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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: sonickteam2 on February 25, 2009, 10:03:29 am
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The Cure's Robert Smith Blasts Radiohead for Allowing Fans to Set a Price
Do you ever feel like you're in a tug-of-war with two of your favorite rock groups because one of them disses the other? What about if the "disser" also takes a shot at you and everyone you know in the same breath?
Well, leave it up to Robert Smith, everyone's favorite aging rocker, who had more than just his usually bad hair day today.
In an interview with Music Radar, The Cure's frontman lashed out at Radiohead, saying he "disagreed violently" with their pay-what-you want model for their 2007 blockbuster release, In Rainbows. Smith said allowing fans to determine their own price to download the album was an "idiot plan."
"You can't allow other people to put a price on what you do, " Smith said. "Otherwise you don't consider what you do to have any value at all and that's nonsense. If I put a value on my music and no one's prepared to pay that, then more fool me, but the idea that the value is created by the consumer is an idiot plan, it can't work."
Well, guess what Mr. Smith? Maybe no one will even want your music again after they hear what you said and how untimely pretentious and stupid you are - if there was ever a time that you need to give people a reason to 'value' your music and hand over precious few dollars for your music, it's now.
But you blew it, dude, and stomped on a growing movement that will only do more to allow the best, and the least greedy, musicians and groups find a nice middle ground between making a good living and not being 'owned' by anyone. It's already happening.
This is difficult in a way because I am a huge fan of both groups, and have been for a long time, but I guess I'll never look upon The Cure's music the same way again. I had no idea Smith lacked humility to such a tasteless degree. Afterall, his fans have given him a damn good living for three decades.
Maybe it's hard to make any sense to someone who wears a bird's nest on his head and more make-up than all the gals at the Creekside Rest Home. Did I get it wrong or did Smith not only talk trash about Radiohead, didn't he also basically say 'pay my price or f*ck off'?
I think it would be awesome if Radiohead wrote a song in response called "Idiot Plan". It will definitely get plenty of attention, that's for sure. If by any chance that happens, I'd love to get the scoop on the story! :)
this, from http://www.indierockcafe.com/
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Robert Smith is not my favorite aging rocker.
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A 50 year old has been that still wears 80's makeup is crying for attention, who woulda thunk it
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Boring.
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Boring.
yeah, i realize its nowhere near as riveting as your Yay, i got some Kings Of Leon tickets (http://www.930.com/forum/index.php?topic=18479.0) thread, but i am still tired from Mardi Gras drinking.....
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As am I. So easily flustered, relax.
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considering Radiohead have made several good albums in the last decade, and the Cure have made zero, maybe Radiohead knows what is up.
So who would he rather set the price of his music? Himself? His record label?
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It's official. Robert Smith is a douche. Not that I needed more proof.
*disclaimer*
I actually do like a few Cure albums. Shit, I even like a few old Metalica records, and that's a whole band of douches right there.
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Band Of Douches. Now that's a band name for you! 8)
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Not you personally, Chaz. After posting I realized that this could be read a couple different ways. lol
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come to think of it, pretty much any name with the word "douche" in it would make an awesome band name.
the doucheballs
douchemeister
death by douche
douche wolf
denitza and the douches
... and you shall know us by the trail of douchiness
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come to think of it, pretty much any name with the word "douche" in it would make an awesome band name.
the doucheballs
douchemeister
death by douche
douche wolf
denitza and the douches
... and you shall know us by the trail of douchiness
When my mind is idle and I'm up for some musical juvinile fun, I do the same thing with the word shit. Started out with bands I dislike but then it got so goofy that I expanded to include bands I like.
The Red Hot Chili Shits
My Morning Shit
...and you shall know us by the Trail of Shit
My Bloody Shit
Can't play these games with the Cure unless you are adding a word or two which sort of loses some of its fun.
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He doesn't think that the consumer determines something's value?
Bob needs an economics course. :)
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amendment: "denitza & the douchies"
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He doesn't think that the consumer determines something's value?
Bob needs an economics course. :)
precisely why i thought it was so funny.
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come to think of it, pretty much any name with the word "douche" in it would make an awesome band name.
the doucheballs
douchemeister
death by douche
douche wolf
denitza and the douches
... and you shall know us by the trail of douchiness
pure gold
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He doesn't think that the consumer determines something's value?
Bob needs an economics course. :)
precisely why i thought it was so funny.
I don't understand why musicians are excluded from being able to set the price for what their product sells for. I certainly can't show up at a Radiohead show and decide I will pay $5 for it...
The real douche is the putz at the computer who thought about what Robert Smith for more than 30 seconds and spewed out several words without realizing that Radiohead eventually set the price of what that album cost when it was issued on CD.
epic fail
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i bet theres already a douche wolf
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i bet theres already a douche wolf
and a Black Douche for sure too.
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Douche Springsteen?
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you know, i am somewhat disappointed that my thread has turned into some kind of douche fest.
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i was going to add 'douche lips' but that game me the douche chills
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you know, i am somewhat disappointed that my thread has turned into some kind of douche fest.
given the participants on this board, every thread turns into a douche-fest.
<hangs head in shame>
getting back off track: if i had to name a band today, i think i'd go with "the douchnozzles".
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you know, i am somewhat disappointed that my thread has turned into some kind of douche fest.
given the participants on this board, every thread turns into a douche-fest.
<hangs head in shame>
getting back off track: if i had to name a band today, i think i'd go with "the douchnozzles".
and if it was an electronic act, it could be DCHNZLS
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and if it was an electronic act, it could be DCHNZLS
you just made me spit green tea all over my keyboard.
(i might spell it DCHNZLZ, but that's splitting hairs)
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you know, i am somewhat disappointed that my thread has turned into some kind of douche fest.
given the participants on this board, every thread turns into a douche-fest.
<hangs head in shame>
getting back off track: if i had to name a band today, i think i'd go with "the douchnozzles".
Ah, come on. Why don't you go all out?
Bidet & the Douchnozzles
Now we need to see your cover and a tour poster for this Festival of Douches. I'd suggest holding it in Hot Springs, Arkansas due to it's wealth of references.
Obviously, we know who is headlining the Dance tent.
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Douche Springsteen?
Douche Miller
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Who Freaking Cares! What matter is the artist getting their music out to their fans, and music buyers have a choice in the way they buy music. Is that too hard to understand?
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Not nice to pick on somebody who just had a heart attack.
Douche Springsteen?
Douche Miller
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You just had a heart attack?
Not nice to pick on somebody who just had a heart attack.
Douche Springsteen?
Douche Miller
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If Radiohead makes a song called Idiot Plan... I will dload it for nothing.
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douche.
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could this have anything to do with the fact that 4:13 dream peaked at #16 and now is at #176 on billboard, and in rainbows peaked at # 1 and is still at #70 after 48 weeks on the chart?
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The Douchettes
Douche Douche
Douche Cock
I'm having a lot of fun with this!
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Douche on the Radio
LCD Douchesystem
Douche... or Astrodouche
Douchegarden
Sons and Douches
A Place to bury Douches
Douche Ra Tempel
That was fun.
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The Rolling Douches
The Pains Of Being Douches At Heart
Northern Douches
Douche Division
My Bloody Douche
The Velvet Douches
Whirladouche (Re: Whirlaway)
The Douching Pumpkins
Ultra Vivid Douche
Douches Of Distinction
The Douching Detectives
Douchewerk
Douche Attack
I Love You But I've Chosen Douching
The Dandy Douches
Flavor Douches
Twisted Doucher
Swervedoucher
At The Douche-In
Douchemen 3
The Morning After Douches
And Sean Combs changed his name again to P-Douchie
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Speaking of My Bloody Douche,
This coincides with your tour info. (http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/smf/index.php?topic=1271.0)
If legit, dates have to be announced within the next week; the start of the supposed tour is essentially a month away.
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No, the great Buddy Miller did.
You just had a heart attack?
Not nice to pick on somebody who just had a heart attack.
Douche Springsteen?
Douche Miller
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(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2008/11/20/128716918121727749.jpg)
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You got the wrong miller.
No, the great Buddy Miller did.
You just had a heart attack?
Not nice to pick on somebody who just had a heart attack.
Douche Springsteen?
Douche Miller
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Perhaps this is the right Miller.
Great headline.
http://www.theinsider.com/photos/1167535_The_slut_and_the_douche_move_in_together
You got the wrong miller.
No, the great Buddy Miller did.
You just had a heart attack?
Not nice to pick on somebody who just had a heart attack.
Douche Springsteen?
Douche Miller
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(http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/celebrity-pictures-vanilla-ice-douchebags-phenomenon.jpg)
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(http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/celebrity-pictures-vanilla-ice-douchebags-phenomenon.jpg)
uhmmm . . . i never knew vanilla was so "big in the pants" :o
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Speaking of My Bloody Douche,
This coincides with your tour info. (http://www.mybloodyvalentine.net/smf/index.php?topic=1271.0)
If legit, dates have to be announced within the next week; the start of the supposed tour is essentially a month away.
nice. i just started getting into them. I missed them the first time around, since i was 8 to 11 when they were making music. I am definitely down to go.
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(http://roflrazzi.files.wordpress.com/2009/02/celebrity-pictures-vanilla-ice-douchebags-phenomenon.jpg)
uhmmm . . . i never knew vanilla was so "big in the pants" :o
LOL. Glad that I'm not the only one who noticed that.
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off topic, but still in the douche category
http://www.spinner.com/2009/02/27/axl-rose-insists-original-guns-n-roses-lineup-is-dead-and-burie/