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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Vas Deferens on April 21, 2006, 04:37:00 pm
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Thinking of seeing NIN there.....what does everyone think of this venue? :)
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Nissan makes DAR look good.
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I really want to go to this show but because it's at Nissan, I won't even consider going!
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can you be specific as to why you're avoiding this venue??
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Never been to Nissan, can tell ya though, NIN rocked at the MCI Center not too long ago.
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I drive a Saturn.
Originally posted by Joe M.:
can you be specific as to why you're avoiding this venue??
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it takes 3 hours to get there and 6 hours to get back.
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
Never been to Nissan, can tell ya though, NIN rocked at the MCI Center not too long ago.
Honestly, I haven't been either but I stopped going to the Cap Center many years before they tore that place down and I equate them to similiar experiences. Have heard and read a whole lot of things about the place that fit exactly everything that I hate about large arenas. You are just way too far away, sound often echos or gets lost, the crowds are too much for me, and the parking is insane. Plus, you usually pay much more for a ticket without the intimacy of smaller venues. The 9:30 Club is about the largest that I prefer to go. But that's just me.
I might consider MCI, which I've never been to either, for a rare occassion but haven't the slightest desire to ever venture into the Nissan experience. It would take all of the original Beatles; early days style; performing for me to take the plunge.
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Didn't you already see that the first time around?
Originally posted by Jaguar:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
[qb] . It would take all of the original Beatles; early days style; performing for me to take the plunge. [/b]
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WORST. VENUE. EVER.
It's oversized, over priced, impossible to get to, and impossible to get out of. It once took me 3 hours to get home from a sold out show there. And I lived in Manassas at the time.
The quality of concessions is below average even for a big corporate amphitheatre.
You cannot escape the corporate sponsorships as you are bombarded from every angle (much like at FedEx Field.)
The entire environment is stale and decidedly un-rock and roll.
Now, having said all that...the sound is quite good for an outdoor venue and the projection screens are good enough that even lawn seats aren't bad.
The actual concert experience is fine but the amount of frustration you'll experience before and after might affect the fondness of your memories.
If you really love the band, the quality of venue shouldn't deter you. But if you are on the fence, this is a really lousy place to see a show. If you go, take the afternoon off and leave an hour earlier than you were planning.
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakajima, Fired by Mascis:
Didn't you already see that the first time around?
Originally posted by Jaguar:
Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
[qb] . It would take all of the original Beatles; early days style; performing for me to take the plunge. [/b]
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Nope. This may shock you but I was too young.
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Six hours to drive to from College Park. Only one hour back, but that was after sleeping in the car for three hours after the show. Not worth it. Unless you happen to live in Bristow, VA, I guess. But even then it might even take hours to get there... Otherwise, it was OK.
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Getting to and from Nissan is the main issue.
The NIN show is on a weekday. You can assume it will take approximately three hours to get there from DC. That's no hyperbole. Getting home might be a little better, but it will still take you an hour or so to get out of the lot after the show. Since the parking attendants are hourly employees, I think Nissan lets them off as soon as the show starts. So it's a big clusterfuck when the show lets out.
The acoustics inside are like a big tent, but no more horrible than any other big venue. If you are in the front section of the pavilion, it's okay. The lawn is worthless in my opinion.
If you really want to see this show and you can leave work/school early and don't mind hanging out in the parking lot for an hour after the show and you have good pavilion seats, then go for it.
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Yeah as mentioned, its such a hassle to get there and back. Especially this year with gas prices the way they are, I'm even less excited about the place...even with a few shows I wouldn't mind checking out.
Once you're there, it's not so bad...typical, if not generic amphitheater setup. Good sound, good projection, way overpriced beer.
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Don't forget the sobriety roadblocks that the Prince William County boys in blue routinely set up after big shows. Like shooting fish in a barrell and those fuckin' bullets hurt!
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My thoughts about Nissan is that there is absolutely no band in the world that could possibly be worth going there again, ever.
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Ok thank you all for your input. It looks like Depeche Mode is playing there on a weekend...so I might consider that instead.
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i would go there only in a helicopter.
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BOYCOTT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
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Didn't Clear Channel say a long time ago that they were going to get crews to widen the roads and such? Yet another load of garbage from their mouths, I'd imagine.
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Originally posted by Jaguar:
Honestly, I haven't been either but I stopped going to the Cap Center many years before they tore that place down and I equate them to similiar experiences. Have heard and read a whole lot of things about the place that fit exactly everything that I hate about large arenas. You are just way too far away, sound often echos or gets lost, the crowds are too much for me, and the parking is insane. Plus, you usually pay much more for a ticket without the intimacy of smaller venues. The 9:30 Club is about the largest that I prefer to go. But that's just me.
I might consider MCI, which I've never been to either, for a rare occassion but haven't the slightest desire to ever venture into the Nissan experience. It would take all of the original Beatles; early days style; performing for me to take the plunge. [/QB]
As far as arenas go, you may want to consider Patriot Center. while the acoustics in nearly every arena ever are pretty much a lost cause, the Patriot Center's never been too bad for me.
Plus, since it's an older arena, and a collega arena, it's not too overly huge, either.
As far as Nissan goes (granted I'm biased here, as I still consider myself a member of the 9:30/IMP family, even in Atlanta), literally give yourself at least 3 hours, and don't be surprised if it turns into more, to get there. There's one two-lane road to get there. Sure, you can come in from either direction, but it's still just a two-lane road (after you've spent forever on 66).
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
Nissan makes DAR look good.
i don't know if i'd go that far, but i'd definitely drive farther away rather than go to nissan (i live ~1.5-2hrs from nissan)
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Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
it takes 3 hours to get there and 6 hours to get back.
thats just simply hilarious!!!!
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It has the same problems any big venue will have. Long lines for the pisser and big prices for everything. I've been there a few times and I don't recall the sound being any crappier than any other big venue. Same goes with the parking - stuff like that is to be expected. I'd still see a show there if I'm crazy about the artist but I end up paying some insane price for excellent seats. And as someone without tons of dough to throw around, that means I don't go there often.
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i have NEVER EVER sat in traffic for more than 30 minutes either coming to or leaving Merriweather.
ever.
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I think overall, the hassles of nissan, suchas Traffic, only 2 exits, and crazy prices for food, really out-weigh the good you get out of the show.
I was considering nine inch nails. because i really want to see them live and i haven't yet. Plus i wouldn't mind seeing Bauhaus and TVOTR either. but i'm really on the fence. just because it's nissan
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Originally posted by jesse:
I think overall, the hassles of nissan, suchas Traffic, only 2 exits, and crazy prices for food, really out-weigh the good you get out of the show.
anyone who goes to concerts for the food really creeps me out! ;)
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i woke up on my bus less than 50 yards from the stage at nissan, and i was afraid it was still going to take me an hour to get there.
actually, that day was just fine. every other time i've been there was a royal pain in the ass, no matter how early i went or how late i stayed.
i've been to almost every major amphitheater in this country, and they're all essentially the same from the audience's perspective. personal bias aside, merriweather is one of maybe three that stand out as something different (in a good way). the others are the shoreline amphiteatre near san fransisco and the blossom music center in cuyahoga falls, ohio. most of the others are just a blur.
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Why would you drink and drive in the first place?
Originally posted by mrpee:
Don't forget the sobriety roadblocks that the Prince William County boys in blue routinely set up after big shows. Like shooting fish in a barrell and those fuckin' bullets hurt!
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Originally posted by thatguy:
i've been to almost every major amphitheater in this country, and they're all essentially the same from the audience's perspective. personal bias aside, merriweather is one of maybe three that stand out as something different (in a good way). the others are the shoreline amphiteatre near san fransisco and the blossom music center in cuyahoga falls, ohio. most of the others are just a blur.
Alpine Valley is nice. Deer Creek too, from what I recall. Jones Beach is interesting, if nothing else. But yeah - most of them are pretty much the same. We're lucky to have MPP and Wolf Trap in our area.
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thoughts on Nissan?
I would get sued
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Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
i have NEVER EVER sat in traffic for more than 30 minutes either coming to or leaving Merriweather.
ever.
Ditto.
Park at the mall. Walk 5 or 10 minutes to get back to your car after the concert and then I'm on 29 back to Baltimore in another 5 mintes.
It would take the act of some imaginary godlike figure, with me living in Baltimore, to get me to go to Nissan. It's just not worth the hassle
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I agree with everyone. Avoid Nissan completely. All it takes is one horrible experience and then you'll hate it as much as the rest of us.
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Originally posted by Lamb007:
If you really love the band, the quality of venue shouldn't deter you. But if you are on the fence, this is a really lousy place to see a show. If you go, take the afternoon off and leave an hour earlier than you were planning.
The only problem with that is when you go to see your favorite band, leave about four hours before the show starts (from Bethesda...i.e. 10 minutes from DC), and it takes you nearly SIX to get to the venue and you miss all but two songs by your favorite band.
It's only been that bad once, but it's always still pretty bad. It should take less than an hour to get there and instead, it always takes 2-3-6. and then there's getting out of the shows. it's just...it's a real pain, and it's getting really old for us to have to drive down there and it keeps getting worse each time.
again, if it's one of your favorite bands...do it. but take the day off.
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PS Next time we decided we're going to segway. It will actually be way faster. And I'm not kidding...
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Let's see. 7 years ago I saw Dylan and Paul Simon at Nissan. Great show and stayed until the bitter end. Afterwards, it took 3 hours to leave the parking lot as EVERY parked car (7,000?) funneled there way to what appeared to be ONE exit. It was the most enfuriating, painful, sh*tty way to end the night.
I had tickets to see DMB there two weeks later. The place was packed, bursting at the seams. From the moment the concert started, we tried to guess when it would end so we could get the f*ck out of there. After about 2 hours we literally started running for the car. we booked out of there and were on the highway within 20 minutes. FREEDOM! Of course, we missed the last 7 songs of the show.
Add the fact that the place is a soulless corporate void that has no redeeming qualities and its hard to like Nissan.
If the show isn't crowded, that's helpful. But, if you go to packed show there I'd research online what setlists the band is playing and be prepared to leave pre-encore. It takes the fun out of the show but you've got to be in self-preservation mode and plan every move.
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Segway, huh? You really do live in Bethesda...
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Nice venue, but the traveling time is absurd.
:)
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ever seen nisson's parking lot when it rains? how about when it rains during a show and then you go out into the parking lot? clear channel is dropping alot of their prices as show dates near and they have lots of seats left.
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Originally posted by Bombay Chutney:
Alpine Valley is nice. Deer Creek too, from what I recall. Jones Beach is interesting, if nothing else. But yeah - most of them are pretty much the same. We're lucky to have MPP and Wolf Trap in our area.
i forgot about alpine valley. for the audience, that place did seem nice. backstage was weird. it's built on a big ass hill. the stage and all of the decks and such are level, but everything else is on a ridiculous slope. makes it a pain to get around. hell, it was a pain to just stand still that day. ever try to stand on a steep incline for any extended time? my calves were killing me. that, and you have to park your bus way down at the bottom of the hill and take a shuttle van back and forth.
jones beach has a great view behind the stage, but otherwise i wasn't impressed. they do host the least appealing way to get backstage, though. once the crowd is in, there's only one way back there that doesn't involve going through the crowd. you have to go down a couple flights of stairs to pass through a dank, wet, smelly, rat infested hallway that leads under the crowd and the water, and back up the stairs at the other end. not pleasant at all.
didn't hit deer creek.
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Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
Originally posted by jesse:
I think overall, the hassles of nissan, suchas Traffic, only 2 exits, and crazy prices for food, really out-weigh the good you get out of the show.
anyone who goes to concerts for the food really creeps me out! ;) [/b]
haha. well i've been to warped tour a few times, and that's an all day thing, and you gotta eat something.
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Originally posted by jesse:
Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
Originally posted by jesse:
I think overall, the hassles of nissan, suchas Traffic, only 2 exits, and crazy prices for food, really out-weigh the good you get out of the show.
anyone who goes to concerts for the food really creeps me out! ;) [/b]
haha. well i've been to warped tour a few times, and that's an all day thing, and you gotta eat something. [/b]
and that was the worst...i passed out at warped tour one year because some asshole in the pit fell on my head, and so we spent disgusting amounts of money on lunch and water (which they wouldn't let us bring in)...i distinctly remember $5 bottles of water being the only shit available. on a day where it's 95 degrees out, that is just sick.
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Its going to be expensive, period. I'm not shocked at all when I see 5.00 water at a place like that, or any large venue, like the sports arenas. Its just something you have to accept. I've been to alot of the bigger pavillion places (on the East Coast, anyway) and they are generally the same. Merriweather is a bit smaller and they have the mini 9:00 Club there, which makes me prefer that place to others. But I don't recall the prices being alot different - I think I paid at least eight bucks for an imported beer last year - maybe more. You just have to buck up and get over it and realize that its a pain in the ass. Some of your favorite acts (and mine) aren't going to play the club circuit forever.
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as a resident of Bristow, I can offer some insight...
shows days makes the traffic INSANE...I've often thought about taking off from work the day Buffet plays because that is the absolute worst traffic of the entire year.
However, I can fill you in on a few things. First off, the roads there are slightly different now. Wellington Road (where Nissan is located on) now has 2 extra options to get out. There are 2 directions to get to route 29/66, and 2 options to get to route 234/66. I don't know EXACTLY how this will help yet though cause there hasn't been a show at Nissan since they redid the roads. Wellington also has 2 lanes for a longer stretch of the road.
Obviously living in Bristow, when I actually go to the shows, its real easy to get there (getting out, as stated, can be a nightmare). I can get to Nissan in under 10 minutes from my house...coming home has taken me as little as 15 minutes, and as much as 90.
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Nissan has been horrible many many times, no doubt.
Maybe when traffic improvements happen over next few years the travel portion can be rectified.
But, concertgoers should note that the management of Nissan, Live Nation did a bunch of surveys and there's lots "fan satisfaction" stuff they are trying to improve.
So.... if you do brave the traffic this year, M-A-Y-B-E there will be a better experience a-waitin'.
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every time you buy a ticket to a venue, you tell that band that it's OK if they play there
they have no way of knowing otherwise
so as much as I hear complaints about venues, they're usually followed by "well...of course...I couldn't miss THAT show"
and that's what bands count on when they play venues they know are bad...that everyone will go anyway
and why shouldn't they?
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
every time you buy a ticket to a venue, you tell that band that it's OK if they play there
they have no way of knowing otherwise
so as much as I hear complaints about venues, they're usually followed by "well...of course...I couldn't miss THAT show"
and that's what bands count on when they play venues they know are bad...that everyone will go anyway
and why shouldn't they?
Agreed, however the marginal shows are where the impact is felt. And with the parity in music (no big band), they are all marginal. I for one get to nissan once a year or so. But (I say this in complete honesty), it would be 3 or 4 if it wasn't for the venue. I can't be the only one.
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All the more reason to support Merriweather and see shows there.
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Which show will I see you at? Fall Out Boy, Gretchen Wilson, O.A.R. or Rob Thomas?
Originally posted by bearman:
All the more reason to support Merriweather and see shows there.
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Originally posted by Seth Hurwitz:
every time you buy a ticket to a venue, you tell that band that it's OK if they play there
they have no way of knowing otherwise
so as much as I hear complaints about venues, they're usually followed by "well...of course...I couldn't miss THAT show"
and that's what bands count on when they play venues they know are bad...that everyone will go anyway
and why shouldn't they?
this is like the post of the YEAR!! (and not just cause its from seth)
I constantly miss shows i want to go to because i dont like things about it. the venue is a big one, i wont go to Nissan and i avoid almost at all costs seated venues, unless its a show i wouldnt mind sitting down for (i think the last seated non-Radiohead show i went to was in 2001).
people say i boycott a lot of things, but Seth is right, if you buy a ticket for a show at Nissan or DAR , you are agreeing with the fact that shows are happening there.
Radiohead breaks all these rules for me. I would see them in a raw sewage plant.
Merriweather, when i attend i get lawn or Pit tickets only.
(speaking of which, saturday night at Merriweather it rained so hard i thought i was at Bull Run!!!)
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I won't go to Nissan to see anyone. Anyone. May as well go to Phillie.
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Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
(speaking of which, saturday night at Merriweather it rained so hard i thought i was at Bull Run!!!)
take the amount of rain on saturday night, multiply by three to five times, and compact the storm into about a two hour time frame. then you'll be a bit closer to what it felt like at bull run.
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Originally posted by thatguy:
Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
(speaking of which, saturday night at Merriweather it rained so hard i thought i was at Bull Run!!!)
take the amount of rain on saturday night, multiply by three to five times, and compact the storm into about a two hour time frame. then you'll be a bit closer to what it felt like at bull run. [/b]
i was at Bull Run....but we were sitting in the car, so i suppose it didnt seem as bad!
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Originally posted by Mike Rohsopht:
i was at Bull Run....but we were sitting in the car, so i suppose it didnt seem as bad!
it probably wasn't as bad as i said it was, but it sure felt like it, and it was definitely way worse than saturday night.
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It's sad - a woman in my office sends out a meeting maker for the Nissan shows so everyone can add it to their calendar in order to avoid the area or plan ahead.
Nothing new to say...Traffic is the #1 reason I won't go there. Also, Nissan doesn't have the lawn (imo) that MPP does.
Took me about an hour to get in, almost three to get out. (This was late, mid-ninities, haven't returned.)
The workers chatted, laughed and stood around watching us try to get out. I was right next to the road, I finally drove over the concrete parking pediment, through the grass onto the curb. Wish I had done it earlier. (Yep, in my little car.)
Another half hour at the stop sign then finally home.
MPP used to be a pain to get to (3 hours in; 1 hour out) but that was years ago. Last time I was there, it was no more than 5-10 to get out and a breeze to the highway. One problem still remains for me is distance & traffic going to the venue, but that's my problem unfortunately. ;)
I agree with Seth. Traveling pains and personal preferences is why I don't go to DAR, Birchmere, or Nissan (even GMU can be a pain). Also, to give someone, anyone, the signal that I won't go there. I don't think anyone is noticing my absence though. ;)
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Originally posted by El Teezer:
I don't think anyone is noticing my absence though. ;)
oh, sweetie, i am sure they are!
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i live in baltimore and am going to the NIN show. however, i'm leaving baltimore at 1pm to avoid everything. and as soon as head like a hole starts i'm out. with that being said i don't think nin will be a problem because tickets seem not to be selling so well.
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I checked out the Nissan for the first time last night (Bruce Springsteen). I had no trouble getting in and getting out, but I did leave in the middle of the last song of the encore (I researched the set list the previous night).
The venue looks great. The sound is 100 times better than the sound at DAR. The walk from the venue to the parking lot is under 5 minutes.
My vote for the worst venue EVER is Shoreline Ampitheater in Northern California. Sound is horrendous; there are no big screens for the lawn people, and the walk to the parking lot is almost half a mile(!)
Bruce was amazing, btw.
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Amen to that, Seth. Sadly, some of my favorites are playing Nissan and DAR...I won't go. Glad this past weekend was okay, but holy cwap - one weeknight show and the full Rt. 66 rush-hour/car wreck/overturned tanker experience and you will give up concerts - other than those at the 930 - forever...and that's just GETTING there. El Tee can talk to the parking lot nightmares!!!!!(Hint: take a potty chair, Antiseptic handy wipes, your mace, a sleep mask, some Valium and at least enuf food for two meals. ;) )
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Originally posted by Bags:
I won't go to Nissan to see anyone. Anyone. May as well go to Phillie.
Same with me. I won't go to any of the outdoor places, simply because of the commute from Cap Hill. But especially Nissan. I did it once, I spent more than 4 hours total in the car and got home three hours before I had to get up. I wouldn't go if my own band was playing there.
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How full was the crowd at Bruce? I did go to Depeche Mode last weekend. While the venue was only 1/2 full, I had NO problem getting in or out. It seems to me they've widened the road in front, have better traffic control and one-way out on the exit.... Also sound was good and staff was helpful. Maybe they are turning the tide.
... and upon entry, we had six people guide my car into the parking spot. I felt like I was parking a 737 at National Airport. Now that's customer service ;)
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This is my 6th summer at Nissan Pavilion and I will defend us to the death. While I understand all the complaints about the roads, that is county, not Nissan. They are improving the roads but at their own pace.
Secondly, we are Live Nation now, not Clear Channel. Live Nation is a guest friendly company. Everything is about the guest. We are a SHOW team now, not staff. We are there for you. If you have a poor experience you are to let us know immediately. Aramark sets the prices for the food, not Nissan. The tours set the prices for tickets, not Nissan. The tours say what can and cannot be brought in on the day of the show, not Nissan. When there are 25,000 people trying to get out of three parking lots, do you really expect to get out in 15 minutes? I have never been to a venue where you can get out that quickly. We do have a young parking staff and they learn more with every show. If we could get the same people back every year, we wouldn't have to start over every season.
In my opinion we have the best lawn. We have a roped off section for families, no smoking or drinking area. We have the best video set up with the large screens so no matter where you sit you can see. We have no bad seat at Nissan.
If I got pissed off about how long it takes to get to and home from a venue in this area, I would never see a live show anywhere.
NIN should be a fine show. It is on a Tuesday night so it shouldn't be a problem getting in and out, if it's not sold out. You will enjoy yourself if you want to, I can promise that. And for all you naysayers out there, give us another chance. We have a new staff at the top, a new company that is a complete 180 from Clear Channel, and if you're not happy, we'll fix it!
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is live nation not another name for clear channel? clear channel had such a negative image they had to change the name to cc and now live nation(?) clear channel owns the venues, books whole tours, owns radio stations, owns sound + lighting companies and maybe ticket sellers. they own all aspects of the live music industry top to bottom. they also force the small promoter out of business like walmart forces small retailers out of business.
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Nope, Clear Channel still exists. Live Nation is completely separate.
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Originally posted by nanjw:
Nope, Clear Channel still exists. Live Nation is completely separate.
Live Nation is a publicly traded company that was spun-off from clear-channel at the end of last year
it is run by the same people that ran clear channel's concerts
the board appears to be controlled by the Mays family, which also controls clear channel
so to call it completely separate may or not be legally accurate
why would the management of Nissan Pavillion be substantially different under the spin-off
never been to Nissan due to the travel time, and they have not missed me
merriweather has always been an easy commute for me from Rockville
philadelphia concerts are more convenient to me as well
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Originally posted by nanjw:
Secondly, we are Live Nation now, not Clear Channel. Live Nation is a guest friendly company. Everything is about the guest.
I too work for a branch of Live Nation but I don't work for the venue. Depeche Mode was my first show under the "new" management and the improvement is immediately noticeable. Perhaps they are trying to compete with the improvements at Merriweather.
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If you go to Nissan, don't be too harsh on the people working concessions. If you notice their name tags, a lot of them are moms and dads and they're volunteers raising money for their kids' sports teams or scout troops. It's sort of ironic, but your beer tips may support a trip to a tournament game or a campout. I know quite a few parents who work concessions there as a fundraiser.
But don't EVER get the popcorn at Nissan. One of those moms told me if they have leftovers, they freeze it and serve it the next day.
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Anything I could possibly add to this thread was already said here...
http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=011313 (http://www.930.com/cgi-bin/ubb-cgi/ultimatebb.cgi?ubb=get_topic;f=1;t=011313)
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every problem at nissan isn't nissan's fault but in the end its a place with lots of problems.
Maybe, just maybe, if the county roads don't support an enjoyable concert experience, a concert venue is not the highest and best use of the land. Do they need anothe walmart out there?
I went to Nissan once last year for Buffet. I don't personally care for him but it was a social obligation of sorts. HORRIBLE. I was parked a few miles away at someone's house and rode in with some friends. After sitting around for two hours, those of us whose cars weren't in the parking lot started walking. It was difficult due to lack of sidewalks and some dark streets but we figured it out.
Driving home, it was funny to see all these drunken losers with all the parrothead shit soaped onto their cars pulled over by the 5-0. Gee, after midnight, you've got parrot crap all over and you're leaving a jimmy buffet concert, i'd say that's probable cause for a DUI right there.
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Clear Channel sued over concert competition (http://news.yahoo.com/s/nm/20060603/music_nm/media_clearchannel_dc)
1 hour, 22 minutes ago
Clear Channel Communications Inc., the No. 1 U.S. radio broadcaster, was accused in a lawsuit on Friday of violating federal anti-trust laws by curtailing concert competition and jacking up ticket prices.
The proposed class-action, filed in Denver federal court, names Clear Channel's broadcasting unit and former concert promotion arm Live Nation Inc. as defendants. It comes three months after a U.S. Justice Department probe into similar matters ended with no action taken against the company.
According to court papers, the suit accuses the defendants of breaking the law by limiting radio airtime for musicians who used competing concert promoters and inflating musicians' fees, "in some cases more than 100 percent of gross sales, in order to exclude competitors from the market."
Clear Channel officials could not immediately be reached for comment. A Live Nation spokesman declined to comment on the suit.
From July 2003 until February 2006, the Justice Department probed allegations that Clear Channel tied radio airplay and the use of concert venues to musicians' use of the companies' concert promotion services.
The lawsuit said the investigation was reportedly discontinued because Clear Channel agreed to spin off Live Nation to become a separately owned company.
"However, Live Nation and Clear Channel Communications Inc. both continue to be dominated by the same individuals," court papers said.
In January, a federal appeals court in New York ruled that the relevant market for concert tickets was local, not national, so Friday's lawsuit is limited to the Denver regional market.
It seeks unspecified monetary damages on behalf of all buyers of tickets to popular music concerts promoted by the defendants from June 1998 to December 2005 in Colorado, parts of Utah, New Mexico, Arizona, Kansas, Wyoming and Nebraska.
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Damn, they lied to us. I still love Nissan.
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I got a free lawn ticket to the Nine Inch Nails show at Nissan in the mail yesterday. Says its Free. and i can buy more at 10% off or something.
is this for real? has anyone else gotten one of these? or what?
Its not like i am going all the way from Baltimore, but just wondering if in fact, it is free. or just a gimmick.
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I got one too...I don't know what the heck is up with it, but if someone wants it, PM me and I'll mail it to you. It's just a lawn seat.
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Nissan Pavilion is dead:
http://www.livenation.com/venue/jiffy-lube-live-details
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hahahah...lube
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Nissan Pavilion is dead:
http://www.livenation.com/venue/jiffy-lube-live-details
worse concert venue name ever? does anyone know of a worse one?
"nissan is a terrible venue" is now "lube is a terrible venue". better yet: "the concert scene in DC would be better without nissan" is now "the concert scene in DC would be better without lube" :D
<insert predictable jokes about trying to squeeze additional shows in to lube... and of course referencing ticket prices>
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...seriously?
That might be the worst corporate venue name I've ever seen.
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i was kinda hoping for trojan vibrating condom pavilion. oh wait . . . viriginia is a piece of shit that doesn't sell them.
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...seriously?
That might be the worst corporate venue name I've ever seen.
Izod Center is pretty lame...
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...seriously?
That might be the worst corporate venue name I've ever seen.
Izod Center is pretty lame...
I think Jiffy Lube Live takes the cake. Or whatever car related pun you choose to use.
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Jiffy Lube Live is hilarious. What does that even mean?? Its so retarded I can't even think of a joke . . .it just creates a nebulous feeling of stale uncomfortableness.
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If they added pavilion to the end, like "Jiffy Lube Live Pavilion," it wouldn't be NEARLY as bad.
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Jiffy Lube Live is hilarious. What does that even mean??
"ram's head live!"
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Ram's Head Live! gets a pass b/c its a satellite of a music club, and the Live!, while ambiguous, at least serves to differentiate it from the Tavern.
Jiffy Lube Live sounds like a touring ice show where the cast of characters perform elaborate ice dances simulating oil changes, lube jobs, pipe cleanings and other double entendre's
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Jiffy Lube Live sounds like a touring ice show where the cast of characters perform elaborate ice dances simulating oil changes, lube jobs, pipe cleanings and other double entendre's
NASCAR meets the Ice Capades.
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Nissan Pavilion is dead:
http://www.livenation.com/venue/jiffy-lube-live-details
worse concert venue name ever? does anyone know of a worse one?
might have one that is worse, or at least comes close: Comfort Dental Amphitheatre. seriously - which marketing idiot was so far up his own navel that he thought that "comfort" and "dental" are two words concert-goers want associated with their venues? really??.
"Yes, Comfort Dental, those sensible purveyors of teeth-cleanings and hugs, picked up the naming rights to Fiddler?s Green last week, because nothing says sex, drugs, and rock ?n? roll like awkward conversation with dental hygienists. " - http://www.avclub.com/denver/articles/the-new-comfort-dental-amphitheatre-as-bad-as-a-ro,37495/
rawk on, america, rawk on.
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might have one that is worse, or at least comes close: Comfort Dental Amphitheatre. seriously - which marketing idiot was so far up his own navel that he thought that "comfort" and "dental" are two words concert-goers want associated with their venues? really??.
"Yes, Comfort Dental, those sensible purveyors of teeth-cleanings and hugs, picked up the naming rights to Fiddler?s Green last week, because nothing says sex, drugs, and rock ?n? roll like awkward conversation with dental hygienists. " - http://www.avclub.com/denver/articles/the-new-comfort-dental-amphitheatre-as-bad-as-a-ro,37495/
rawk on, america, rawk on.
Sounds like a natural place to sell nitrous in the parking lot.
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they will change the oil in your car in the parking lot while you attend the concert. this will be an option
when you purchase a ticket.
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actually, gas stations in lots that sold cigarettes, water, gum, bottle/can cozies, soda, no beer (you have to bring your own), ice . . . seems like a good idea. maybe we need a "chevron post pavilion".