MLB Playoffs 2007

[saco]

Those of us in Red Sox Nation certainly think that if Buckner doesnt make that error we win the game and series...remember the game was already tied at that point.
 
 If we're going to be insufferable remembering the bad luck for decades, (I'm as guilty as anyone) lets remember the good luck too is all I'm saying...

[sweetcell]

Originally posted by callat703:
  The Red Sox had better not come back and win this series.  I couldn't deal with their fans if that happened.  They're obnoxious enough already.

it should come as no surprise to you, then, that i'm a sox fan    
 
 as predicted, i bailed on the pumpkins (decent show, 930 was better) and headed to a bar to catch the end of the game.  go there just in time for the 7th, i.e. the bad lofton play and the sox blowing it open.  way better, and much more emotion, than the pumpkins show (which, to be fair, didn't take that much...    )

[Barcelona]

I am not a big baseball fan, didn't go to a single game in my six years living in the US, but I don't know why I enjoy the playoffs. Yesterday I was upset, I don't like the Red Sox (I dislike the Yankees even more), but I hope Colorado can beat them in the final round. I should be watching some of the games on tv, well, not watching (it's still kind of boring, but like to follow it) but having the game on tv while working with the computer.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
  i dont entirely buy the theory that those plays make that much of a difference.
 
 

I don't think anybody's saying that the Indians would have won if Skinner hadn't done that.  But I think we're all in agreement that it certainly was the moment when we knew the Sox would win. [/b]

extremely true.

[shemptiness]

Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I am not a big baseball fan, didn't go to a single game in my six years living in the US, but I don't know why I enjoy the playoffs. Yesterday I was upset, I don't like the Red Sox (I dislike the Yankees even more), but I hope Colorado can beat them in the final round. I should be watching some of the games on tv, well, not watching (it's still kind of boring, but like to follow it) but having the game on tv while working with the computer.

Well the Yankees and the Sox are pretty much interchangeable at this point, with the amount of money they spend to attempt to win a championship.  Isn't that why Man U is hated so?
 
 Pretty much comes down to the haves and the have-nots.  And the have-nots have to be smarter and luckier to win.  Sometimes the planets align.  Sometimes they don't.

[ggw]

Originally posted by bnyced0:
   

Originally posted by tigers scare me:
   

hands down worst sports town/fans in the country  

Um, having seen many Mets/phillies games at the vet growing up, i will have to politely disagree and point you toward that fan set. [/b]

Wasn't exactly expecting a local to agree, I mean during P.E. in elementary when everyone else in the country was playing dodge ball you guys were probably practicing throwing lethal shit (batteries, spears, ginsu knives, etc)  at anything that wasn't local. [/b]

Looking for attractive people? Don't go to ...
 
 'City of Brotherly Love' tops survey of least stylish, active, friendly, worldly
 
 Reuters
 Updated: 1:46 p.m. ET Oct 22, 2007
 
 PHILADELPHIA - Philadelphia is home to the least attractive people in the United States, a survey of visitors and residents showed on Friday.
 
 The city of more than 1.5 million people was also found to be among the least stylish, least active, least friendly and least worldly, according to the "America's Favorite Cities" survey by Travel & Leisure magazine and CNN Headline News.
 
 About 60,000 people responded to the online survey, which ranked 25 cities in categories including shopping, food, culture, and cityscape, said Amy Farley, senior editor at the magazine.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Shemp:
   

Originally posted by Barcelona:
  I am not a big baseball fan, didn't go to a single game in my six years living in the US, but I don't know why I enjoy the playoffs. Yesterday I was upset, I don't like the Red Sox (I dislike the Yankees even more), but I hope Colorado can beat them in the final round. I should be watching some of the games on tv, well, not watching (it's still kind of boring, but like to follow it) but having the game on tv while working with the computer.

Well the Yankees and the Sox are pretty much interchangeable at this point, with the amount of money they spend to attempt to win a championship.  Isn't that why Man U is hated so?
 
 Pretty much comes down to the haves and the have-nots.  And the have-nots have to be smarter and luckier to win.  Sometimes the planets align.  Sometimes they don't. [/b]

bitter bitter
 
   First of all, the Yankees were the first team to start spending all that cash, and did so to win 4 World Series' , Boston has won ONCE, so at least let the Sox enjoy a couple more before you whine about their salary.
 
    Secondly, the Yankees have forced the Sox (and most every other team in baseball) to spend or be beaten every year. So dont get mad cause the Sox chose to try to compete rather than just let themselves lose every year.
 
    The Angels know that too. they won in 2002. The White Sox are over 100 million too, they won in 2005.   Tigers are at what, 90 million? world series last year.
 
    in fact,  if you look at the top 5 paid teams in the AL
 
    Yankees, Red Sox, White Sox, Angels, Tigers.
 
   hmmm, last 5 teams in the World Series.
 
  Red Sox, Tigers, White Sox, Yankees, Angels.
 
    Sure the NL is different but seriously, you want to pay your team $60 million? You might win a division  but you're probably NOT going to the Series.  
     
    your story is so tiresome.

[shemptiness]

Hey, why stop at $200 million.  Nothing like dropping $500 to take your family to a baseball game.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Shemp:
  Hey, why stop at $200 million.  Nothing like dropping $500 to take your family to a baseball game.

complaining about ticket prices is only something you do when you're not winning.

[Guiny]

Originally posted by le sonick:
 First of all, the Yankees were the first team to start spending all that cash, and did so to win 4 World Series' ,  [/QB]

Did they have to spend to win those four series?  Sure they had some players from outside of the organization, but if I remember correctly, and it was a long time ago, alot of players on those teams came up within their system.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Buck Satan:
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
 First of all, the Yankees were the first team to start spending all that cash, and did so to win 4 World Series' ,  [/b]

Did they have to spend to win those four series?  Sure they had some players from outside of the organization, but if I remember correctly, and it was a long time ago, alot of players on those teams came up within their system. [/QB]

yeah, partially true.
 
 they didnt have a $200 million payroll, but the Yanks did have the highest payroll in Baseball during 3 of those 4 years (Baltimore was the highest paid team in 1998)
 
  in fact, here's something interesting:
 
    in 1988 the Dodgers won the Series, in 1989 they had the highest payroll.
 
    in 1989, the A's won the Series, they had the highest payroll in 1991.
 
    in 1993, the Blue Jays owned both the highest payroll AND the Championship.
 
    the Yankees did it in 1996, 1999 and 2000.
 
    even the Orioles, whom after going to the ALCS in 1996 and 1997, owned baseballs highest payroll in 1998.
 
   
    This has gone on for almost 20 years at least. you want a winning team, you have to pay for it.
 
    I bet you'll find that before salary caps the highest paid football, hockey and basketball teams were more successful. (except the Rangers)

[vansmack]

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
    The Angels know that too. they won in 2002.

Actually, Anaheim's payroll the year they won was $61,721,667 - not anywhere near the top teams in baseball (15th to be precise).  That's when Disney cashed in on the team, and the new owner, coupled with huge season ticket sales has since invested a ton of money into the payroll.  They have yet to return to the World Series.

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by le sonick:
 
    The Angels know that too. they won in 2002.

Actually, Anaheim's payroll the year they won was $61,721,667 - not anywhere near the top teams in baseball (15th to be precise).  That's when Disney cashed in on the team, and the new owner, coupled with huge season ticket sales has since invested a ton of money into the payroll.  They have yet to return to the World Series. [/b]

well thats my point in posting those numbers. Most teams were at the top of the payroll numbers in years  following  thier championships or near championships.
 
 but even now as the Angels numbers are quite high, they win their division and always field a good team.

[shemptiness]

If only they could do something about their dumb team name.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Shemp:
  If only they could do something about their dumb team name.

Red Sox or Yankees?