate pick for the Mercury Prize.

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« Reply #3 on: September 27, 2007, 09:39:00 pm »
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  I just saw the Klaxons opening for Bjork in New York on Monday, so it looks like their visa stuff got sorted out.  (Maybe the postponed tour was meant to have taken place last year?)
 
 I was not very impressed with the Klaxons.  I think Mr. Hudson and the Library would've been a more appropriate pick for the Mercury Prize.
They blew their load the night before in Boston at the tiny Paradise, which was a GREAT show.  MSG is way to big for most, it was WAY too big for a relatively small niche act with only one album and whose biggest previous NYC show was like mercury lounge or bowery ballroom.  
 
 That said,  the album is good, but everyone else nominated for the Mercury prize would've been more suitable than them.
 
 But I wholeheartedly endorse the double bill with Shit Disco, it'll have a lot kiddie bandwagoneers, but should be great anyway.

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« Reply #4 on: September 28, 2007, 01:33:00 am »
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but everyone else nominated for the Mercury prize would've been more suitable than them.
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no way. this was a really weak year overall. most of the nominees were either rehashing stuff other people already did, or rehashing their own material.  klaxons are pretty fresh sounding.

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« Reply #5 on: September 28, 2007, 02:11:00 am »

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« Reply #6 on: September 28, 2007, 10:25:00 am »
The Klaxons were scheduled to play at CMJ LAST year and they had to cancel their shows because of visa issues (which is what that was in reference to).
 
 Shit Disco is not cancelling their tour to visa issues. Bassist is ill.
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Re: US Visa Problems For UK Bands
« Reply #7 on: September 28, 2007, 11:21:00 am »
Can you post a link to the original article?

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Re: US Visa Problems For UK Bands
« Reply #9 on: September 28, 2007, 08:05:00 pm »
The WSJ article mentioned in the above:
 
 U.S. Repels British Invasion; Immigration policy collides with surge of U.K. bands, scuttling fall concert plans
 
 British pop star Lily Allen was supposed to perform at the MTV Video Music Awards last weekend and then head to the West Coast for the week of sold-out concerts she had booked. Instead, she spent this past week at home in London.
 
 The reason: The chart-topping singer can't get into the U.S. American authorities took away her immigration visa last month.
 
 This fall, the British aren't coming. Immigration restrictions are stopping some popular United Kingdom acts from reaching U.S. borders. At least three anticipated tours by British artists scheduled for this month alone have been called off or pushed back because of musicians' visa problems. That is on top of at least 10 scuttled tours by buzzed- about British acts in the last year.
 
 Part of the problem, immigration specialists say: The traditional visa system isn't set up to cope with the new face of popular music. To get into the U.S., many foreign music acts need to secure a document known as the "P-1"-class visa. This visa requires acts to prove that they have been "internationally recognized" for a "sustained and substantial" amount of time.
 
 But in the current music scene, some of the most sought-after bands are ones that didn't exist two years ago and have risen rapidly thanks to exposure on the Internet. These bands, with huge fan followings but short track records, are finding themselves trying to prove to immigration officials that they are famous.
 
 For the English band Klaxons, that meant submitting clips of magazine reviews as part of their visa application package last year. The band, which last week won the U.K.'s prestigious Nationwide Mercury Prize, is known for a driving mix of dance, pop and rock that sparks frenzied live shows. After forming in the fall of 2005, the group quickly ascended to fame in England, thanks in large part to buzz on MySpace.
 
 Last fall, the group landed a spot at the CMJ music festival in New York, an annual showcase of new talent. But its visa request was delayed when immigration officials said they needed more evidence of the band's longevity. About a week before its scheduled trip to the U.S., the band pulled the plug on the tour. The group waited another seven months to enter the U.S.
 
 U.S. Citizenship and Immigration Services, a division of the Department of Homeland Security, says that the Internet has changed the kind of evidence that bands present -- posts from blogs and online magazines now appear in application packages. But the agency says it will only consider these sources if the band can prove that they are well-read and influential. The burden of proof falls on the band.
 
 "We're not Simon Cowell. We're the people who have to know why this group qualifies," says Robert DeJulius, an adjudications supervisor at one of the two service centers that processes P-1 visas. Mr. DeJulius adds that his center has, in fact, processed the petition of Mr. Cowell, the "American Idol" judge.
 
 Immigration restrictions have affected fields from investment banking to biotechnology in recent years. In the wake of the terrorist attacks of Sept. 11, 2001, and a national debate on immigration, some companies say they have had more trouble bringing in talented people from abroad. The pop-music world is dealing with its own version of this issue.
 
 Emerging indie bands account for a small portion of music-industry revenues. But concert promoters and clubs typically take a hit whenever there's a cancellation. Live concerts are one of the only bright spots in the music business now. Box-office grosses for the top 100 concerts increased by 3.7% to $1.05 billion for the first half of 2007 over the same period last year, according to Pollstar. Meanwhile, album sales fell by 15.1% in that period, according to Nielsen SoundScan.
 
 As a result of Ms. Allen's tour cancellation, instead of being packed to its 1,500-person capacity Friday night, the Crystal Ballroom in Portland, Ore., was empty. The club didn't collect the $10,000 rental fee it would have gotten for the performance from local promoter Monqui Presents, which had spent about $2,000 advertising the show.
 
 "Being dark on a Friday night, it's a big loss," says Jimi Biron, a booker for McMenamins, the club chain that owns the Crystal Ballroom and 15 other venues.
 
 Had the tour happened, Ms. Allen would have collected up to $120,000 for six concerts, according to someone familiar with her earnings. She also could have pocketed up to $10,000 per concert in merchandise sales. Harder to estimate is the loss for Ms. Allen and her record label, Capitol, in album sales her tour could have spurred.
 
 "It's going to slow momentum down," says Ms. Allen's manager, Neale Easterby. "We just want to get back out there."
 
 In Ms. Allen's case, it wasn't lack of recognition that caused her visa problems. According to her manager, Ms. Allen had a one-year visa that was valid until Sept. 25. But it was taken away on Aug. 5 when she landed in Los Angeles. Her manager says he thinks the visa might have been revoked because Ms. Allen had been arrested in London in June after an altercation with photographers. USCIS says it does not comment on individual cases. Ms. Allen declined to comment.
 
 All this comes as some foreign governments are ramping up efforts to export pop music. New Zealand, for instance, has formed a music commission with a $400,000 budget to support the country's music acts on tours abroad. At least three bands will play New Zealand's first showcase concert at the CMJ festival next month.
 
 "We've seen a much more aggressive effort from the cultural export agencies. I see it as the globalization of the music marketplace," says CMJ founder Robert Haber. This year, bands from 50 countries are slated to perform at the event, up from about 30 countries three years ago.
 
 The Internet has made it easier for bands to build American fan bases before they ever land on U.S. shores. When the London indie-rock band Mystery Jets had to cancel its U.S. concert debut this summer because of visa problems, 21-year-old Krisan Cieszkiewicz of Portage, Ind., was devastated. "I've never experienced anything more heartbreaking or cruel in my life," says Ms. Cieszkiewicz, who had planned to see the band in Chicago.
 
 Canceled tours by British groups attract particular notice, in part because of a surge of British acts on the U.S. music scene. In the past two years, some of the best-selling albums in the U.S. have come from artists including James Blunt and Coldplay.
 
 The P-1 is one of several classes of visas that entertainers can use to enter the U.S. to work. Superstars and others deemed to have "extraordinary ability" typically receive an "O-1" visa.
 
 The number of P-1 visa applications approved by the U.S. government -- which also includes visas for athletes and can include groups ranging from two to several dozen or more -- has actually risen slightly in recent years -- from 42,430 in 2001 to 46,205 in 2006. But some immigration experts say the visa process has become stricter and more complex for musicians.
 
 Before 2001, for example, tour managers were allowed to bring band members' visa documents to local U.S. consulates for visa approval. Now, each applicant must appear in person at a U.S. embassy for fingerprinting, a retinal scan and an interview.
 
 New guidelines allow acts to submit visa applications up to a year ahead of a tour, but most clubs won't schedule shows more than a few months ahead. Bands often pay an extra $1,000 fee for speedier "premium" processing.
 
 These logistical headaches are David King's bread and butter. Mr. King runs the New York-based Traffic Control Group, a company to which many bands turn for visa help. His clients include Lily Allen, Elton John and Van Morrison.
 
 A former insurance broker from England who became a U.S. citizen three years ago, Mr. King specializes in convincing immigration workers that his clients are, in fact, famous.
 
 On his office wall, Mr. King tracks pending tour deadlines on a large whiteboard. He says he has had only a handful of outright visa denials in his 10 years at Traffic Control; he turns down potential clients if he senses they won't pass muster.
 
 "We have a reputation to keep up," he says. "I say, 'Go away and come back in a year.'"
 
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 M.I.A.
 
 When she couldn't get into the U.S. to work with a top producer, she collaborated with musicians in India and Trinidad.
 
 New Model Army
 
 This politically charged punk band scratched a 28-concert tour that was to start last week.
 
 Klaxons
 
 The dance-rock band canceled its U.S. tour last year when it had trouble proving it had been together long enough for a visa.
 
 Holly Golightly
 
 Three U.S. shows for this week fell through after officials asked for more evidence of her international profile.

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Re: US Visa Problems For UK Bands
« Reply #10 on: September 30, 2007, 03:03:00 pm »
Pipettes have hit the same snag.  Looks like no more DC show.
 
 
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 North American tour postponed
 Unfortunately, we have to push back our North American dates due to our visa paperwork being delayed. We're doing everything we can to fix this but we're going to have to delay the start of the tour until October 25.
 
 The tour will now kick off on Oct 25 at the Echoplex in LA and the first week of dates (up to Vancouver) are unchanged. The rest of the cities will be:
 
 Los Angeles
 San Diego
 San Francisco
 Portland
 Seattle
 Eugene
 Vancouver
 Denver
 Austin
 Atlanta
 Baltimore
 New York City
 Philadelphia
 Boston
 Montreal
 Toronto
 Pittsburgh
 Cleveland
 Chicago
 
 We'll post more information on Monday with details on the new dates and what to do if you already bought tickets.
 
 We're really sorry to be forced to postpone the dates this close and can't wait to get out on tour to make it up to you.
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Re: US Visa Problems For UK Bands
« Reply #11 on: September 30, 2007, 06:15:00 pm »
Last year, singer/songwriter, Teitur Lassen (from Faroes, resides in UK) had problems with his visa too. The other two artists on the tour had no problems, as well as his management and sound team. Anyway, it was right after the bombings in London, so things have gotten even tougher from what his manager said. All was resolved, but it took a couple of months. Thus, while everyone was here, Teitur sat home and wrote a song called, "I am not a terrorist." :)

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« Reply #12 on: September 30, 2007, 10:25:00 pm »
Jesu/Godflesh's management can never seem to pull it together with Visa issues. Let's hope they make it to DC next month. (fingers crossed)

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« Reply #13 on: September 30, 2007, 10:42:00 pm »
They canceled some dates in early March but eventually made it (they didn't make it to DC and Philly, but made it to NYC). Unless they have to reapply every 6 months, they should be able to make it to the October shows.
 
   
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  Jesu/Godflesh's management can never seem to pull it together with Visa issues. Let's hope they make it to DC next month. (fingers crossed)
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« Reply #14 on: October 01, 2007, 01:32:00 am »
Crap. This is so frustrating! A friend of mine's band is going through this same shit trying to get in for one measly show. They aren't British but from Ireland so same issues really. The show is only a week or two away and they are getting rather antsy about everything now since they have yet to get approval, if that ever comes through. It costs them something like $3,500 just to apply!!! And that's with no guarantees! (Sounds like extortion to me...but that's just my opinion.) They've got the best booking agency in the US working on it so things should work out but if they had to do it all on their own, they wouldn't even bother.
 
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