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Title: American Idol
Post by: Sage 703 on April 08, 2009, 12:06:28 pm
So, I don't watch this show.  But this popped up in Google Reader, and "Mad World" is an amazing song, so I watched it.

Gotta say: this kid can really sing.  Maybe a couple of small pitch issues in there, but overall - pretty impressive rendition.  From what I've read, I guess he's the far and away frontrunner this year, which is rather refreshing:

Clip is toward the bottom, song starts at about :40 in to the video.

http://idolator.com/5203542/american-idol-producers-very-serious-about-making-their-show-as-dvr+proof-as-possible
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 12:15:02 pm
I posted in the Smackie thread last night that Adam is by far the best contestant they've ever had.  Other than his Jeff Buckley version of Ring of Fire, everything he's done has impressed me.  Check out his "Tracks of my Tears" too.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: chaz on April 08, 2009, 12:34:33 pm
Yeah he's kind of creepy, but the kid really can sing.  I'm sure whatever album he makes will be tastless and awful though.  Tracks of my tears was really good.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: sonickteam2 on April 08, 2009, 12:58:24 pm
i like Karaoke too.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 08, 2009, 01:18:48 pm
Doesn't this belong in my thread?

http://www.930.com/forum/index.php?topic=18749.0
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: 6949 on April 08, 2009, 01:26:34 pm
I just discovered www.idletard.com and it's brilliant. It reminds me a bit of the dirty.com but with ugly idol stalkers.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: Bombay Chutney on April 08, 2009, 01:35:52 pm
He's much better now that he's starting to control that annoying falsetto.  For the first few weeks every song eventually descended into a noise that sounded like someone stepped on a cat.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 01:37:26 pm
Doesn't this belong in my thread?

Not really.  You intended to mock.  He intended to praise.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 08, 2009, 01:41:41 pm
Some people might call comparisons to Antony mocking. Most would call it praise.

Doesn't this belong in my thread?

Not really.  You intended to mock.  He intended to praise.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: chaz on April 08, 2009, 01:46:19 pm
I just discovered www.idletard.com and it's brilliant. It reminds me a bit of the dirty.com but with ugly idol stalkers.

Hilarious...thanks!  read this - http://www.idletard.com/blog/archives/6968#more-6968
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 01:59:10 pm
Some people might call comparisons to Antony mocking. Most would call it praise.

I didn't say "most people," I said "you"...was I wrong?
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: walkonby on April 08, 2009, 02:03:07 pm
the control this show has over people is almost as brilliant as the price is right.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on April 08, 2009, 02:07:02 pm
My intention was to neither praise nor to mock. It was simply to draw a comparison between Adam and Antony as a starting point for discussion.


Some people might call comparisons to Antony mocking. Most would call it praise.

I didn't say "most people," I said "you"...was I wrong?
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: xneverwherex on April 08, 2009, 02:31:05 pm
I didnt yet have a chance to see last night's show, but if Kris Allen gets booted tonight, Ill be sad. hes clearly the underdog and its a shame those judges always seem to heap the praises onto Danny and Lil (whatever her name is).
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 02:42:04 pm
I didnt yet have a chance to see last night's show, but if Kris Allen gets booted tonight, Ill be sad. hes clearly the underdog and its a shame those judges always seem to heap the praises onto Danny and Lil (whatever her name is).

Chris is in danger this week.  His song choice was poor and his execution even worse (I'm refraining from details because you haven't seen it yet).  I don't think he loses to the blind guy this week though - his song was PAINFUL.  Lil Rounds was also pretty bad.  I think Chris scoots through this week, but he's out of his league when it comes to Adam and, arguably Danny (who I've grown bored of).
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: xneverwherex on April 08, 2009, 03:21:06 pm
oohhh no. im kinda cringing thinking about how bad it can be - but the blind kid has got to go. im so tired of him and sadly danny who i used to really like. they pimped him out a bit too much along with lil rounds who i find forgettable. im hoping kris will make another round because for the past few weeks he was doing awesome!

btw - smackie - do you want DWTS? sadly im sucked into all this stuff and had to miss last night. i figured a date with a british guy would be so much better than all the above shows and that proved right - minus the hellish hangover i have :(
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: eros on April 08, 2009, 03:25:54 pm
I agree that Adam is probably one of the most talented people that has ever been on the show.  The question is - will middle America continue to vote for him as more details of his personal life trickle out?
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 03:39:14 pm
btw - smackie - do you want DWTS? sadly im sucked into all this stuff and had to miss last night. i figured a date with a british guy would be so much better than all the above shows and that proved right - minus the hellish hangover i have :(

No, stars have no place in Smackie's reality dance shows.  That's why I watch "So You Think You Can Dance" starring the always lovely Cat Deely.  Far better dancing.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 03:39:47 pm
The question is - will middle America continue to vote for him as more details of his personal life trickle out?

I hear Iowa is fine with it.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: godsshoeshine on April 08, 2009, 03:49:07 pm
california not so much
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: xneverwherex on April 08, 2009, 05:08:21 pm
so i just read about how most of our DVRs cut off Adams performance. i wish they could figure out the time constraints. guess ill be watching it on youtube.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: Justin Tonation on April 08, 2009, 05:41:09 pm
so i just read about how most of our DVRs cut off Adams performance. i wish they could figure out the time constraints. guess ill be watching it on youtube.

That's done on purpose. The idea is to keep people tuned in for the next show/to not tune to a different network. The DVR fix is easy: just set the show to record for x minutes before and/or after the scheduled time.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 05:43:22 pm
so i just read about how most of our DVRs cut off Adams performance. i wish they could figure out the time constraints. guess ill be watching it on youtube.

I have my DVR set to record most "live" shows for 5 minutes past the end time.  Sports get a half-hour to an hour at least.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on April 08, 2009, 05:44:39 pm
california not so much

Low blow, but well deserved.

The half that vote for American Idol are though.  As soon as they're voting age...
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: xneverwherex on April 08, 2009, 06:50:55 pm
ok so im watching this now and what the hell is going on tonight. kris well that was just not good, but lil cannot sing. she killed tina turners song and not in a good way. that was PAINFUL.

and yeah - i normally set my dvr for 5 mins after but im having some issues with too many shows to record at the same time.

thats what youtube is for :)
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 21, 2009, 07:19:59 am
Ruben Studdard beats Clay Aiken
David Cook beats David Archuletta
Kris Allen beats Adam Lambert

Is it becoming clear that America will always vote for the straight Southern guy over the gay guy? We may be ready for a Black president, but we're not ready for a Gay idol.

And dude, spell your freaking name with a "C". You only get to be Kris if your last name also starts with a "K" (Kristofferson, Kringle).
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: walkonby on May 21, 2009, 08:41:15 am
Ruben Studdard beats Clay Aiken
David Cook beats David Archuletta
Kris Allen beats Adam Lambert

Is it becoming clear that America will always vote for the straight Southern guy over the gay guy? We may be ready for a Black president, but we're not ready for a Gay idol.

And dude, spell your freaking name with a "C". You only get to be Kris if your last name also starts with a "K" (Kristofferson, Kringle).
that's because eminem taught the whole youth movement world that saying fag was a-ok.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: eros on May 21, 2009, 09:03:39 am
Kris Allen will have a nice little career making music for people who don't like music.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer on May 21, 2009, 12:34:31 pm
Adam has a long career ahead of him and I can't wait to buy his album. As for Kris Allen, he was right....Adam deserves this. But for goodness sakes, I hope someone talked to him. He needs to grow some self confidence. I got nothing against the kid, but he sounds just like Kenny Loggins to me - which is fine, but I just am sick of Kenny Loggins.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on May 21, 2009, 12:36:03 pm
Is it becoming clear that America will always vote for the straight Southern guy over the gay guy? We may be ready for a Black president, but we're not ready for a Gay idol.


I said something very similar last night.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: walkonby on May 22, 2009, 09:40:36 am
you know they released today that adam lost by the largest amount of votes in idol history.  strange how someone was the front runner from day one to day last, just to be beat at the end that way.  almost as if america (or a rigged contest who can't have a queer be the product) voted for a "specific" reason.  wow, gotta suck to be that guy who won . . . forever people will come up to him and say, "you know, you only won idol because you weren't gay.  adam is the one who really had the talent."

now the horse is beat.  the end.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 12:27:24 pm
Anyone who wrote this article without once mentioning Danny Gokey is clearly not watching the show...

..it was widely seen as the showdown between the gay guy and the Christian guy, with a judgment to be rendered by middle America. (http://foxforum.blogs.foxnews.com/2009/05/21/joseph_american_idol/)

Anyhow, Idol has an actual voting block problem that I don't think it can fix with the popularity of Votefortheworst.com - it was no big deal when it kept Sanjay in the contest, but now that they've made a point to affect the outcome of every show, there's not much that can be done to stop them.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: hutch on May 22, 2009, 12:37:29 pm
Who gives a shit? The show is pure garbage.


Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 12:39:22 pm
Who gives a shit? The show is pure garbage.

Says the guy who clicked the "American Idol" thread despite not giving a shit....
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: eros on May 22, 2009, 12:43:02 pm
Who gives a shit? The show is pure garbage.

Says the guy who clicked the "American Idol" thread despite not giving a shit....

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6374/ohsnapec2.gif)
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: bkrome on May 22, 2009, 12:59:01 pm
Adam might be a better singer but Kris is much more marketable to the Idol fan base.  Kris will have more success than most idol winners.  He falls into the Jason Mraz/John Mayer genre which is extremely marketable. 

Adam will be better as the lead singer in a band.  Queen should replace Paul Rogers with him.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 01:24:29 pm
Adam will be better as the lead singer in a band.  Queen should replace Paul Rogers with him.

I'm not as sure about your first statement (I think that type of singer has been played out to death...) but your second argument I completely agree with.  It was almost as if the Idol folks were pushing for this by having Queen on the final show.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 22, 2009, 01:33:35 pm
i'm sure american idol is a fine show and nothing against it or anything, but isnt saying someone's too gay to win american idol kind of like saying someones too much of a diva to win project runway?
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: sonickteam2 on May 22, 2009, 01:58:09 pm
you people have a black president, now you want a gay idol??? baby steps people, baby steps...
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 01:58:42 pm
i'm sure american idol is a fine show and nothing against it or anything, but isnt saying someone's too gay to win american idol kind of like saying someones too much of a diva to win project runway?

The Project Runway winner is not voted by the public the way American Idol is.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: eros on May 22, 2009, 02:00:58 pm
i'm sure american idol is a fine show and nothing against it or anything, but isnt saying someone's too gay to win american idol kind of like saying someones too much of a diva to win project runway?

Not so much.  Idol is still relatively conservative.  Good family primetime entertainment for the heartland.

In all this time, Adam is the "edgiest" contestant I can remember (unless you count the one who was in pr0n and the one who (allegedly) banged Paula Abdul).

Being gay certainly didn't help his chances against a church choir leader.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: godsshoeshine on May 22, 2009, 02:02:51 pm
fair enough. like i said i never watched it

judging by some of the shows i watch (projay, the hills/city) maybe its not gay enough
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: hutch on May 22, 2009, 05:00:48 pm
Who gives a shit? The show is pure garbage.

Says the guy who clicked the "American Idol" thread despite not giving a shit....

(http://img200.imageshack.us/img200/6374/ohsnapec2.gif)

Thats right! I did click on the thread to tell you the show is a crap show. What of it? You got a problem with that?
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 05:05:21 pm
Who gives a shit? The show is pure garbage.

Says the guy who clicked the "American Idol" thread despite not giving a shit....

Twice....that we know of.

Admit it, you're a closet watcher.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: hutch on May 22, 2009, 05:28:22 pm
Who gives a shit? The show is pure garbage.

Says the guy who clicked the "American Idol" thread despite not giving a shit....

Twice....that we know of.

Admit it, you're a closet watcher.

Dude, I don't even have a TV. I caught it at a friends place four years back.. the show is garbage. END OF STORY.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: vansmack on May 22, 2009, 05:37:40 pm
END OF STORY.

So you're saying that you're definitely not going to click on this thread again, right?
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: walkonby on May 22, 2009, 10:54:55 pm
END OF STORY.

So you're saying that you're definitely not going to click on this thread again, right?

you're such a rebel rouser.   :D
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: SPARX on May 22, 2009, 11:51:42 pm
Adam might be a better singer but Kris is much more marketable to the Idol fan base.  Kris will have more success than most idol winners.  He falls into the Jason Mraz/John Mayer genre which is extremely marketable. 

Adam will be better as the lead singer in a band.  Queen should replace Paul Rogers with him.

You saved me some typing. I agreee wholeheartedly with every word except the Kris will have more success than most Idol winners. I see him as a flash in the pan. 5 year career tops.
Title: Re: American Idol
Post by: hutch on May 23, 2009, 07:00:36 pm
END OF STORY.

So you're saying that you're definitely not going to click on this thread again, right?

you're such a rebel rouser.   :D

surely you mean rabble rouser! :)