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Title: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: mjobrien on August 05, 2009, 01:15:18 pm
What's good 930 followers?

I just finished remixing a Neil Young Hip Hop record, Beats Never RustTo celebrate this monumental event in my life I am encouraging fans of Neil, hip hop, and classic rock- as well as eclectic music lovers- to share this moment.  I posted a myspace page where you can listen to the whole album, including a link to download the album for free.  I guarantee it's not any worse than anything else on the internet.

Cheers!
Mike O'Brien

http://www.myspace.com/beatsneverrust

Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: walkonby on August 05, 2009, 03:25:17 pm
have you seen the new nas/nick cannon psa about the decline of hip hop?  i could not believe they were allowed to get away with that.  sorry, i know that nothing to do with neil young or what you have done here.  carry on.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 05, 2009, 03:27:09 pm
Hip hop is poor people music. Try getting a job so you can afford some instruments and make real music instead of making some Canadian guy sing about bitches and hoes.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: walkonby on August 05, 2009, 03:30:13 pm
Hip hop is poor people music. Try getting a job so you can afford some instruments and make real music instead of making some Canadian guy sing about bitches and hoes.

(http://i243.photobucket.com/albums/ff93/greengiantxxl/YouMad.jpg)
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Dojokoto on August 05, 2009, 03:34:02 pm
Hip hop is poor people music. Try getting a job so you can afford some instruments and make real music instead of making some Canadian guy sing about bitches and hoes.

HAHAHAHA, I'm sorry what? Hip Hop is poor people music? You must be the most ignorant, uneducated people I've ever met. Hip Hop isn't poor people music, YOU sound like you're part of the poor people renegade. Jesus Christ, I had to see it to believe it.

What can you expect from a white person named "Julian, Certified Weblebrity"
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: vansmack on August 05, 2009, 03:40:03 pm
While I don't agree with Julian, your incorrect use of people vs. person makes me question whether or not you are indeed qualified to decide when it is appropriate or not to use the adjective "uneducated" when describing someone else.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: walkonby on August 05, 2009, 03:44:15 pm
While I don't agree with Julian, your incorrect use of people vs. person makes me question whether or not you are indeed qualified to decide when it is appropriate or not to use the adjective "uneducated" when describing someone else.

(http://pussycam.sunk.org/images/caption011709.jpg)
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 05, 2009, 03:53:12 pm
Dojokoto is pure comedic gold.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 05, 2009, 04:02:09 pm
HAHAHAHA, I'm sorry what? Hip Hop is poor people music? You must be the most ignorant, uneducated people I've ever met. Hip Hop isn't poor people music, YOU sound like you're part of the poor people renegade. Jesus Christ, I had to see it to believe it.

What can you expect from a white person named "Julian, Certified Weblebrity"
The popularity of hiphop in a community, along with standardized test scores, levels of obesity, occurrences of teenage pregnancy, and military enlistment rates all directly correlate to community income levels. Try taking the statistics class in your Dangerous Minds-esque public high school, if one is offered, and become educated yourself on topics before your spout off at the mouth.

Oh, and by the way, if you're still trying to get a ticket for VFest Baltimore, I see VFest Montreal still has tickets available, which you can no doubt use! Better! Get! On It!!
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 05, 2009, 04:05:06 pm
Oh, and by the way, if you're still trying to get a ticket for VFest Baltimore, I see VFest Montreal still has tickets available, which you can no doubt use! Better! Get! On It!!
Are they OFFICIAL tickets?
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 05, 2009, 04:08:23 pm
The kid working the ticketmaster counter at my local Fashion Park DID say he could scribble the word 'OFFICIAL' on the tickets in crayon for a nominal extra fee.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Sage 703 on August 05, 2009, 04:08:56 pm
The popularity of hiphop in a community, along with standardized test scores, levels of obesity, occurrences of teenage pregnancy, and military enlistment rates all directly correlate to community income levels.

I was all prepared to give you the benefit of the doubt and assume your first comment was snark for the sake of snark.  And then you go and say this.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: peabody on August 05, 2009, 04:12:10 pm
idt this person understands how long a chain of snark julian is willing to link together. his whole person is tongue in check.  :D
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 05, 2009, 04:15:06 pm
idt this person understands how long a chain of snark julian is willing to link together. his whole person is tongue in check.  :D
What? You better keep your own tongue in check, at least until you learn the expression "tongue in cheek." Hope I'm not hurting your self of steem there, kid.

I would ask what the hell is up with this thread, but I blame only myself for not seeing that a thread entitled "Neil Young hip-hop album" would be an idiot magnet.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: thirsty moore on August 05, 2009, 04:24:13 pm
This thread's got legs.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: sweetcell on August 05, 2009, 04:33:23 pm
This thread's got legs.

but they're probably not skinny enough for julian.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: chaz on August 05, 2009, 04:33:55 pm
Paging Dojokoto:

Please return to this thread for more abuse.



self of steem.  nice one.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 05, 2009, 04:38:31 pm
Dojokoto should really post in every thread, I think.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: slappy on August 05, 2009, 04:45:15 pm
self of steem.  nice one.

Didn't they play the last OzzFest on the stage in-between the piercing pagoda and the chicken finger food stand?
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: walkonby on August 05, 2009, 09:47:32 pm
have you seen the new nas/nick cannon psa about the decline of hip hop?  i could not believe they were allowed to get away with that.  sorry, i know that nothing to do with neil young or what you have done here.  carry on.

seeing how this thread came to a screaming halt . . . and nobody answered my question.  here it is.  priceless, stupid, or shocking?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVqVwGWocM
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: mjobrien on August 05, 2009, 10:06:52 pm
So, did anyone check out the music?
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 05, 2009, 10:10:21 pm
This may just be the awkward white guy inside me, but how does one correctly respond to the "what's good?" greeting?

If I say "not much" it sounds depressing.  So what should be said?
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: mjobrien on August 05, 2009, 10:14:08 pm
have you seen the new nas/nick cannon psa about the decline of hip hop?  i could not believe they were allowed to get away with that.  sorry, i know that nothing to do with neil young or what you have done here.  carry on.

seeing how this thread came to a screaming halt . . . and nobody answered my question.  here it is.  priceless, stupid, or shocking?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRVqVwGWocM

Well, I personally wouldn't call it priceless, stupid, or shocking but it is worth two minutes of your day and possibly sending to a friend or two.  It's not really saying anything new unless you haven't seen Spike Lee's Bamboozled, but it is an interesting message slightly blown out of proportion.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: mjobrien on August 05, 2009, 10:19:27 pm
This may just be the awkward white guy inside me, but how does one correctly respond to the "what's good?" greeting?

If I say "not much" it sounds depressing.  So what should be said?

I'd go with "Same ol'" even if it's not the case.  I feel the greeting "What's good?" puts more positive thoughts in your head than the worn out "What's up?" and thus, will lead to a better mood.

The question was rhetorical by the way.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: sweetcell on August 05, 2009, 10:46:37 pm
"what's good?"

"life!"

or is that too ghay?  you could dork it up by instead saying "life, the universe, everything!"
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 05, 2009, 10:47:47 pm
So, did anyone check out the music?
Son, did you ever come to the wrong place...
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 05, 2009, 10:48:27 pm
"what's good?"

"life!"

or is that too ghay?  you could dork it up by instead saying "life, the universe, everything!"
"What's good?" "Your mom!" --> the 14 y.o. male response.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Dojokoto on August 05, 2009, 11:39:21 pm
HAHAHAHA, I'm sorry what? Hip Hop is poor people music? You must be the most ignorant, uneducated people I've ever met. Hip Hop isn't poor people music, YOU sound like you're part of the poor people renegade. Jesus Christ, I had to see it to believe it.

What can you expect from a white person named "Julian, Certified Weblebrity"
The popularity of hiphop in a community, along with standardized test scores, levels of obesity, occurrences of teenage pregnancy, and military enlistment rates all directly correlate to community income levels. Try taking the statistics class in your Dangerous Minds-esque public high school, if one is offered, and become educated yourself on topics before your spout off at the mouth.

Oh, and by the way, if you're still trying to get a ticket for VFest Baltimore, I see VFest Montreal still has tickets available, which you can no doubt use! Better! Get! On It!!

Alright, so you are basing your decision off a correlation of standardized test scores, and the popularity of hiphop? I'm going to admit that rap these days is pure vile. The average teenage-esque audience will love a song about obtaining cars and money, and the occasional "half-naked ladies up in the pool." Have you ever listened to a song by Rakim? Nas? Atmopshere? Aesop Rock? Grandmaster Flash? You can't judge a genre of music based on statistics. Music is an artistic form of auditory communication that can intertwine with one's life. Everyone has different tastes, and if one dislikes a certain genre of music, then you need to propose a decent legitimate argument to support your thesis. It seems like you are not analyzing the music itself, but you are relying on fundamental statistics to oppose hip-hop?? Rap and the hip hop culture was founded on people who vent their anger by rapping poetry about their experiences/horrors/problems. If you ever listened to a song by Nas, he discusses about his life on the streets, the problematic situations he had to live through. One man with one mic facing the vibe of a crowd on a stage is more difficult than some punk-ass band you love (Probably O.A.R. since you're more white than Ryan Seacrest.)

Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 06, 2009, 12:14:20 am
HAHAHAHA, I'm sorry what? Hip Hop is poor people music? You must be the most ignorant, uneducated people I've ever met. Hip Hop isn't poor people music, YOU sound like you're part of the poor people renegade. Jesus Christ, I had to see it to believe it.

What can you expect from a white person named "Julian, Certified Weblebrity"
The popularity of hiphop in a community, along with standardized test scores, levels of obesity, occurrences of teenage pregnancy, and military enlistment rates all directly correlate to community income levels. Try taking the statistics class in your Dangerous Minds-esque public high school, if one is offered, and become educated yourself on topics before your spout off at the mouth.

Oh, and by the way, if you're still trying to get a ticket for VFest Baltimore, I see VFest Montreal still has tickets available, which you can no doubt use! Better! Get! On It!!

Alright, so you are basing your decision off a correlation of standardized test scores, and the popularity of hiphop? I'm going to admit that rap these days is pure vile. The average teenage-esque audience will love a song about obtaining cars and money, and the occasional "half-naked ladies up in the pool." Have you ever listened to a song by Rakim? Nas? Atmopshere? Aesop Rock? Grandmaster Flash? You can't judge a genre of music based on statistics. Music is an artistic form of auditory communication that can intertwine with one's life. Everyone has different tastes, and if one dislikes a certain genre of music, then you need to propose a decent legitimate argument to support your thesis. It seems like you are not analyzing the music itself, but you are relying on fundamental statistics to oppose hip-hop?? Rap and the hip hop culture was founded on people who vent their anger by rapping poetry about their experiences/horrors/problems. If you ever listened to a song by Nas, he discusses about his life on the streets, the problematic situations he had to live through. One man with one mic facing the vibe of a crowd on a stage is more difficult than some punk-ass band you love (Probably O.A.R. since you're more white than Ryan Seacrest.)


You have much to learn.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: mjobrien on August 06, 2009, 12:24:34 am
No, honestly, does anyone come here to talk music or is it just a place to argue who's e-cock is bigger?
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 06, 2009, 12:25:41 am
The second option.
The one with the e-cock.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Dojokoto on August 06, 2009, 12:51:25 am
The second option.
The one with the e-cock.

you have So much to listen to.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: gaaaaaaaaah on August 06, 2009, 12:56:48 am
The second option.
The one with the e-cock.

you have So much to listen to.
My views on hip hop aren't particularly controversial.

I like some of it, and don't like a larger amount of it.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: sweetcell on August 06, 2009, 01:18:42 am
No, honestly, does anyone come here to talk music or is it just a place to argue who's e-cock is bigger?

we talk about good music, hence the tangents this thread has gone on.



edit: now that i've got my cheap shot in, i can comment on the music.  interesting, although occasionally uneven: at times there is a rich re-working of the original material (pretty piano), at others there is merely a kick/snare combo added underneath.  i wouldn't call this a hip hop album, more like a remix album.  worth the download.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: chaz on August 06, 2009, 10:23:58 am
HAHAHAHA, I'm sorry what? Hip Hop is poor people music? You must be the most ignorant, uneducated people I've ever met. Hip Hop isn't poor people music, YOU sound like you're part of the poor people renegade. Jesus Christ, I had to see it to believe it.

What can you expect from a white person named "Julian, Certified Weblebrity"
The popularity of hiphop in a community, along with standardized test scores, levels of obesity, occurrences of teenage pregnancy, and military enlistment rates all directly correlate to community income levels. Try taking the statistics class in your Dangerous Minds-esque public high school, if one is offered, and become educated yourself on topics before your spout off at the mouth.

Oh, and by the way, if you're still trying to get a ticket for VFest Baltimore, I see VFest Montreal still has tickets available, which you can no doubt use! Better! Get! On It!!

Alright, so you are basing your decision off a correlation of standardized test scores, and the popularity of hiphop? I'm going to admit that rap these days is pure vile. The average teenage-esque audience will love a song about obtaining cars and money, and the occasional "half-naked ladies up in the pool." Have you ever listened to a song by Rakim? Nas? Atmopshere? Aesop Rock? Grandmaster Flash? You can't judge a genre of music based on statistics. Music is an artistic form of auditory communication that can intertwine with one's life. Everyone has different tastes, and if one dislikes a certain genre of music, then you need to propose a decent legitimate argument to support your thesis. It seems like you are not analyzing the music itself, but you are relying on fundamental statistics to oppose hip-hop?? Rap and the hip hop culture was founded on people who vent their anger by rapping poetry about their experiences/horrors/problems. If you ever listened to a song by Nas, he discusses about his life on the streets, the problematic situations he had to live through. One man with one mic facing the vibe of a crowd on a stage is more difficult than some punk-ass band you love (Probably O.A.R. since you're more white than Ryan Seacrest.)



Any argument you make is rendered irrelevant by your hilarious assumption that a ticket purchased for Rams Head Live will get you into 9:30.  Please move to the back of the line.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 06, 2009, 10:33:41 am
No, honestly, does anyone come here to talk music or is it just a place to argue who's e-cock is bigger?
3% show listings/asking seth to book certain bands, 7% cat pictures, 90% e-cock fights.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface on August 06, 2009, 10:37:50 am
No, honestly, does anyone come here to talk music or is it just a place to argue who's e-cock is bigger?

we talk about good music, hence the tangents this thread has gone on.



edit: now that i've got my cheap shot in, i can comment on the music. 

No, sweetcell, this is how we cheapshot:

What's good 930 followers?
Not your record.
Title: Re: Neil Young hip-hop album
Post by: mjobrien on August 06, 2009, 11:45:23 am
Thanks for listening, Sweetcell, I appreciate the feedback.  I like your insight on the "non hip-hop-iness" of the record.  The beat maker is a hip-hop producer and I'm a Neil fan pushing him to expand his boundaries and with that the songs don't come off sounding like straight up Rza beats.  For years he's been making 1 minute "loops" which, in all honesty are hotter than the remixes, but I encouraged him to branch out and experiment.

I'm with you with the "pretty piano" comment- the highlights of the album, in my opinion, come from string quartet & piano tributes mixed into originals.  Hence, Southern Man and Heart of Gold being strong points on the album.  Ohio also does this but it's a quick & simple ditty.

Mere kick/snare combo?  You must be referring to Cortez the Killer which I admit doesn't stray too far from the original.  In defense, it's almost as if we're acting the part of Crazy Horse: playing a simple backdrop while Neil goes to town.  We tried upping the track a little bit by adding a trumpet player, but it's not as effective as Heart of Gold.

Another example of the lack of re-working is A Man Needs A Maid, which we cut in about 40 minutes, but I feel is the most hip-hop sounding track on the record. Sped up orchestra sample? Yes sir.

I enjoyed your comments, though.  It's more useful to hear honest opinions rather than "good work dude." Nice cheap-shot, by the way.  :)