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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: Bombay Chutney on June 27, 2010, 02:59:25 pm
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FYI - The 930.com webpage and Forum FAQ say Hole comes on at 9:30, but the club just tweeted that Hole starts at 9:15. Not sure which is correct, but you may want to get there early, just in case.
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How was the show?
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Still attempting to gather my thoughts. And I was one of the lucky ones who got out early. I left at roughly 12:10. To those of you who stuck it out and did not have to be there, are you gluttons for cruel and unusual punishment?
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9:15? Ha!
9:30? No.
10:24? Bingo!
It was...terrible. Love was a nightmare. She couldn't remember lyrics nor her simple guitar parts. Songs started, songs stopped. And the rambling--oh God, the rambling. Long, vitriolic, oft-incoherent strings of words. The other members of the new "Hole" seemed to despise her. Drummer Stu Fisher in particular seemed to alternate between boredom and annoyance with the Queen B*tch.
I stayed for 90 or so minutes, and just couldn't handle it any longer. I am interested to know when it, at last, ended.
I did enjoy the opening act, Foxy Shazam. Super-over-the-top and energetic, a definite Queen vibe... Nothing too "deep," but a great deal of colorful, loose showmanship on display. I would see them again, without a doubt.
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It went on until 1:10am.
30 "songs"
Pretty on the Inside
Sympathy for the Devil (Rolling Stones cover)
Samantha
Miss World
Violet
Pretty Your Whole Life
Closer (Nine Inch Nails cover)
The Man that Got Away (Judy Garland cover)
Letter to God
Asking for It
Jennifer's Body
Plump
Pretty Your Whole Life (again)(no, seriously)
Olympia
Pacific Coast Highway
Sunset Marquis
Honey
Celebrity Skin
Someone Else's Bed
Skinny Little Bitch
Doll Parts
Play With Fire (Rolling Stones cover)
Malibu
Boys on the Radio
Take this Longing (Leonard Cohen cover, seriously?)
Car Crash
Awful
Thirteen (Big Star cover, also, wow, seriously?)
Never Go Hungry
Northern Star
Okay, so...as a Hole fan who sat through the two 45-minute shows she did in April at Terminal 5 in New York, I've still gotta say that I would be pissed if I had missed this show. This is the first setlist in a long time that has a SHIT ton of rare shit on it. I can't think of a show she's played in a long time where she's played 7 songs from Live Through This, in addition to a bunch of the (actually really good) demo tracks that were floating around in 2002-2006, like Sunset Marquis and Car Crash. Neither one of those songs have been played live before, as far as I know.
But god...damn...Courtney. She slurred, forgot lyrics, went on mildly racist-tirades, outed George Clooney and the guy from Faith No More?, berated her OWN bassist in front of the audience and the band, berated the fans, and generally made EVERYONE in the room, her band included, feel incredibly uncomfortable throughout the majority of the LONG-ASS, IS THIS REALLY GOING ON MORE THAN TWO AND A HALF HOURS YEP I GUESS IT IS show that we got. She played a "new song" she was working on, "Pretty Your Whole Life" twice. Once acoustically, and once with the band. Both times were incredibly incoherent and pretty cringe-worthy. It's probably a decent song, but god damn...I mean, there were several moments where everyone standing around me were left incredibly embarrassed for what was happening in front of us. When she walked onstage and introduced us to her "videographer" (her friend with an iPhone) and said "Fuck everyone else, she's going to block your view because I need her to take this video of me", I think we all knew it was one of *those* shows. She told fans to stop complaining that they couldn't see her during Plump, and was dead ass serious about it. All of this, after showing up over an hour late to people who paid good money to see her perform. I guess she made up for it with the random / rare songs and the long setlist, but really?
Gotta say, it was super fun hearing people yell out what they thought her "worst" song was, per her request. She claims it's "Born Bad", her never-heard collaboration with Lil' Kim for the Any Given Sunday soundtrack. Instead, they used her (also-bad) song "Be a Man" for the soundtrack, which...also, just no. She was actually way off with that, though. Her worst song ever had been performed earlier in the night: "Letter to God". Embarrassing.
Also, what the fuck was that incredibly horrible Nine Inch Nails cover? My friend said it felt like a scene from "Blue Velvet", or another completely fucked out of your head David Lynch movie.
What'd everybody else think?
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Are you sure it's STILL not going on? I left after an hour. 11:30. Some of us have metro trains to catch. I'm glad I didn't stay. If I had, I would have missed the last train of the night...by an HOUR.
I almost feel sorry for her. Almost. If you abuse prescription drugs you're really not "drug-free" are you?
Her friend with the iphone was just unreal. I mean, she literally stood directly in front of her for entire songs. I'm surprised more people didn't walk out.
And doesn't she realize that her sorority (ending every phrase like it's a question)/gossip talk isn't funny or entertaining? "Oh my god?...like I wrote this song?...And this failed British comedian?...who I had a MAJOR crush on?....and Billy Corgan was there?...but I'll NEVER tell you the other guy?....and Liam Gallagher?.....if that wasn't the 90's right there?"
I walked out at that point. Sunset Marquis or something.
Part of me likes Courtney Love but that brain is swiss cheese. It's over. That band COULD be good. Could be tight.
Brian
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Cue Rusty Organ's comments, who I'm guessin' based on other people Twittering he got his money's worth...
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Awesome. Sounds like it was exactly the trainwreck people should have expected it to be.
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Is Courtney's Iphone friend going to be featured in an Apple commercial? "Being a total douche -- there's an app for that!"
Reading all this stuff, I kind of wish I was there. It sounds like it was totally worth it, for all the wrong reasons.
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I kind of wish I had been there too. I'm not afraid to admit that I love a good trainwreck...
Completely coincidentally, I was listening to Live Through This this morning...a damn fine album.
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Entertaining thread here, with pics:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/06/in_concert_hole_at_930_club.html
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""Do you really like rock music?" she asked one female. "Because you're African-American. That would be like me being into Lil Wayne." "
Wow, just wow.
Well looks like this show is the running for worst show of the year.
Was it at least so bad that it was enjoyable to witness?
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Entertaining thread here, with pics:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/06/in_concert_hole_at_930_club.html
I can't stop laughing at that review. So terrible. So spot-on accurate.
I made it until 12:30. I couldn't take it any more. And I was able to sit through that entire Pumpkins set a few years back. Not this one though. Ugh.
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Well it sounds like it certainly wasn't the worst thing a concert can be, which is utterly forgettable... I really regret missing this after reading the Post article.
And the girl with the Iphone appears to have a nice bod from the pics... if someone's gonna block your view, they might as well be good eye candy, so that's one slightly redeeming thing...
Robert Byrd jokes aside, who was the Senator???
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My God! No wonder Kurt killed himself.
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Funny how the worst shows provide for the best reviews. Well done. Classic.
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My God! No wonder Kurt killed himself.
(Somewhat) early in the concert she went through and tried to remember all the songs on "Live Through This." She initially thought there was a song called "Live Through This" (actaully "Asking For It") and when she settled on "Rock Star" she spent minutes trying to remember the chords. That doesn't exactly help her case when accused that Kurt wrote that album.
She also changed the end of "Miss World" ("can't look you in the eye") to "I'm the one who should have died." I normally would think that's....but I just read an article about Vic Chesnutt's suicide and thought it was sad.
This concert would make a great bootleg. Not the music. Just the between song mutterings...
Brian
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What a total disrespect for the audience to have her assistant "film" right next to her....wow...
I enjoyed one and a half song....."Jennifer's Body" and an abridged version of "Olympia". Wish I stayed thru the encore but it was just too late. A friend actually left before they went on stage...I should have done that and went to see THE POINTS instead!
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Entertaining thread here, with pics:
http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/2010/06/in_concert_hole_at_930_club.html
"All of a sudden Yoko doesn't seem so bad..."
lol
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You know, if I had $45 to flush down the toilet and all the time in the world on a Sunday night, I too almost wish that I were there just to witness the train wreck. Ideally, hanging out with Doom and Chaz laughing and chatting away off in the back or some corner of the club where we wouldn't be bothering other attendees. Something tells me that there were plenty of safe pockets like that last night.
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Not her assistant. Not with the entourage. A local.
When she actually cranked through a song with the band, they were tight, she could scream the scream, and it rocked. But it reminded me of a Superdrag show where John was slightly tipsy and talkative. Show would hang until he got through his thoughts, and slowed the whole thing down. I edited those bits out, cutting 10-15 minutes from the show, and that then was amazing. Could see a one CD version of this show being great.
If you have ever seen the Butthole Surfer's live DVD "Blind Eye Sees All", Gibby's between song banter from early in their career was very similar to her's. Same gesturing too.
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Interestingly, very different reviews of her show in Montclair, NJ on Friday. A friend of mine was there and said it was a great show. See review in NJ Ledger, which notes, "But Courtney Love didn't screw up any of her guitar parts. She didn't forget any of her choruses. She never lost her place in the set, or looked disoriented during a song. She seemed to grow sharper as the show went on, her natural wit and intelligence emerging in spite of her best efforts to present herself as a chaotic mess. Some purportedly wholesome performers like to pretend they're much cleaner than they are. Courtney Love exaggerates her filth."
http://www.nj.com/entertainment/music/index.ssf/2010/06/hole_at_the_wellmont_theater_i.html
And to add to the frustration, the Jersey show was only $35.
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I was at the Montclair show, too. And it was like night and day. A good, crisp, clean show. Sure, she ranted a bit (revealing that the "like a liar at a witch trial, you look good for your age" line from "Plump" is about Kim Gordon.) But she started and completed actual songs.
She probably knew the 9:30 tix were $10 more and thought to herself: "Hmmmm....what can I give them $10 more of....I know! CRAZY!"
Brian
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The funny part of it is, I shot/saw the Hole set at SXSW this year in March and she was good. The band was tight, it was a solid set, with flashes of briliiance. Last night contained minute flashes of brilliance too (she still has a damn fine rock song scream and can be really funny) but otherwise it was just...."hello deep end my old friend..."
One of the few songs I had never heard but loved was the one she completed start to finish was just before "Sunset Marquis" I think (that's when I left). It was strong but pretty and had the whole band, and she was actually "present" it seemed...anyone know the one I mean?
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You know, if I had $45 to flush down the toilet and all the time in the world on a Sunday night, I too almost wish that I were there just to witness the train wreck. Ideally, hanging out with Doom and Chaz laughing and chatting away off in the back or some corner of the club where we wouldn't be bothering other attendees. Something tells me that there were plenty of safe pockets like that last night.
Jaguar, are you on Facebook? Add me...
http://www.facebook.com/dcalex
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http://www.facebook.com/dcalex
we have exactly one mutual friend.
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Doom, your friends with Catherine and Bo! Fun....I've been friends with Catherine so long I call her Katy. ;)
http://www.facebook.com/dcalex
we have exactly one mutual friend.
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And the girl with the Iphone appears to have a nice bod from the pics... if someone's gonna block your view, they might as well be good eye candy, so that's one slightly redeeming thing...
(http://blog.washingtonpost.com/clicktrack/STHoleweb29-08.jpg)
I wouldn't proactively criticize this woman for having the body of a 50-year-old, but I would also appear quizzical at her being described as eye candy with a nice bod.
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Relaxer, if your tastes run to flat-bodied adolescents then I can see not understanding what I'm talking about....
Bags, small world :)
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I'm with Relaxer on this one.
My tastes vary, and my eye candy wife is definitely not adolescent looking.
Whatever that woman is, she aint eye candy. I guess standing next to Courtney hag will make anybody look a little better though.
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Wow people actualy paid $45 bucks for this no talent hack...
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"The way you were...long before...you were a walking Civil War..."
"But you forget...how the song goes...and tonight...it shows."
Brian
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Yes, the show was a mess in some parts, but it wasn't nearly as horrible as people are making out. She played so many songs! The only ones she messed up were ones that she rarely plays that were requests from the audience. She played many demos that are rarely heard.
Yes, she was talking to the audience, but she was making sense. She was just being herself and having a great time. It was unlike any other concert I've ever been to but I had the time of my life.
The only part that really annoyed me was that she had the girl with the iphone filming it which was blocking my view.
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She was hardly coming close to making sense. Wow what a train wreck. This show was one of those that years form now I'll be saying "Yeah I was there" and not in a good way. You could damn near see the heroin dripping out of the holes in her arms.
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Fiona......but she couldn't hit the high notes, particularly Violet. SHE GAVE US THE EFFING MICROPHONE FOR THE CHORUS! That in itself is a BIG mess up. And don't pretend it wasn't horrible!
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Anybody who did not find that abortion last night horrible might be as delusional as that racist bitch is.
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Okay, only a few select individuals will be able to answer this. Of those who were at the following shows, please rate them in order of disasterousness... anyway you want. Maybe use boxcars instead of stars or just place them in some order. Whatever works for you. Just please explain your reasons because we all love reading this stuff. :D All shows were at the 9:30 Club.
Sunday night's Hole
The Vines
Cat Power* (The time that everyone was really pissed off at her.)
*For those who attended the Cat Power show, please, only those who hated the show. That's purely for fairness so we have an even playing field to compare shows by.
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Was this the Cat Power show from last year?
If so, Hole was much, much worse.
Cat Power did sound doped up but the torture had about an average concert length. There was also no awkward banter between songs.
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Was this the Cat Power show from last year?
Not sure but seems it was a little more than a year ago. Could be wrong. Sir HC would know as it apparently made a big impact on him. LOL I know that it wasn't the last time she was around though.
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Oh ok.
The last time she was around, she was a mess as well.
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Wait, was that the Cat Power show where in the middle of a song she said "I need to pee" and ran off stage.
That is near the bottom of my list, mainly I had to deal with the "Cut out the reverb in the monitors" (i had), but the house reverbed back. THAT was a horrid show, this was a cake walk in comparison,
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^ Don't know as I've never seen her live. I just remember you and a number of other people since then talking about what a mess she is and that the show was a complete disaster. But it was one specific show that always seemed to get the most shrugs.
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I remember Cat Power crying and turning her back to the audience at Tonic in NYC in like...2003? Now THAT was a weird show, but nowhere near the 3-hour Saw trap that Courtney put us through last night.
How amazing would this have been if NPR broadcasted it? Basically, best bootleg ever.
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They would have cut out all the banter like they did with the New Pornos show. The recording would have been one hour long.
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Sounds like Hole was worse than The Vines. At least The Vines didn't speak on and on incoherently, their playing and singing was just the train wreck. I still bring up Badly Drawn Boy...I just remember folks saying how terrible that was...did he start crying....or...was mad / drunk?
(Re: Cat Power, yes, the show she ran off stage)
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The worst show I've ever been to was Cat Power, sometime in the early '00s. She was just mind-numbingly boring. Being boring is the worst possible crime a performer can commit.
It sounds like Courtney at least did not bore. If anything it seems like she was trying to channel G.G. Allin.
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GG was absolutely top 3 for me in terms of being unforgettable. Completely hilarious.
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I was at the Vines show and while it was a little all over the place, it wasn't the worst I'd seen by a long shot. As stated above, I think the Cat Power meltdowns were awhile ago, like 2000/2001. She was performing fine during the 'Greatest' shows.
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Cat Power was actually great during the Greatest tour, terrible with the Delta Blues band or whatever it's called. The worst Cat Power show I saw was during 2004, when she wasn't happy with the sound, apologized to us, then went backstage for a couple minutes then brought a boombox with her, played techno music, and sung/rapped over it.
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Fiona......but she couldn't hit the high notes, particularly Violet. SHE GAVE US THE EFFING MICROPHONE FOR THE CHORUS! That in itself is a BIG mess up. And don't pretend it wasn't horrible!
A lot of artists have their fans sing along on their best known songs. I've been to many concerts where the artist holds the microphone out to the audience and have them sing along the chorus of one of their hits. It didn't really strike me as that unusual because many artists do the same thing.
I think she was trying to make it a long fun night with a lot of songs for her fans, but it didn't work to be so spontaneous. It wasn't the best concert but it wasn't the train wreck everyone is saying. I had a fantastic time.
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Fiona, I wasn't there, but have heard the opinion of many who were. I'm going to go with the consensus of the mob on this one.
(http://www.gorbashkazdar.com/demotivators/trainwreck.jpg)
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You know what would be the worst thing in the world? If we all let Fiona go on thinking that the show was enjoyable. Quick, let's crush her spirits and show her how right we all are!!!!!!
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You know what would be the worst thing in the world? If we all let Fiona go on thinking that the show was enjoyable.
or, worse yet, introduce her to the concept that different people have different opinions - and sometimes they're at odds!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!11111111
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Fiona......but she couldn't hit the high notes, particularly Violet. SHE GAVE US THE EFFING MICROPHONE FOR THE CHORUS! That in itself is a BIG mess up. And don't pretend it wasn't horrible!
A lot of artists have their fans sing along on their best known songs. I've been to many concerts where the artist holds the microphone out to the audience and have them sing along the chorus of one of their hits. It didn't really strike me as that unusual because many artists do the same thing.
I think she was trying to make it a long fun night with a lot of songs for her fans, but it didn't work to be so spontaneous. It wasn't the best concert but it wasn't the train wreck everyone is saying. I had a fantastic time.
Since I've posted several times on this thread, I do feel kind of bad for those hard-core Courtney Love fans. Maybe it seems like we're bullying.
I don't know why, especially after Sunday night, but I'm actually a fan of Courtney Love/Hole. I've seen this "new" Hole multiple times in 2010.
Women just appreciate Courtney Love differently. They just do. Her fans are almost like Morrissey fans. A man can try to understand but we can't. There's something about her attitude that connects with women. I don't know what the alt-equivalent is for men. Jeff Tweedy? Nick Cave? So I think men can't really understand Courtney Love like women can.
I'm really glad you liked the show, Fiona. And I hope you can gain enjoyment and strength from Courtney's music and attitude.
However,
A.) I caught the end of the "Behind the Music" and she mentioned about still wanting to do the "rock thing." This may seem cruel, but right now her music is all she has. She still has some fans. But, if I knew this album and this tour were "make or break" for her continuing to do this I would rehearse the SHIT out of those songs. Know every word, every note, be able to stop on a dime, forwards and backwards. Her band has talent. There aren't THAT many Hole/Courtney Love songs and to be honest, they're not that complicated. So, there's no excuse for her not knowing these songs and being able to play them competently. The weakest link in that band is Courtney. In another thread (Just Announced, maybe) someone mentioned Joan Jett. I also saw her recently and she kicks ASS. Her band is tight, her voice is strong, and she plays to the crowd. That's what Courtney should be doing. Considering what's at stake. I'm not saying Courtney shouldn?t talk at ALL between songs but she could have played the same songs she did Sunday night in a tight, guns blazing 90 minute set. And if she did that, knew the words, knew the chords, NO ONE would be complaining today.
B.) She's not straight. It doesn't take a genius to see that. Few rock stars are but it clearly affects her performance. She's not drug free.
C.) The thing that annoys me most about her is her relationship to her fans. She'd have a wider audience ten, fifteen years ago but RIGHT NOW, there's only two people who go see Courtney Love/Hole: A. People waiting for the pileup and B. Diehard fans. Being clean, sober and musically competent could change the minds of group A but she treats group B like such shit. She's so condescending. She's always talking about her Dior clothes...and who she has a crush on...and who she used to sleep with...her $800 underwear. Never an "I'm just like you" attitude towards her audience. It's "I'm so much better than you" attitude. Could any of you be friends with someone who name drops like she does? And then she hints at something scandalous and says "I'll NEVER tell you who that is." Die-hards, is that REALLY entertaining? I couldn't picture Mariah Carey or Aguilera or any other bitch diva being that bad. I'm serious. Can any of you think of someone who'd have an assistant stand DIRECTLY in front of them so they could be filmed (by an iPod) for an ENTIRE song?!? I'm genuinely curious. Who's the biggest ego, rock star a-hole ever? The guy from Creed? Corgan? I can't think of ANYONE who'd do that. She'd be the worst friend ever. She actually thinks people CARE about Trent Reznor stories. Or Billy Corgan stories. Or Gavin Rossdale stories. What? Was she too busy to blow the guy from Smashmouth?
She's capable of putting on a good show. But she's Chuck Berry, now. Has anyone here ever seen Chuck Berry? If you go to see Chuck Berry, you are looking at a person who used to perform as Chuck Berry. And Chuck Berry's attitude is that you should get down on your hands and knees and pray thanks for witnessing such genius.
Brian
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I really wish I saw this set. I really thought about going but 45 dollars for a club show seemed too extreme especially as Eric wasn't there.
I do think female rock acts have a lot harder time getting the attention they deserve. Time after time you see bands that have female lead singers play small clubs while much less talented bands with male singers move up the ladder. Really in the 90's the only female lead bands that got any radio play at all were Garbage, Hole, and No Doubt. And Gwen can be confused for a guy at times.
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Vansmack is going to punch you in the face for that one.
And Gwen can be confused for a guy at times.
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I was at the Vines show and while it was a little all over the place, it wasn't the worst I'd seen by a long shot. As stated above, I think the Cat Power meltdowns were awhile ago, like 2000/2001. She was performing fine during the 'Greatest' shows.
I saw her on Greatest show at the club which NPR recorded. I think she did stop one song and gave up on it towards the end of the set but other than that she was ok. The set at Virgin was pretty low key although there was virtually no one watching.
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The 90's had their fair share of shit acts with female singers who got much bigger than they should have.
Letters to Cleo?
Veruca Salt?
Jewel?
And that is off the top of my head. Sure there are female fronted bands that never got the credit they deserved but there are just as many male-fronted bands in the same boat.
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Dear Brian,
I would guess that most of her fans know she is a trainwreck and that is one aspect of why they like her. Comparing to Morrissey fans is not the same - Courtney is in a whole other element. Musically, of course, I'm guessing she is not 100% for all the reasons you state. I appreciate you extending an olive branch to fiona and other Hole fans, but really, people know what her personality is like and that's not the argument. The comments seem to be about her physical state and ability to perform 100%.
I didn't read anything offensive, seemed like constructive criticism (for a change!)
Azag, and Jewel has a hissy fit she was beaned in the head w/ a frisbee.
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Fiona......but she couldn't hit the high notes, particularly Violet. SHE GAVE US THE EFFING MICROPHONE FOR THE CHORUS! That in itself is a BIG mess up. And don't pretend it wasn't horrible!
A lot of artists have their fans sing along on their best known songs. I've been to many concerts where the artist holds the microphone out to the audience and have them sing along the chorus of one of their hits. It didn't really strike me as that unusual because many artists do the same thing.
I think she was trying to make it a long fun night with a lot of songs for her fans, but it didn't work to be so spontaneous. It wasn't the best concert but it wasn't the train wreck everyone is saying. I had a fantastic time.
It was a total train wreck! Other artists have the audience sing ALONG with SOME of the songs. She had the audience sing almost all of every song for her because she was so trashed she had no idea where she was let alone what she was doing or the words to what she was so miserably failing to sing.
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Well I will be in St. Louis at the same time as Hole. Tickets are significantly cheaper at 32.50 I might just go to it to judge for myself.
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Sounds like Hole was worse than The Vines. At least The Vines didn't speak on and on incoherently, their playing and singing was just the train wreck. I still bring up Badly Drawn Boy...I just remember folks saying how terrible that was...did he start crying....or...was mad / drunk?
(Re: Cat Power, yes, the show she ran off stage)
I saw a Badly Drawn Boy a couple of years back at the club. I don't remember anything particularly awful about his performance. I did leave a bit early as I got bored. I guess I can say it pretty much a show you would forget more than say was totally awful.
Certainly a lot better than the Sisters of Mercys show at the club (last one).
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I'm guessing Fiona is the author of this article: http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/articles/hole-930-club-what-the-washington-post-doesnt-want-you-to-read.htm
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I'm guessing Fiona is the author of this article: http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/articles/hole-930-club-what-the-washington-post-doesnt-want-you-to-read.htm
doomie, after checking out the pix in the above story, are you still so smitten with the camera-woman/iphone holder? not looking too hawt IMO...
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One of the great things about this big old world is that there's somebody for everyone.
I'm guessing Fiona is the author of this article: http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/articles/hole-930-club-what-the-washington-post-doesnt-want-you-to-read.htm
doomie, after checking out the pix in the above story, are you still so smitten with the camera-woman/iphone holder? not looking too hawt IMO...
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I'm guessing Fiona is the author of this article: http://www.brightestyoungthings.com/articles/hole-930-club-what-the-washington-post-doesnt-want-you-to-read.htm
doomie, after checking out the pix in the above story, are you still so smitten with the camera-woman/iphone holder? not looking too hawt IMO...
Well, some guys are into the look of a woman who apparantly just ate an entire steer.
That BYT review was so fucking retarded. "The show was messy, but this is punk."
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Going nationwide:
http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2010/06/29/729760.aspx
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNE5Q5M-HU&feature=related
I stand firm in my statement that I really wish i'd been at this show.
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Going nationwide:
http://www.pollstar.com/blogs/news/archive/2010/06/29/729760.aspx
As always, the real gold is in the comments:
I was at this show and have been to hundreds of shows in my lifetime and this was seriously the best show I have ever been to. ... She thought it was awesome that there were black people at her show and pulled them onstage with her. I thought she was magnetic and beautiful. The show was beyond my wildest expectations and everyone who was a true Hole fan got more than their money's worth.
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^ Oh. My. God.
I still can't get over the Black people comment but now I'm not sure which is worse, Courtney's comment or the commenter's statement regarding Black people.
Firebutt, why weren't you on stage setting this bitch straight!?!?
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More eye candy for Dr. Doom. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNE5Q5M-HU&feature=related
I stand firm in my statement that I really wish i'd been at this show.
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I heart David Malitz. I wish he was a boardie....
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I heart David Malitz. I wish he was a boardie....
as if, he's way to busy for this shit. some people have REAL jobs doncha know.
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some people have REAL jobs doncha know.
Losers. If they haven't figured out how to game the system by now, they will never figure it out.
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byt really is the worst thing in dc period.
"punk" reporting about dischord doesnt really count for byt
only punk they ever did was when they tried to report on the dc debate fan death sort of started
even then, we arent a punk label.
that being said, if they wanna review more of my records, and podcast about me, im all for it
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uhhh, he got on stage...
"You're black and you like rock and roll...i like you.....come up here...."
Firebutt, why weren't you on stage setting this bitch straight!?!?
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^ HAHAHA!!!!
Now probably the one time that he regrets it.
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I wish I was black. Then I could get on stage more.
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Man, the club is on a memory-making roll for me. Three people shot last time I was there, then this disaster on Sunday. I was kinda pissed at first, but looking back on it I'm glad I was at this historically shitty show. Kinda like seeing wasted Elvis in Vegas. My folks told me about seeing Judy Garland one time in the 60s and she was so drunk she just sat on the stage and talked the whole time. Yeah, it sucked, but they still remember it 50 years later.
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the person just compared a hole to judy . . . oh the fricking humanity.
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There's something about her attitude that connects with women.
It's "I'm so much better than you" attitude.
This is why women love her so much. You just answered your own question.
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That BYT review was so fucking retarded. "The show was messy, but this is punk."
I think BYT is fucking retarded in general, but different strokes for different folks...
as for the Iphone woman, what can I say... maybe it's the stockings...
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More eye candy for Dr. Doom. ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNE5Q5M-HU&feature=related
I stand firm in my statement that I really wish i'd been at this show.
I do kinda like the girl in boots leaning against the stop sign around 1:00...
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I hate what the deluded apologists are saying--"This show was pure, distilled rock 'n' roll. If you hated it, you're just too old or square/you just don't understand rock 'n' roll."
::) ::)
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I hate what the deluded apologists are saying--"This show was pure, distilled rock 'n' roll. If you hated it, you're just too old or square/you just don't understand rock 'n' roll."
::) ::)
That's like how Young Republicans trot out the "you're just not intelligent enough to understand my position" canard when backed into a logical corner.
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If you thought DC had it bad, she's got two shows in Chicago coming up.
(http://psaroukla.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/vomit1.jpg)
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This review says she got it together again in Nashville:
http://www.nashvillescene.com/nashvillecream/archives/2010/06/30/hole-at-cannery-ballroom-63010
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Wow this things's got legs now
http://www.rollingstone.com/music/news/17386/150872
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Wait, she stripped down topless at this show? There were boobs?
Also, the RS article doesn't mention the most annoying part, which was Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan filming the whole show on-stage.
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Wait, she stripped down topless at this show? There were boobs?
Also, the RS article doesn't mention the most annoying part, which was Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan filming the whole show on-stage.
She was wearing for the encore a sheer top that left nothing to the imagination. She then put on a bra tossed on stage from the audience, and in the back corner with her back turned to people put it on.
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I wonder if the bra-toss was a normal fan joke, or if it was an actual plea from the audience to entice her to put her clothes back on.
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http://consequenceofsound.net/2010/07/01/courtney-love-strips-during-meltdown-at-d-c-show/
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNE5Q5M-HU&feature=related
I stand firm in my statement that I really wish i'd been at this show.
Five bucks says the old guy who has seen better free shows at Black Cat BackStage is RatBastard.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNE5Q5M-HU&feature=related
I stand firm in my statement that I really wish i'd been at this show.
Five bucks says the old guy who has seen better free shows at Black Cat BackStage is RatBastard.
I don't think that is Ratbastard, I think Ratbastard uses a cane and has long hair. I could be wrong though ;D
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNE5Q5M-HU&feature=related
I stand firm in my statement that I really wish i'd been at this show.
Five bucks says the old guy who has seen better free shows at Black Cat BackStage is RatBastard.
You owe me $5. You can find me at the exact same spot any show I attend. Just ask That Guy for me. He will point you in the right direction. He knows where Kim and I hang out.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ecNE5Q5M-HU&feature=related
I stand firm in my statement that I really wish i'd been at this show.
Five bucks says the old guy who has seen better free shows at Black Cat BackStage is RatBastard.
You owe me $5. You can find me at the exact same spot any show I attend. Just ask That Guy for me. He will point you in the right direction. He knows where Kim and I hang out.
I get a share of that 5 bucks too ;D
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Wait, she stripped down topless at this show? There were boobs?
Also, the RS article doesn't mention the most annoying part, which was Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan filming the whole show on-stage.
She was wearing for the encore a sheer top that left nothing to the imagination. She then put on a bra tossed on stage from the audience, and in the back corner with her back turned to people put it on.
Okay, you guys didn't mention this earlier, and why? lol. Anyhow, hands down has to be one of the most controversial shows in awhile.
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Wait, she stripped down topless at this show? There were boobs?
Also, the RS article doesn't mention the most annoying part, which was Supreme Court nominee Elena Kagan filming the whole show on-stage.
She was wearing for the encore a sheer top that left nothing to the imagination. She then put on a bra tossed on stage from the audience, and in the back corner with her back turned to people put it on.
Okay, you guys didn't mention this earlier, and why? lol. Anyhow, hands down has to be one of the most controversial shows in awhile.
If you want I can scan a set list, otherwise known as a menu (She ordered a lot of off menu items that night).
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And here is the set list for the night in question:
Pretty/Sympathy
Samantha
Miss World
Violet
Closer
LEtter to God
Pacific Coast Highway
Sunset Marquis
Reasons to be Beautiful
Take this Longing
Plump
Asking for It
Malibu
Someone Else's Bed
Celebrity Skin
Skin
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Doll Parts
Play with Fire
Stand Up
Boys on the Radio
13
Never Go Hungry
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She's back:
http://www.thefix.com/content/courtney-love-interview (http://www.thefix.com/content/courtney-love-interview)
http://www.thefix.com/content/courtney-intro (http://www.thefix.com/content/courtney-intro)
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Wow! It's almost been a year since this abortion.
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That interview is incredible.
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She is totally off her rocker.
"I haven't done any narcotics since 2006."
"I did a bump of coke last month."
I only do narcotics prescribed by my doctor."
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Courtney was kind of my portal to realizing that Kurt Cobain was really kind of a hypocritical whiney dick. And I fucking loved Nirvana and went to college in the Pacific Northwest from 1988 to 1992 so I was there
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Courtney was kind of my portal to realizing that Kurt Cobain was really kind of a hypocritical whiney dick. And I fucking loved Nirvana and went to college in the Pacific Northwest from 1988 to 1992 so I was there
everybody is a hypocritical whiney dick . . . no matter where and when you lived there.
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Courtney was kind of my portal to realizing that Kurt Cobain was really kind of a hypocritical whiney dick. And I fucking loved Nirvana and went to college in the Pacific Northwest from 1988 to 1992 so I was there
Want a cookie?
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She is totally off her rocker.
"I haven't done any narcotics since 2006."
"I did a bump of coke last month."
I only do narcotics prescribed by my doctor."
Nice to see that Michael Jackson's doctor has found some steady work since he lost his most lucrative patient.
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Courtney was kind of my portal to realizing that Kurt Cobain was really kind of a hypocritical whiney dick. And I fucking loved Nirvana and went to college in the Pacific Northwest from 1988 to 1992 so I was there
Want a cookie?
Is that a joke? GOOD ONE HAVEN'T HEARD THAT ONE BEFORE
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But in retrospect, the answer is yes, I do want a cookie.
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http://www.frostillustrated.com/atf.php?sid=7352¤t_edition=2010-04-21
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Yeah but that's the same lady that last year was all freaked out that the Scissor Sisters concert would just be an orgy of gay buttsex and sweaty moaning.
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went to college in the Pacific Northwest from 1988 to 1992 so I was there
Wow. You are as old as I am.
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I was a child prodigy. Like Mozart, Webster and Doogie Howser (pre-gay)
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went to college in the Pacific Northwest from 1988 to 1992 so I was there
Wow. You are as old as I am.
Looks like you are one year older than me. I turn 40 next week.