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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Herr Professor Doktor Doom on January 04, 2010, 09:10:44 pm
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I discovered something interesting this weekend while shopping at Target: I now will spend less resulting in less taxes collected by the city for my purchases. Why? I refuse to pay the 5 cent per bag tax. So I will only buy what I can carry in my own two hands. I usually spend hundreds of dollars a weekend at Target. Now I spend very little.
Fewer purchases = less sales tax generated = more money left in my bank account. And I am not alone.
I also now find it cheaper to drive my hybrid to the Safeway in Maryland to purchase groceries. I get 50+ MPG in my hybrid so an extra mile is nothing compared to 5 cents per bag. So Maryland will now get my sales tax money.
I also find myself ordering more things online now so that they can be delivered bag tax and sales tax free. The only problem is now I need to throw away all those boxes and packaging material. There is no tax on sticking it in my trash can.
So there you go City Council. Someone with a 6 figure salary has now made a lifestyle change because of the bag tax. Taxation without representation now done locally.
Here's to all the Amazon boxes now clogging the rivers.
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What an idiot.
He clearly doesn't know the purpose of the legislation....
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if i start a blog called "stuff white people complain about", can i get sued?
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if i start a blog called "stuff white people complain about", can i get sued?
No. A quick search through the trademark registry says you're good.
EDIT: But watch out for this guy: http://whitewhine.tumblr.com/
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if i start a blog called "stuff white people complain about", can i get sued?
Are you referring to the guy who made the original complaint, or that someone actually took the time to complain about the complaint?
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if i start a blog called "stuff white people complain about", can i get sued?
Are you referring to the guy who made the original complaint, or that someone actually took the time to complain about the complaint?
technically . . . aren't you complaining about the complainer who complained?
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How about some 9:30-logo grocery bags? Hipsters have to eat, too.
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i have steelers and pens ones. i'd say i only get made fun of 45% of the time i go shopping
if i start a blog called "stuff white people complain about", can i get sued?
Are you referring to the guy who made the original complaint, or that someone actually took the time to complain about the complaint?
i wasnt complaining about anything, just laughing at the original douchebaggary
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I refuse to pay the 5 cents per Douchebag tax
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You're only a
douchbag taint if you don't bring your own reusable bags...
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You're only a douchbag taint if you don't bring your own reusable bags...
but i reuse plastic grocery bags from everything to kitty boxes, storage, carrying stuff, holding recycling, dirty gym clothes, camping . . . too many to name. am i a douchebag?
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How about some 9:30-logo grocery bags? Hipsters have to eat, too.
Someone needs to make one with the word 'Douchebag' on it.... nice and big and clear for all to read.
*That is not an editorial comment but rather a strangely ironic, or not, pop hipster statement.
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jag - awesome idea. imagine if you walked away from the 930 merch booth with your swag in a plastic baggie labeled "DOUCHEBAG" (or, better yet, "OFFICIAL 930 DOUCHEBAG"). people would buy crap just to get a bag.
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but i reuse plastic grocery bags from everything to kitty boxes, storage, carrying stuff, holding recycling, dirty gym clothes, camping . . . too many to name. am i a douchebag?
Kitty Bags (http://www.ecoproducts.com/Home/home_biobags/home_biobags_doggie.htm)
holding recycling, camping (http://www.ecoproducts.com/Home/home_biobags/home_biobags_trashcan.htm)
storage, carrying stuff, dirty gym clothes (http://www.ebagsell.com/Louis_Vuitton_Men_Bags-Messenger_Bags_and_Totes-567085.html)
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That's pretty interesting, but what is the worse crime against the environment? Using a plastic bag that my paper is delivered in twice (once for the delivery and once for the poop scoop) or throwing away that plastic bag after one use and then throwing away a second eco-friendly bag?
but i reuse plastic grocery bags from everything to kitty boxes, storage, carrying stuff, holding recycling, dirty gym clothes, camping . . . too many to name. am i a douchebag?
Kitty Bags (http://www.ecoproducts.com/Home/home_biobags/home_biobags_doggie.htm)
holding recycling, camping (http://www.ecoproducts.com/Home/home_biobags/home_biobags_trashcan.htm)
storage, carrying stuff, dirty gym clothes (http://www.ebagsell.com/Louis_Vuitton_Men_Bags-Messenger_Bags_and_Totes-567085.html)
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but i reuse plastic grocery bags from everything to kitty boxes, storage, carrying stuff, holding recycling, dirty gym clothes, camping . . . too many to name. am i a douchebag?
Kitty Bags (http://www.ecoproducts.com/Home/home_biobags/home_biobags_doggie.htm)
holding recycling, camping (http://www.ecoproducts.com/Home/home_biobags/home_biobags_trashcan.htm)
storage, carrying stuff, dirty gym clothes (http://www.ebagsell.com/Louis_Vuitton_Men_Bags-Messenger_Bags_and_Totes-567085.html)
uhmmm . . . besides being linkin park's biggest fan . . . is there anything you don't know??!! ;)
thanks for the info. i'll look into those.
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That's pretty interesting, but what is the worse crime against the environment? Using a plastic bag that my paper is delivered in twice (once for the delivery and once for the poop scoop) or throwing away that plastic bag after one use and then throwing away a second eco-friendly bag?
You still get a paper newspaper?
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I don't read it...I just toss it immediately into the trash can.
I do still get a real paper. Keeps me in the local loop better than the web (at least for me). Plus, I can't live without my morning crossword puzzle, and there's no way I'd print them out from the web to do.
By the way, my post wasn't snarky...just curious from an environmental standpoint. I always assumed that the dual use was better since it's only one offense.
That's pretty interesting, but what is the worse crime against the environment? Using a plastic bag that my paper is delivered in twice (once for the delivery and once for the poop scoop) or throwing away that plastic bag after one use and then throwing away a second eco-friendly bag?
You still get a paper newspaper?
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By the way, my post wasn't snarky...just curious from an environmental standpoint. I always assumed that the dual use was better since it's only one offense.
Yeah, sorry. The answer is it depends.
If your newspaper is delivered in an enviromentally friendly bag (http://greenyes.grrn.org/2008/11/msg00045.html), by all means use it twice and let it bio-degrade in the landfill with your pet waste.
If your newspaper is delivered in a recyclable bag (for example, in SF a #2 plastic), you're better off recycling it with your blue can recycling (not using it twice if that means that it won't go in the recycling bin, but if it means using it to keep your recyclables, then use it twice). There should be a number on the bottom of the bag to let you know, then check with your waste company to see what # plastics they recycle.
If your newspaper is not delivered in a recyclable bag or enviromentally friendly bag - write an op-ed to that newspaper encouraging them to get with the program. It's 2010 for god's sake!
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You're only a douchbag taint if you don't bring your own reusable bags...
darn. . .guess that's me. i see no reason why i should pay extra for a bag to dump kitty litter in when i can get one for free from, well, an increasingly limited number of places here in ess eff which is why i go to daly city to get my plastic bags from target.
if you are upset about litter, fine the litterers; if you think, however wrongly it may be, that plastic bags are worse than paper bags, then educate the public and provide alternatives first. course, we all know that neither of those are the real reasons why these taxes and bans are put into place. . . .
<insert vansmack ad hominen "rebuttal">
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perhaps people should just grow their own food and stop this whole silly supermarket thing. that will show them.
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if you are upset about litter, fine the litterers;
They are. 5 cents a bag.
You and I have been through this before many times so there's no need to rehash it here. I'm not for paper over plastic or vice versa. I'm for reusable over all else, and biodegradable where reusable is not feasible (like your kitty litter).
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Vansmack, well said.
I find it interesting how many people see a fundamental difference between littering and throwing something out. But if it's non-degradable it's as bad for the environment whether it goes to a landfill, or the Pacific Ocean, as if it ends up on your sidewalk.
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i'm trying to wrap my head around how it makes good economic sense to go out of your way to avoid bag charges at a target
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i'm trying to wrap my head around how it makes good economic sense to go out of your way to avoid bag charges at a target
it's not, it's about proving a point, maaaaaaaaaaan...
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i'm trying to wrap my head around how it makes good economic sense to go out of your way to avoid bag charges at a target
Because driving to a suburban DC Walmart will give you cheaper prices than a DC Target, and you'll also get the bonus of shopping alongside a more diverse population of shoppers in the burbs.
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I dunno, those soccer moms all sorta look alike...
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but soccer moms go to target
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but soccer moms go to target
and the minorities and blue collar white people go to Walmart...
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thats what i was saying
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i shop at walmart, target, food lion and wegmans. i am a minority, white, but not blue collar. now i am confused.
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how are you a minority?
i shop at walmart, target, food lion and wegmans. i am a minority, white, but not blue collar. now i am confused.
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how are you a minority?
i shop at walmart, target, food lion and wegmans. i am a minority, white, but not blue collar. now i am confused.
He thinks Phish doesn't suck.
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how are you a minority?
i shop at walmart, target, food lion and wegmans. i am a minority, white, but not blue collar. now i am confused.
He thinks Phish doesn't suck.
(http://www.catnkitten.com/catpictures/funnycat295.jpg)
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how are you a minority?
i shop at walmart, target, food lion and wegmans. i am a minority, white, but not blue collar. now i am confused.
let's just say . . . i'll be at the club with my "roommate" on the 17th. oh my!
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Vansmack, well said.
I find it interesting how many people see a fundamental difference between littering and throwing something out. But if it's non-degradable it's as bad for the environment whether it goes to a landfill, or the Pacific Ocean, as if it ends up on your sidewalk.
yes, there is a difference. . . .at least at landfills you can collect the methane and use it as a fuel source for electricity generation, and get an RPS credit for it in some states (and, presumably, if a nationwide cap-and-trade or RPS program ever gets passed).
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if you are upset about litter, fine the litterers;
They are. 5 cents a bag.
You and I have been through this before many times so there's no need to rehash it here. I'm not for paper over plastic or vice versa. I'm for reusable over all else, and biodegradable where reusable is not feasible (like your kitty litter).
i don't think that argument would hold up to judicial scrutiny (not to mention that it is simply illogical). . .you can't assume that simply because i purchase a good that i will litter. and unfortunately for herr doom, littering is a specific legal definition; simply re-using it for cat litter and throwing it in the garbage does not constitute littering.
i don't necessarily disagree with your last points. . .i simply disagree with the means of getting there.
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i don't think that argument would hold up to judicial scrutiny (not to mention that it is simply illogical). . .you can't assume that simply because i purchase a good that i will litter. and unfortunately for herr doom, littering is a specific legal definition; simply re-using it for cat litter and throwing it in the garbage does not constitute littering.
i don't necessarily disagree with your last points. . .i simply disagree with the means of getting there.
Blah blah blah.
Don't worry you cheap bastard, I already bought you a 30 pack of biodegradable kitchen liners (from Target no less!) that you can use for your kitty litter. Now I will convince your wife to bring reusable bags to Target. "Do it for your daughter" I will tell her.
That's just me doing my part.
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get her cubs/bears bags. worked on me
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get her cubs/bears bags. worked on me
she has a bunch of bags branded with her company's logo on it. . .and they are insulated!
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Don't worry you cheap bastard, I already bought you a 30 pack of biodegradable kitchen liners (from Target no less!) that you can use for your kitty litter. Now I will convince your wife to bring reusable bags to Target. "Do it for your daughter" I will tell her.
That's just me doing my part.
you still haven't explained why should i pay for special bags when i get better and stronger bags for free?
i will admit to buying compostable bags for food because putting food in paper bags just caused a bigger mess (and wasn't a very good use of large paper bags). even though composting now creates a new source of methane, which seems to me to be a bit ironic.
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Why are they better? Why are they stronger? And why do you think they're "free"?
Because none of those facts are true.
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Why are they better? Why are they stronger? And why do you think they're "free"?
Because none of those facts are true.
unless there's been a huge jump in the technology, compostable bags, especially those made from corn starch, cannot match the strength and durability of good ol plastic bags. . .since they are stronger, they can hold more and last longer, and are, thus, better. (i had a similar discussion with someone about how crappy compostable utensils are compared to plastic utensils.)
as for free. . .let's see. . .am i willing to pay 1/4 of a cent more in higher prices for the "free" bag versus paying $3 for 10 compostable bags? i say yes.
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With all respect to Doctor Doom's original nomination, could we please just pass the award on to Gilbert Arenas?
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How many times do you use your kitty litter bag?
And do you not clean it out often enough that you need something more than a 13 gallon bag?
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With all respect to Doctor Doom's original nomination, could we please just pass the award on to Gilbert Arenas?
I can't believe how many well-qualified contenders there are for this award suddenly!
Yes Gilbert Arenas is a contender...
There is the third guy discovered to be a White House party crasher, followed by all the unimaginable tools who've ever been to one of his "VIP parties" in Mount Pleasant:
http://dcist.com/2010/01/what_is_the_hushgalleria_mansion.php
And because I have been insufficiently keeping up with "new media," I only today learned about the Late Night Shots New Year's Eve debacle, which included trashing the Pension Building:
http://whyihatedc.blogspot.com/2010/01/lns-reactions-to-new-years-party-are.html
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And because I have been insufficiently keeping up with "new media," I only today learned about the Late Night Shots New Year's Eve debacle, which included trashing the Pension Building:
http://whyihatedc.blogspot.com/2010/01/lns-reactions-to-new-years-party-are.html
Full disclosure: I am quoted in this article. It was a mess.
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You have to be "Annoyed" right? The other blurbs are beneath your writing prowess.
And because I have been insufficiently keeping up with "new media," I only today learned about the Late Night Shots New Year's Eve debacle, which included trashing the Pension Building:
http://whyihatedc.blogspot.com/2010/01/lns-reactions-to-new-years-party-are.html
Full disclosure: I am quoted in this article. It was a mess.
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You have to be "Annoyed" right? The other blurbs are beneath your writing prowess.
And because I have been insufficiently keeping up with "new media," I only today learned about the Late Night Shots New Year's Eve debacle, which included trashing the Pension Building:
http://whyihatedc.blogspot.com/2010/01/lns-reactions-to-new-years-party-are.html
Full disclosure: I am quoted in this article. It was a mess.
That's funny because I too thought 'Annoyed' was Julian when I read it, and that was before reading his admission. Guess you and I have read one too many Julian's Americas. :D
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And because I have been insufficiently keeping up with "new media," I only today learned about the Late Night Shots New Year's Eve debacle, which included trashing the Pension Building:
http://whyihatedc.blogspot.com/2010/01/lns-reactions-to-new-years-party-are.html
the above article has some great quotes, but doesn't really explain why the party was such a disaster. this one does a better job: http://www.nbcwashington.com/around-town/events/Internet-Rage-Festers-Over-Disaster-NYE-Party-80701182.html
what a douchebag-fest.
You have to be "Annoyed" right? The other blurbs are beneath your writing prowess.
yup, would have to him. but jules, were you actually at the party? are were you adding expected commentary, the kind that you can so easily generate without actually having to be there?
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And Ween comes through with the timely merch-
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Nice!
And don't think for a second that nkotb jr. isn't coming home in a Boognish onesie.
And Ween comes through with the timely merch-
(http://chocodogmerch.com/product/wee609.jpg)
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(http://images.icanhascheezburger.com/completestore/2009/3/6/128808382784728280.jpg)
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Rutgers would've been a more fitting joke since those guys look straight out of Jersey Shore.
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Rutgers would've been a more fitting joke since those guys look straight out of Jersey Shore.
hahaha :)
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GTL baby