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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Cullens Marvel on September 01, 2009, 09:43:38 am
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What up 930 club?
Show was suppose to start at 7:00pm. Pete Rock, Supernatural, Slum Villiage, Slaughterhouse, and Talib Kweli & Hi-Tek... GREAT LINE UP! Show started at 9:30 and no Slaughterhouse! Everyone that performed put on a great show don't get me wrong, but the energy was obviously not there. I mean accept for dude with the white button down up front! We all love the 930 club and we definetly love Pete Rock, but I dont want to listen to him mix for an hour... after I had to wait around for 2 hours for the show to start! When the main act isn't there I should get a refund. The last two times I've gone to 930 I have been extremely disapointed. I cant believe 930 had Mos Def back after he showed up at 10:30pm to do a 7pm & 9pm show... yeah... on a Monday. I couldnt get a refund that show either, I waited until past midnight to listen to Mos Def rush through weak set... on a Monday!
I know 930 cant control the artist, but they can control customer satifaction. When I go to a show to see an artist and that artist is not there, I should get a refund. When I go to a show and the artist is 4 hours late, I should get a refund. I love 930 club, but the last two times I've attended I have been disappointed.
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Doors were at 7. Nowhere did I see a start time (because the staff more than likely didn't know what it was).
Reflection Eternal were the headliner. They showed up, therefore no refund.
Oh, and the last Mos Def show was great. He clearly did piss off a lot of people (due to circumstances beyond his control) in february given that both feb shows sold out but this recent one never did, though.
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wah
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First things first... Talib put on a great show. Supernat put on a great show. Slum Village put on a great show. But like most people in attendance who have seen Kweli, Slum and Super, I was there to see Slaughterhouse. Talib was the headliner no doubt, but the vibe throughout the show and the talk in the crowd was dissapointment that SlaugtherHouse was not there.
Everyone who bought a ticket knew the show started at 7. For 930 not to know what time the show was suppose to start is silly.
Mos Def has had a reputation for being late for shows and/or not giving his 100% (if anyone saw him at Rock the Bells '08 you know what I mean) for a long time. His recent show not selling out and him not being on the Rock the Bells tour this year (right after he released a new album) is reflectant on such behavior.
Perhaps the blame does not fall entirely on the 930 club because they cannot control the artists, but it is still fustrating that my last two shows at 930 did not live up to the billing. I feel I should be reimbursed for having to wait 4 hours for Mos Def, I wanted my money back so I could go home. I feel like I should be compensated for not getting to see SlaugtherHouse. I paid money for a product that was not recieved last night.
I DONT HAVE TWITTER, SO I HAVE TO VENT SOMEWHERE! THE 930 FORUM
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I cant believe 930 had Mos Def back after he showed up at 10:30pm to do a 7pm & 9pm show... yeah... on a Monday. I couldnt get a refund that show either, I waited until past midnight to listen to Mos Def rush through weak set... on a Monday!
So he only played 1 of the shows when he had 2 scheduled?
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I think if you ask just about anyone they would say 9:30 runs about the tightest ship around when it comes to this stuff. But shit happens that they can't control.
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You don't go to many 930 shows, do you? It's common knowledge that the time on the ticket is the door time. This goes for every show there. 99.9 times out of a hundred, the club gets a list of set times (probably from the acts who are playing) and makes these times known either on the day of the show on the main page or prior if asked in the FAQ section of this forum. Rather than guess on times and be completely wrong (since they didn't know the times or else they would've been posted yesterday), nothing was posted. More than likely, the artists are to blame for this.
Everyone who bought a ticket knew the show started at 7. For 930 not to know what time the show was suppose to start is silly.
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Mos Def did both shows that night in Feb. the 7pm show started at around 11 and the 9 show started around 12:30
I go to 9:30 club fairly often. But last night doors open at 7pm. Supernat starts at 9:30, Pete Rock standing up there playing songs of his Mac for 30-40min. Slum Village comes on, Pete Rock playing songs of his mac for another 30-40 minutes.
I like Pete Rock and the tracks he produces, but there was too much random filler time because... SlaughterHouse was not there.
I enjoy the 930 club, I've seen Common there about 2 or 3 times... Seen the Roots 2 or 3 times... Lupe play both albums last time he was there... Red and Meth tear it down... I saw David Banner jump off the balcony last time Talib was there, but I have been disappointed the last two times I was there. The Mos Def disaster left a bad taste and last night was a let down as well. Anyone actually go to the show last night and felt the any different? Anyone else wait 4 hours for Mos Def in cold ass Feb and didnt get upset?
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Aren't these issues with the artist rather than the venue? Seems like you should take it up with Slaughterhouse.
And its not like last night's artists wanted to go on at 7 and the club wouldn't let them, or that Mos Def wanted to go on on time and the club wouldn't let him. Your musical tastes veer towards artists that don't necessarily give a sh*t about being prompt, showing up, or not pissing you off . . .knowing is half the battle
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I agree that the issues are mostly with the artist, but the venue is whom I pay my money.
Mos Def is the reason I will never attend another Mos Def show not the 930 club...
My issue with 930 is simple. If I arrive at a 9pm show and the artist has not arrived to perform the 7pm show yet, shouldnt I be entitled to a refund so I can go home? I'm not asking for a free concert, just not to wait 4 hours for an artist to arrive.
When I arrived last night and SlaughterHouse was not performing, my frustration is directed at SlaughterHouse. But why can't I get a refund, get back in my car and go home?
I am not a person at a restaurant who eats their entire dish, then complains that I didn't like it and doesnt want to pay. I would rather leave the restaurant before I dine. What is wrong with that?
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For 930 not to know what time the show was suppose to start is silly.
I feel I should be reimbursed for having to wait 4 hours for Mos Def, I wanted my money back so I could go home. I feel like I should be compensated for not getting to see SlaugtherHouse. I paid money for a product that was not recieved last night.
Hip hop acts are notorious for their disregard of show schedules.
If the artists don't feel like going onstage at a reasonable hour there's nothing the club can do about it except wait like everyone else.
The club is still obligated to pay the artists the agreed-upon price for the show even if they arrive late and go onstage late. Slaughterhouse was not the headliner for this show. The headliners performed the date therefore the club has to pay the full guarantee. Your frustration should be directed at the artist who didn't show up, not at the club, which by your own admission has no control over the artists.
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When I arrived last night and SlaughterHouse was not performing, my frustration is directed at SlaughterHouse. But why can't I get a refund, get back in my car and go home?
you realize that sounds a little silly, don't you? "i have a problem with the artist, but i'm expecting the venue to take the hit for it."
don't get me wrong, you definitely have a good reason to be frustrated - but asking the club to make up for the artist's behavior is ludakris.
next time, don't spend your money on these acts. maybe once they start seeing their concert ticket sales diminish, they'll get a clue that people won't put up with such behavior.
aside: why is hip hop beset with such poor punctuality? it is really something as simple as an ego trip? ("this is my gig, people are there to see ME, so *i* call the shots and decide when i go on... those suckaz can wait").
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i'm still waiting for the obligatory comment from julian's richmond.
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he would say if this took place in Richmond we wouldn't have this happening ;D
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Isnt Slaughterhouse the group that was bitching because illegal downloaders caused their album to not be number one?
Here was one of the members rants:
Dear You,
Way to go internetters. Pat yourselves on the back. Run laps of joy. You have now officially exiled yourselves from marketplace relevance. Slaughterhouse sold 18,000 records last week.
Congrats, you are a nobody.
Gotty? warned you ragamuffins about your dependency on free downloading, and did anyone listen? Nope. You had a chance to prove yourselves and the Slaughterhouse album flopped. Plain and simple it did Brooke Hogan numbers.
The Interweb has been going bonkers since Mouse, Royce, Joell and Crooked announced they would join to form a blogger?s Wet Dream Team (ll). Fuckery, fights and misspellings aside, Slaughterhouse has seemed to be able to do no wrong, which is rare considering that they?re swimming in a thinktank of scrutiny and angry commenters. Almost every bar has been met with e-oohs and ahhs. And the album is dope. 4 Cigs dope.
Still. 18 stacks?
Slaughterhouse is an Internet phenomenon. It is full of MCs that have gained recognition via the blogs and produced an album catered completely to the sites & their visitors without even a dream of a crossover hit. And out of the tens of thousands of Internet Hip-Hop fans that frequent TSS, Nah Right, etc. all we could muster up was 18,000 purchases - much lower than the already measly 23-25K the album was expected to sell. And I know you got the album. It?s been all anyone could talk about for the past two weeks. And despite how dope you thought it was, it still apparently wasn?t purchase-worthy.
Ladies and gents, you have now reserved the right to shut the fuck up. No more complaining about Wale making songs with Gucci Mane and Lady GaGa. No more grumbling because Wayne has too many ?Ms. Officers? on his album. Zip it. Why would a label care what you think? You?re not affecting the marketplace and in the grand scheme of things, the 18,000 albums you?re going to buy are just a drop in the bucket compared to the sales that ?selling out? provides.
For these execs, money = power and our reliance on Rapidshare has squandered any perceived power the net had left. This shows that no artist can be completely sustainable on Internet support alone. Trust, the labels were watching.
This was a test.
Your grade? F. A big fat F to everyone.
Thought i remembered hearing their name recently...
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Wow that's even funnier than the Future of the Left dude's rant.
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i'm still waiting for the obligatory comment from julian's richmond.
WWRS?
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i'm still waiting for the obligatory comment from julian's richmond.
This has absolutely nothing to do with Richmond as fas as I can tell.
I will say though that Mos Def was supposed to play Richmond either the end of last year or beginning of this one, and re-scheduled 3 times, then (according to reports) showed up 3 hours late for the show he actually did play, had no opener, and performed for around 45 minutes.
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i'm still waiting for the obligatory comment from julian's richmond.
This has absolutely nothing to do with Richmond as fas as I can tell.
I will say though that Mos Def was supposed to play Richmond either the end of last year or beginning of this one, and re-scheduled 3 times, then (according to reports) showed up 3 hours late for the show he actually did play, had no opener, and performed for around 45 minutes.
for shear clarification, when i say julian's richmond, i simply mean julian in general, such as julian's america was a representation of all things julian. not to be confused with anything to do with richmond. julian's richmond is the new julian's america, which of cource . . . is julian.
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Julian's Richmond IS NOT Julian's America.
Julian's America was my personal look at what was going on the world, whereas Julian's Richmond is nothing more than a humorously-titled niche thread (because after all, "It's a Julian world, the rest of you just live in it!") for the 10 or so Richmond boardees to share restaurant rec's and plan meetups at local venues.
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If I arrive at a 9pm show and the artist has not arrived to perform the 7pm show yet, shouldnt I be entitled to a refund so I can go home?
Yes, if willing to turn over your ticket, absolutely after 4 hours in my mind, you're entitled to a refund and I can't believe if you asked at the box office that you wouldn't have gotten one.
When I arrived last night and SlaughterHouse was not performing, my frustration is directed at SlaughterHouse. But why can't I get a refund, get back in my car and go home?
Had it been the headliner, of course. The opener though? Eh, idk about that. Most ticketing agents have it as boiler plate that opening acts are subject to change so it's a risk you take. Still, I can't believe if you showed up, saw it posted that the opener wasn't there and said at the box office that's who you bought a ticket to see that they wouldn't have worked with you BEFORE YOU WENT IN.
I know I come off as critical of IMP in comparison to the fanboy slurping on here, but I think I'm fair and they do seem to care about their customers. I cannot believe if you spoke to the Box Office manager (i think his name is Tom) that they wouldn't have done something for you in the first situation, and even the second if you told them before you went in.
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but you are no longer allowed to have julian's america, which was, say not, a representation of all things julian? so julian's richmond is forced by a no vote of julian's democracy to be the new interim and imposing julian's american. sorry julian . . . the non julian has spoken.
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but you are no longer allowed to have julian's america, which was, say not, a representation of all things julian? so julian's richmond is forced by a no vote of julian's democracy to be the new interim and imposing julian's american. sorry julian . . . the non julian has spoken.
Julian's America is going to return, simply not on this board.
That said, if any of the moderators have access to the deleted threads forum (which i'm pretty sure this software has as a default) then I would appreciate being copied the old articles so I can move them offsite.
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I have trouble believing that you wouldn't have been accommodated during that Mos Def debacle especially if you showed up for the late show that probably didn't start until midnight at the earliest.
But re:last night, openers are always subject to change.
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So I was at this last Mos Def show. He was there, he was pretty much on time (early for a Hip-Hop show), played well, played long, and everyone I would say left happy.
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Yeah, last time went really well.
I'm kind of bummed I opted to go to Skygreen Leopards beforehand thinking that he'd go on later than he did. Ended up missing half of his set in favor of a piss-poor Skygreen showing but what I caught of Mos Def was excellent.
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the new mos def album is very good
the slaughterhouse album is shit
the new raekwon album is very good bordering on excellent
the new jay z is good for the first half and then trails off
that's all I have to say in this thread
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I'm halfway through the Raekwon and am inclined to agree.
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I would like to be informed of this development. Also, I'd become a fan of Julian's American if it were on Facebook...and I don't fan things lightly!
but you are no longer allowed to have julian's america, which was, say not, a representation of all things julian? so julian's richmond is forced by a no vote of julian's democracy to be the new interim and imposing julian's american. sorry julian . . . the non julian has spoken.
Julian's America is going to return, simply not on this board.
That said, if any of the moderators have access to the deleted threads forum (which i'm pretty sure this software has as a default) then I would appreciate being copied the old articles so I can move them offsite.
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That said, if any of the moderators have access to the deleted threads forum (which i'm pretty sure this software has as a default) then I would appreciate being copied the old articles so I can move them offsite.
this seems like a reasonable request. the thread was taken down without warning. a lot of work went in to creating it. shouldn't take too long to resurrect from a back-up (at a minimum, admins have a copy of the bboard before it was transitioned to this new platform).
jules, i'd definitely become a fan/follower of JA.
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What was the last straw that resulted in that thread's being pulled, anyway?
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something about gypsies I think
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yeah why was it pulled lets bring up old memories ;D
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A moderator told me not to do it anymore because of an article about _______. Months later someone posted in the thread asking why there hadn't been any updates. I posted a one sentence response that said I was told not to because of an article about ________. Said moderator then deleted the entire thread.
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Man, thatguy is really sensitive about girl's jeans. Sheesh.
A moderator told me not to do it anymore because of an article about _______. Months later someone posted in the thread asking why there hadn't been any updates. I posted a one sentence response that said I was told not to because of an article about ________. Said moderator then deleted the entire thread.
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thatguy is jealous he doesn't fit in them anymore.
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so it was all because of skinny jeans? man, hipsters today ;D
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I did not indicate which moderator it was, and it wasn't skinny jeans.