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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on May 12, 2009, 07:12:52 pm
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Any idea if James' consolidating of the band (as I imagine happened) has already taken place, or will this be the final go round for Marty and Jesse? I know there are some, let's say, mild fans of the band on this board, but I, for one, am going to enjoy this show. Saw them in 05, was great. Haven't seen the most recent album live, am definitely looking forward to it.
Five songs I want to hear most:
When I Goose-Step
Gone for Good
Girl, Inform Me
Australia
Kissing the Lipless
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I'm going tomorrow night in Richmond. Would love to see your top, except for maybe substituting Girl On The Wing in place of Gone For Good.
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best live band ever
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Any idea if James' consolidating of the band (as I imagine happened) has already taken place, or will this be the final go round for Marty and Jesse?
I'm pretty sure they're already gone, according to that Pitchfork article a few days ago.
best live band ever
Uh, what?
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The Shins are totally hit and miss as a live band. I'm giving them another shot with this new lineup, we'll see how it works. Some nights they're awesome, other nights they're...well, let's just say that I wasn't impressed.
Top 5 songs:
1) Pink Bullets
2) Saint Simon
3) Caring is Creepy
4) Split Needles (alternate version)
5) Girl Inform Me
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best live band ever
Uh, what?
They are the best live band ever and I'm going to scream like a 14 year old girl if they play New Slang. Shins, if you're reading this, please please please play New Slang!
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Oh man, I don't know. Isn't that the equivalent of asking Jim Morrison to come down from heaven and perform the entire first Doors LP, and then get Jimi Hendrix, Janis Joplin and Keith Moon to do an encore with him?
Hmmm. Something tells me you'll be OK.
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According to Pitchfork, Marty and Jesse have already been jettisoned, and yes, James consolidated the band:
When we talked to Shins frontman James Mercer earlier this month, he confirmed that both keyboardist Marty Crandall and drummer Jesse Sandoval were out of the band. Here's how Mercer explained the lineup change: "I started to have production ideas that I wanted to do that basically required some other people. It's mainly about that. It's an aesthetic decision."
We don't know what Crandall's up to these days, but The Portland Mercury's End Hits blog has posted a hint about how Sandoval's spending his time: He's opening up a taco cart in Portland, Oregon! (And yes, the Mercury people already made the obligatory "these tacos will change your life" joke.) A publicist has confirmed that the report is true.
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back to the roll-call.....I'm in.
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me too!
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Cant wait. ;D
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i found tickets. i'll be there with my roommate.
i'm interested to see how they sound compared to their DAR show. i liked them then but am pumped to see them in a smaller venue.
i'm looking forward to delta spirit as openers. i've seen them as openers 3 times now and i like them more and more.
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Looking forward to the Delta Spirit as well. Heard good things.
The Shins at DAR just doesn't sound right. This band is totally made for small venues. Saw them at Congress Theatre in Chicago in 05, about as small as it gets for big indie. EPIC.
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Just got back. Really good set. No Kissing The Lipless, but other than that everything you'd expect to hear was played. Very heavy on Oh, Inverted World and the latest LP, as you might imagine.
The "new" band sounds really tight and it was a good show, but I couldn't help thinking that if they'd turn the instruments down about 25% and James sang like he did on the album instead of yelling half the songs, it'd be much better. But oh well.
Delta Spirit were OK, but nothing out-of-this-world. Kind of reminded me of Cold War Kids at times.
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Delta Spirit were OK, but nothing out-of-this-world. Kind of reminded me of Cold War Kids at times.
ha -- the first time i saw delta spirit, they opened for tokyo police club who opened for cold war kids. this was just over two years ago at 930. at the end of CWK's set, just about everyone and their manager came back on stage to sing the last CWK song. that was pretty cool.
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Pretty awesome to hear Weird Divide. Sweet song, always wondered why they never played it live in the past. And god, Sleeping Lessons is epic. But it was all gravy after they played Gone for Good.
The new Shins get five-stars from me. How can you honestly not like the Shins?
BTW, thanks to whoever recommended Delta Spirit. I will definitely be checking them out again in the future. Great shit.
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Well that the was the tightest and most polished show I've seen the Shins perform. It's funny, they start of kind of slow, but then they settle into it and I would say that by "Sea Legs" they really hit their stride. The rest of the show was great. OK, the cover of The Beta Band's "Dry the Rain" absolutely blew me away, and I know this will sound weird but that was the best moment of the night, though "New Slang" was sublime and the version of "Those to Come" was pretty spectacular too. Always happy to hear "Saint Simon", and "Weird Divide" was a nice bonus. "One by One All Day" is terrific in concert, reminds me of when I saw them play it at the Hollywood Bowl w/Belle and Sebastian. Great song. The Delta Spirit know how to play, they're not really my cup of tea but they're a great opening band. Very cool show. The new Shins lineup is a definite improvement and I can see them doing great things on a new record.
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Yeah, Delta Spirit were great. Also my first time hearing them.
"Dry the Rain" cover was awesome.
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delta spirit were pretty money. this is the third time i've seen them and they sound better and better each time. it seems like everyone in the band is some kind of percussionist and they're good at moving people around. "people, turn around" sounded excellent.
i enjoyed the shins but they didn't grab me as much as i thought they would. they sounded better than when i saw them at DAR two years ago. they were really tight, very polished, and i loved hearing older songs (and covers!). "sleeping lessons" was excellent.but they didn't have some of the energy i expected. however, this might have been me:
1. i was on the rail in the balcony. while it offers a great view, it's somewhat detaching from the rest of the club. i've thought this before and last night reinforced that.
2. i wore earplugs. while i could still hear everything just fine, it's also somewhat detaching. however, i value my hearing.
3. every time i looked at the band, i was completely distracted by how ridiculously tall the bassist is.
anyway, i had a good time. the new songs sound pretty good and i'm looking forward to a new cd.
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delta spirit were pretty money. this is the third time i've seen them and they sound better and better each time. it seems like everyone in the band is some kind of percussionist and they're good at moving people around. "people, turn around" sounded excellent.
i enjoyed the shins but they didn't grab me as much as i thought they would. they sounded better than when i saw them at DAR two years ago. they were really tight, very polished, and i loved hearing older songs (and covers!). "sleeping lessons" was excellent.but they didn't have some of the energy i expected. however, this might have been me:
1. i was on the rail in the balcony. while it offers a great view, it's somewhat detaching from the rest of the club. i've thought this before and last night reinforced that.
2. i wore earplugs. while i could still hear everything just fine, it's also somewhat detaching. however, i value my hearing.
3. every time i looked at the band, i was completely distracted by how ridiculously tall the bassist is.
anyway, i had a good time. the new songs sound pretty good and i'm looking forward to a new cd.
I agree with the Shins being very tight and polished and rocking, but just not grabbing me. Just didn't seem to have much passion. I'm sure they were giving it their all, it was pretty obvious.. it just didn't project at all. Hard to knock a show in which they didn't do a thing wrong, so I'm trying to avoid that, but something with the energy just wasn't there until sleeping lessons and then it was too late.
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Funny...I have come to expect little from the Shins in concert, which is why last night was such a surprise. I think they've got the right band members now to become the band that people expect to see. I'd go see them again. Granted, they're still not quite there yet, but I think that James Mercer knew their limitations in the old lineup, and he's trying to get there.
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Set list:
Onion
Australia
Pam/phantom
St simon
Red rabbits
Double bubble
Sea legs
Girl inform me
Weird divide
Gone for good
1x1
girl don't tell me
fool of a martyr
girl on a wing
hi horse
fool of a martyr
new slang
caring is creepy
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dry/those to come/sleeping
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Oh, and rack Dave breaking out the Joe Walsh. I have a boot of theirs where they break out Holy Diver. Pretty funny.
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That Richmond setlist was alot different, or at least completely differently ordered. Our encore was New Slang, Know Your Onion, Helpless [Neil Young].
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hopefully they didn't butcher the Beta Band song ;)
I found a Shins t-shirt just outside the venue last night. If you can tell me the color and size of it, it's all yours.
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That Richmond setlist was alot different, or at least completely differently ordered. Our encore was New Slang, Know Your Onion, Helpless [Neil Young].
I'm not a Shins fan, but Helpless is a terrific song. How was that cover?
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That Richmond setlist was alot different, or at least completely differently ordered. Our encore was New Slang, Know Your Onion, Helpless [Neil Young].
I'm not a Shins fan, but Helpless is a terrific song. How was that cover?
Actually probably the worst thing of the night. I like the song but their version wasn't particularly true to the original and his voice didn't fit at all.
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hopefully they didn't butcher the Beta Band song ;)
I found a Shins t-shirt just outside the venue last night. If you can tell me the color and size of it, it's all yours.
Think they had cheat sheets for the chord changes.
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i enjoyed the shins but they didn't grab me as much as i thought they would.
it's also somewhat detaching. however, i value my hearing.
3. every time i looked at the band, i was completely distracted by how ridiculously tall the bassist is.
I had some of the same thoughts. I don't know why but they didn't engage me at all. Could have been the off night I had outside the club (traffic, rain, random pedestrians being annoying and the club being hot, muggy and the crowd was a bit scattered and crowded at the same time. I tried to focus on the show, but the Shins never reeled me in. I don't think it was just the heat. 930 - a little a/c please? I smelled like sweat when I went home and it wasn't mine.
I've never seen them live, but from what I can tell, I like the new line up. Pretty talented and I think it sounded a bit more edgy. That's when I think they were at their best last night. I didn't know enough of those songs though..
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It was unusually hot in there last night.
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AC came on a bit late. Still I have to say the Shins did not get me. I saw them at Merriweather and it was a "WOW!" show. This one was more meh. The main guy's guitar was too loud and too not like the CDs. It was not that loud a show, reasonable, but then again I saw Lady Soveriegn, Fisherspooner and The Crystal Method this week...
I am not sold on the new guys, but did they get rid of the guy who beat the girlfriend up?
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Still I have to say the Shins did not get me. I saw them at Merriweather and it was a "WOW!" show. This one was more meh.
i agree. i connected to the music much more at that merriweather show. didn't hurt that spoon had opened. i did like delta spirit though and will make a point of seeing them the next time they're in town.
did they get rid of the guy who beat the girlfriend up?
yup!
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too not like the CDs.
Thank god. What would be the point of going to live shows then? You could just stay at home with your friends and listen to the album.
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Wish I had. Sir HC is on to something w/ the "meh" of this show...I think I left before the a/c came on - over it.
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too not like the CDs.
Thank god. What would be the point of going to live shows then?
I enjoy when someone brings something new to the song, but when it strays in an annoying way, and sounds poorly mixed, I am not happy. His guitar was too loud. It did not sit in the mix. I guess this is part of my geekness at shows, I hate when the guitars or keys or something does not sound like what the band used on CD that I did enjoy, grow, do something new, but within the constraints of your sound. Sort of like Beck redoing Mellow Gold to bleep the cuss words.
You could just stay at home with your friends and listen to the album.
That is what I did Friday, was going to go to the Ramshead show.