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Title: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: RustyOrgan on September 28, 2011, 07:51:13 pm
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Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: RustyOrgan on October 02, 2011, 10:49:35 am
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Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 02, 2011, 11:03:19 am
I went last night. It was pretty entertaining but I think he could have moved things along faster and rambled less. Listening to someone talk for 2.5 hours is a bit much no matter who it is.

Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: James Ford on October 02, 2011, 01:46:27 pm
Saw him basically do the same thing for free at an in-store in the early 2000's. Can believe people actually pay $$ to see him.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2011, 03:01:07 pm
Saw him basically do the same thing for free at an in-store in the early 2000's. Can believe people actually pay $$ to see him.



As far as I know it was free as long as you bought the book from Politics and Prose.

I did this for Salman Rushdie a few years back...well worth it as I got to meet him.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: James Ford on October 02, 2011, 07:41:15 pm
The book price was $29 or (or $27, something like that), I think I read. Or you could buy two tickets for $24.

And not worth it, based on another (boring) book of his I read (free, from the library).

Saw him basically do the same thing for free at an in-store in the early 2000's. Can believe people actually pay $$ to see him.



As far as I know it was free as long as you bought the book from Politics and Prose.

I did this for Salman Rushdie a few years back...well worth it as I got to meet him.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2011, 07:52:27 pm
The book price was $29 or (or $27, something like that), I think I read. Or you could buy two tickets for $24.

And not worth it, based on another (boring) book of his I read (free, from the library).

Saw him basically do the same thing for free at an in-store in the early 2000's. Can believe people actually pay $$ to see him.



As far as I know it was free as long as you bought the book from Politics and Prose.

I did this for Salman Rushdie a few years back...well worth it as I got to meet him.


You're being silly or you're just bored and fishing for replies so that you can laugh at the "idiots" who bother to respond to your posts.   ;)

Of course its not worth it to you if you don't like his books but plenty of people do and to them I'd say its worth it to get two free tickets to hear the author upon purchasing his book.

Aren't you the same person who thought it was stupid to take an overnight bus instead of paying for a hotel in NYC?

Sounds like you don't account for people's different tastes/approaches/preferences!

Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: James Ford on October 02, 2011, 09:11:23 pm
All i'm saying it I've read one of his books, and i've seen him speak (twice), and i'm glad I didn't pay for any of it. Just sharing my opinion. Sorry  if ir differs from yours!
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: hutch on October 02, 2011, 09:57:22 pm
All i'm saying it I've read one of his books, and i've seen him speak (twice), and i'm glad I didn't pay for any of it. Just sharing my opinion. Sorry  if ir differs from yours!




I know plenty of people don't like Michael Moore...I didn't even say what I thought of him myself.. just pointing out getting free tickets to see him when buying a book is a pretty good deal for those that care..

I guess you're just saying you don't like Michael Moore; thats not saying much!



Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: James Ford on October 02, 2011, 10:59:21 pm
I'm actually watching one of his films on netflix right now.

For the record 9not that anybody cares, unless maybe they agree with me) I find his films compelling. His personal appearances and books are more about him than the films are, and are not nearly as compellig.

All i'm saying it I've read one of his books, and i've seen him speak (twice), and i'm glad I didn't pay for any of it. Just sharing my opinion. Sorry  if ir differs from yours!




I know plenty of people don't like Michael Moore...I didn't even say what I thought of him myself.. just pointing out getting free tickets to see him when buying a book is a pretty good deal for those that care..

I guess you're just saying you don't like Michael Moore; thats not saying much!




Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 02, 2011, 11:25:15 pm
I will agree with this with regard to the appearances.
I'm actually watching one of his films on netflix right now.

For the record 9not that anybody cares, unless maybe they agree with me) I find his films compelling. His personal appearances and books are more about him than the films are, and are not nearly as compellig.

All i'm saying it I've read one of his books, and i've seen him speak (twice), and i'm glad I didn't pay for any of it. Just sharing my opinion. Sorry  if ir differs from yours!




I know plenty of people don't like Michael Moore...I didn't even say what I thought of him myself.. just pointing out getting free tickets to see him when buying a book is a pretty good deal for those that care..

I guess you're just saying you don't like Michael Moore; thats not saying much!




Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Yada on October 03, 2011, 10:29:59 am
"The Great Michael Moore."

lolz  ::)
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: RustyOrgan on October 03, 2011, 11:18:04 am
Wonderful show last night!!  Now to watch his 3 hour appearance on CSPAN BookTV!!
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 03, 2011, 11:23:35 am
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Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 04, 2011, 01:24:10 pm
A requirement to see him spew his drivvell is to purchase a book?

hmmmmm....that's rather capitalist of him don't you think?
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: James Ford on October 04, 2011, 01:30:49 pm
That was the requirement if you wanted a pair of "free" tickets.

The second and cheaper option was just to buy tickets.

A requirement to see him spew his drivvell is to purchase a book?

hmmmmm....that's rather capitalist of him don't you think?
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: hutch on October 04, 2011, 01:57:28 pm
drivel?  ::)

I can only stand so much folks.. There is a limit.  ;D

Michael Moore is a patriot. If more people had listened when he he called out Bush's fictitious war at the Oscars instead of labeling him a traitor commie pinko we might have gotten out of Iraq while it was easy.

What were you doing Frank? Waving your pompons and going rah rah?

A lot of good that did the thousands of dead American soldiers and for what? NOTHING. Oh, actually, to spend ourselves into practical national bankruptcy.

Michael Moore is a good American and he had it right on these phoney wars just like he has it right on health care.

To come down on him for giving away free tickets  to people who buy his book is ridiculous.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 04, 2011, 03:03:50 pm
That was the requirement if you wanted a pair of "free" tickets.

The second and cheaper option was just to buy tickets.

A requirement to see him spew his drivvell is to purchase a book?

hmmmmm....that's rather capitalist of him don't you think?

But shouldn't Moore have spread his wealth and paid for everyone's ticket?
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: hutch on October 04, 2011, 03:50:55 pm
That was the requirement if you wanted a pair of "free" tickets.

The second and cheaper option was just to buy tickets.

A requirement to see him spew his drivvell is to purchase a book?

hmmmmm....that's rather capitalist of him don't you think?

But shouldn't Moore have spread his wealth and paid for everyone's ticket?


boring!
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 04, 2011, 06:31:46 pm
That was the requirement if you wanted a pair of "free" tickets.

The second and cheaper option was just to buy tickets.

A requirement to see him spew his drivvell is to purchase a book?

hmmmmm....that's rather capitalist of him don't you think?

But shouldn't Moore have spread his wealth and paid for everyone's ticket?


boring!

Brainwashed....
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: hutch on October 04, 2011, 07:04:32 pm
That was the requirement if you wanted a pair of "free" tickets.

The second and cheaper option was just to buy tickets.

A requirement to see him spew his drivvell is to purchase a book?

hmmmmm....that's rather capitalist of him don't you think?

But shouldn't Moore have spread his wealth and paid for everyone's ticket?


boring!

Brainwashed....


Thats funny..  the few that stood up against the Iraq War fiasco are the brainwashed ones?!?

 ;)


Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Brian_Wallace on October 04, 2011, 07:48:26 pm

Thats funny..  the few that stood up against the Iraq War fiasco are the brainwashed ones?!?

 ;)


I'm almost withdrawing my support for your increased booking of Hispanic/Latin shows.

Michael Moore is not a patriot.  Those who served in the Iraq War (what you call a "fiasco") and continue to serve are the patriots.   Michael Moore is a lazy, fat, uneducated blowhard who is SUCH a hypocrite when it comes to what he SAYS he "believes in" it's almost an insult to hypocrites everywhere.   He's background noise.  Do you know any functioning member of society that listens to what he says and believes?  I mean, besides sheep?

To call him a patriot means you are very naive and haven't experienced much when it comes to the world.  I hope you have band-aids handy when you get cut.  But I can stop by and help you wash all the panes in your glass house.  Anytime.

Brian
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: RustyOrgan on October 04, 2011, 08:17:03 pm
Michael Moore is a cheer leader for the most exciting protest movements since the 60's.  It's time for all of us to OCCUPY!  LET'S LYNCH THE LANDLORD!!
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: RustyOrgan on October 04, 2011, 08:19:01 pm

Thats funny..  the few that stood up against the Iraq War fiasco are the brainwashed ones?!?

 ;)


I'm almost withdrawing my support for your increased booking of Hispanic/Latin shows.

Michael Moore is not a patriot.  Those who served in the Iraq War (what you call a "fiasco") and continue to serve are the patriots.   Michael Moore is a lazy, fat, uneducated blowhard who is SUCH a hypocrite when it comes to what he SAYS he "believes in" it's almost an insult to hypocrites everywhere.   He's background noise.  Do you know any functioning member of society that listens to what he says and believes?  I mean, besides sheep?

To call him a patriot means you are very naive and haven't experienced much when it comes to the world.  I hope you have band-aids handy when you get cut.  But I can stop by and help you wash all the panes in your glass house.  Anytime.

Brian

While US soldiers are, indeed, patriots, the capitalist pig fucks who send them off to die are most certainly NOT.  I include those who vote for conservatives, Bush W., TeaBaggers, etc.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 04, 2011, 08:47:08 pm
The Brian = Dupek theory just became more believable.


Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: wml7 on October 04, 2011, 08:48:47 pm
pig fucks  ;D
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: hutch on October 04, 2011, 10:36:22 pm
Brian,

Who said American soldiers are not patriots? I support our troops while I disagree with the mission.

I mean really.

But I happen to think that taking a stand against a very popular- sold to the American people via a pack of lies- but harmful war to our nation was and will always be patriotic.


Now we see them dime a dozen "I was against the war...."..Everyone was!


But in March 2003 there weren't many of us on the mall protesting the war that was about to come... and we were the ones being called unpatriotic.. And over the next few years there weren't many of us at the protests in Lafayette Square. I can assure you of that...

If people really want to support the troops lets bring them home.

And yes, Michael Moore is a patriot because he took a very unpopular stand at a time when doing so made you a pariah.

He is still paying the consequences as evidenced by some of the hogwash being written on this thread.

Is Michael Moore correct on everything? Of course not but he was right on this War and thats a big one.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: wml7 on October 04, 2011, 10:40:25 pm
I liked Sicko and Roger and Me, oh yeah Super Size Me too  ;D
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Brian_Wallace on October 04, 2011, 10:53:52 pm

And yes, Michael Moore is a patriot because he took a very unpopular stand at a time when doing so made you a pariah.


I think the Beatles and Radiohead suck.  They are both horrible, horrible bands.  Where's my "Patriot" button?

Brian
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: hutch on October 04, 2011, 11:06:53 pm

And yes, Michael Moore is a patriot because he took a very unpopular stand at a time when doing so made you a pariah.


I think the Beatles and Radiohead suck.  They are both horrible, horrible bands.  Where's my "Patriot" button?

Brian

You're kidding right?

Don't tell me you compare sending American men and women to go fight a war thousands of miles away in a meaningless pointless war based on lies that has virtually bankrupted our country to your position on "boy bands"?

Please.



Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Brian_Wallace on October 04, 2011, 11:07:14 pm
If people really want to support the troops lets bring them home.


A strong country needs a strong military.  

Hey, let's become isolationists!  That sounds like FUN!  We'd have all the time in the WORLD to jerk off to Wilco and obsess over iphones, then!

Gunpowder makes the world go round.  The sooner you realize that, the better off you are.  You can't be a naive child your entire life.  Well, you can.  There are several on this message board that are.

What hogwash has been spewed regarding Mr. Moore?  I'm curious.  Are you saying he's NOT a hypocrite?  Are you going to give me some tired, "George W. Bush was worse than Hitler" spiel?  How he's a war criminal?  Or how (as Michael Moore has suggested) we should have tried Osama Bin Laden in a court of law?  

Hey, wm7!  Hutch!  They're prostesting on Wall Street!  Go up!  Be a PATRIOT!  I hear since Phish aren't touring there's a drum circle and EVERYTHING!

Brian
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 04, 2011, 11:11:30 pm
trey and mike are touring.  you lose . . . again.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Brian_Wallace on October 04, 2011, 11:12:55 pm
meaningless pointless war based on lies that has virtually bankrupted our country

Kids, that's what's known as a "talking point."  Do you have a tattoo of that somewhere?  If you're drunk and pulled over do you have to say it backwards?

"Country...our...lies...Bush...bankrupt....war....senseless..."

Brian
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Brian_Wallace on October 04, 2011, 11:13:41 pm
trey and mike are touring.  you lose . . . again.

They're not the whole BAND!  Sting's touring, too.  That's not THE POLICE!

Brian
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: hutch on October 04, 2011, 11:15:06 pm
If people really want to support the troops lets bring them home.


A strong country needs a strong military.  

Hey, let's become isolationists!  That sounds like FUN!  We'd have all the time in the WORLD to jerk off to Wilco and obsess over iphones, then!

Gunpowder makes the world go round.  The sooner you realize that, the better off you are.  You can't be a naive child your entire life.  Well, you can.  There are several on this message board that are.

What hogwash has been spewed regarding Mr. Moore?  I'm curious.  Are you saying he's NOT a hypocrite?  Are you going to give me some tired, "George W. Bush was worse than Hitler" spiel?  How he's a war criminal?  Or how (as Michael Moore has suggested) we should have tried Osama Bin Laden in a court of law?  

Hey, wm7!  Hutch!  They're prostesting on Wall Street!  Go up!  Be a PATRIOT!  I hear since Phish aren't touring there's a drum circle and EVERYTHING!

Brian


You're on a roll tonight my friend. Tell me you don't actually believe what happened in Iraq made our military look strong? Tell me you don't actually believe it has strengthened our country to waste all that blood and treasure over there.

Please, otherwise I'll have to accept you're not just rude but also incredibly stupid.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Brian_Wallace on October 04, 2011, 11:22:00 pm
If people really want to support the troops lets bring them home.


A strong country needs a strong military.  

Hey, let's become isolationists!  That sounds like FUN!  We'd have all the time in the WORLD to jerk off to Wilco and obsess over iphones, then!

Gunpowder makes the world go round.  The sooner you realize that, the better off you are.  You can't be a naive child your entire life.  Well, you can.  There are several on this message board that are.

What hogwash has been spewed regarding Mr. Moore?  I'm curious.  Are you saying he's NOT a hypocrite?  Are you going to give me some tired, "George W. Bush was worse than Hitler" spiel?  How he's a war criminal?  Or how (as Michael Moore has suggested) we should have tried Osama Bin Laden in a court of law?  

Hey, wm7!  Hutch!  They're prostesting on Wall Street!  Go up!  Be a PATRIOT!  I hear since Phish aren't touring there's a drum circle and EVERYTHING!

Brian


You're on a roll tonight my friend. Tell me you don't actually believe what happened in Iraq made our military look strong? Tell me you don't actually believe it has strengthened our country to waste all that blood and treasure over there.

Please, otherwise I'll have to accept you're not just rude but also incredibly stupid.

Listen, I don't want to get in a political discussion here.  I don't think blood was "wasted" over there.  I don't think American soldiers giving their lives ANYWHERE is a "waste."  I'm sure you differ on that.  And I have no idea what you mean by "treasure".  Are you referring to some video game or something?   Yes, I'm incredibly rude, amazingly stupid and because I didn't think the man who ran Gino's steaks in Philly was a racist, apparently a racist, too.

Good night.

Brian
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: xneverwherex on October 05, 2011, 12:58:23 pm
Please explain to me what is wrong with the protesting of Wall Street. Ive got friends down there who are protesting - who got laid off from jobs - can barely afford rent and are at an age where just packing up and going home to ma/pa is not an option.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: ggw on October 05, 2011, 01:54:31 pm
Please explain to me what is wrong with the protesting of Wall Street. Ive got friends down there who are protesting - who got laid off from jobs - can barely afford rent and are at an age where just packing up and going home to ma/pa is not an option.


It is basically just a bunch of spoiled, whiny Gen-Ys searching for any "cause" on which they can vent their personal disaffection.  Nothing like some nebulous boogieman of "financial greed and corruption" to get their collectivist juices flowing. 
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: RustyOrgan on October 05, 2011, 02:03:51 pm
Please explain to me what is wrong with the protesting of Wall Street. Ive got friends down there who are protesting - who got laid off from jobs - can barely afford rent and are at an age where just packing up and going home to ma/pa is not an option.


It is basically just a bunch of spoiled, whiny Gen-Ys searching for any "cause" on which they can vent their personal disaffection.  Nothing like some nebulous boogieman of "financial greed and corruption" to get their collectivist juices flowing. 

Have you not read a newspaper in the past 10 years? People have more than enough reason to protest - and if you look at who is at these demonstrations, it's hardly the hipster types that you mention.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: azaghal1981 on October 05, 2011, 02:11:52 pm
It is a joke that the heads of BofA, Goldman (including our current treasury secretary), etc. are not in jail and continue to make more money than ever while at the same time, banks are taking away people's houses left and right.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: ggw on October 05, 2011, 02:13:17 pm
I read 2-3 newspapers a day, but Adbusters and ProPublica are not among them.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Brian_Wallace on October 05, 2011, 02:57:04 pm
Please explain to me what is wrong with the protesting of Wall Street. Ive got friends down there who are protesting - who got laid off from jobs - can barely afford rent and are at an age where just packing up and going home to ma/pa is not an option.


Wow!  Can't afford rent in New York City?!?!?!  Get OUT!  No, I mean if you can't afford rent where you want to live, get out.  Move somewhere where you can afford rent and get a job.  Where's the protest for hipsters who live in NYC and have nothing better to do than stand in a line around a city block to see Radiohead?

Brian
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: xneverwherex on October 05, 2011, 03:44:20 pm
Yes Brian - because you know all. My friends obviously waited all day in line to be at Radiohead in the very front. They spent $80 on tickets even tho theyre not employed. We all live in luxurious apartments in Manhattan and dont think twice about paying $3,000 in rent. We're also all hipsters, and are trust-fund kids - so the complaining about losing a job - whatevs - we'll go down and protest. Go keep drinking the kool-aid!

And oh yeah, last I checked NYC is not Manhattan.

Please explain to me what is wrong with the protesting of Wall Street. Ive got friends down there who are protesting - who got laid off from jobs - can barely afford rent and are at an age where just packing up and going home to ma/pa is not an option.


Wow!  Can't afford rent in New York City?!?!?!  Get OUT!  No, I mean if you can't afford rent where you want to live, get out.  Move somewhere where you can afford rent and get a job.  Where's the protest for hipsters who live in NYC and have nothing better to do than stand in a line around a city block to see Radiohead?

Brian
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on October 05, 2011, 03:52:28 pm
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Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: xneverwherex on October 05, 2011, 03:55:57 pm
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Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 05, 2011, 04:16:28 pm
Please explain to me what is wrong with the protesting of Wall Street. Ive got friends down there who are protesting - who got laid off from jobs - can barely afford rent and are at an age where just packing up and going home to ma/pa is not an option.


It is basically just a bunch of spoiled, whiny Gen-Ys searching for any "cause" on which they can vent their personal disaffection.  Nothing like some nebulous boogieman of "financial greed and corruption" to get their collectivist juices flowing. 

If they had a shave (both sexes) showered and took some pride in their appearence a company may actually want to hire them.......that is in fact, if they even want a job.

I've been laid off a couple of times and decided looking for another job was more productive than sitting in the middle of the road sulking.
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: RustyOrgan on October 05, 2011, 04:47:35 pm
Veterans Doubt Iraq, Afghanistan Wars Worth Fighting, Study Finds
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/files/2011/10/war-and-sacrifice-in-the-post-9-11-era.pdf
Title: Re: *ROLL CALL* The Great Michael Moore SUN 10/2/11 5PM
Post by: Frank Gallagher on October 05, 2011, 05:13:47 pm
Veterans Doubt Iraq, Afghanistan Wars Worth Fighting, Study Finds
http://www.pewsocialtrends.org/files/2011/10/war-and-sacrifice-in-the-post-9-11-era.pdf

Iraq, in my opinion, was a personal vendetta from Dubya to Sadam Hussein for the attempted assasination on his dad. There was absolutely no benefit to the USA to invade Iraq. Dubya should be investigated for war crimes over this.

Afghanistan had merit, the only problem was the military was not allowed to go in...do it's fucking job, then get the fuck out. They may as well have sent them in with water pistols. This going in half-arsed makes no sense so they should not have gone it at all.

Like it or not, war has been declared against us by a faction of the muslim faith. The Taliban harbored these radicals so they need to be taken the fuck out, so you, me and our families can live in peace and not worry about being blown into little pieces during our commute to work. I lived in Manchester in the 70's so have experienced what terrorists do first hand. My mother missed being blown up by a matter of seconds in the city center, and I was in a department store when a bomb went off two floors below me.

These bastards see negotiation as a sign of weakness...they only understand force.

Don't be so naive by thinking we can talk our way out of this fuck up...