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Title: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: TonyTonorro on November 16, 2011, 10:48:34 am
A 12:30 am set time for the headliner (Peter Murphy) is absurd and inconsiderate of concert goers.  I understand that the club needs to occassionally double up on shows for financial reasons, but still you gotta put the headliner on at a reasonable time.  I bought a ticket expecting a reasonable time.  Concert goers have to work in the morning.  What's next?  Three shows a night?  Final headliners going on at 3 am?  You gotta draw the line somewhere and this set time has passed it.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2011, 10:56:08 am
gotta admit i have to agree with TonyT...but the issue is there is one opener too many... thats why it goes on so late...


on the other hand I would personally love it...


but going on at 1230 means show ends about 2 am? that seems a bit strange


it is the godfather of goth though


don't let it bring you down TonyT..he put on a great show at the State Theatre ..
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 11:04:08 am
It's sort of a nocturnal paradox...

Since all of Peter Murphy's fans are vampires/goths, it only seems right that he'd be playing the late show.

Then again, maybe somebody named "Owl City" should be playing the late show.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: MindCage on November 16, 2011, 11:17:59 am
Both SWR and Peter Murphy will be playing 75 min sets so yeah, the show will be over close to 2am.  Did you not see the doors open at 10pm time when you purchased your tickets? That would have been a red flag that the show would be a late one. I'm not sure why you're blaming the club for being "inconsiderate to concertgoers."  Are you some crotchy old man Tony??? I do agree that it would be nice if the headliner was on at midnight instead of 12:30 but...

Remember when you were younger, and you really didn't care about staying out late on a work/school night? Sure you dragged a little the next day at work, but big deal, you had a fun night.

That's what tonight is about...
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2011, 11:21:32 am
it tickets said doors open at 10 not much to argue about..


enjoy the show!
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: TonyTonorro on November 16, 2011, 11:24:30 am
Initially only two bands were listed.  Doors open at 10 implied to me that SWR would go on at about 10:15 and PM about 11:30.  I would not have complained about that.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Nigel Tufnel on November 16, 2011, 11:29:32 am
Initially only two bands were listed.  Doors open at 10 implied to me that SWR would go on at about 10:15 and PM about 11:30.  I would not have complained about that.

Do opening acts generally go on 15 minutes after doors?  I thought it was more like an hour.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: TonyTonorro on November 16, 2011, 11:35:31 am
When there is a late show, I have noticed that the support bands do hit the stage fairly quickly after the doors open.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: MindCage on November 16, 2011, 11:54:58 am
When you have two bands "Co-Headlining" a tour, there usually will still be a support act (not including any local/regional opener)

Hussle Club sounds rather interesting for a support act...their cover of The Cult's "She Sells Sactuary" sounds like it was done by The Sisters of Mercy right down to the bad drum programming :D

Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Christine Moritz on November 16, 2011, 11:57:22 am
I have to admit I did a double take when I saw the set times; I wasn't too pleased either.

As others have noted, I think the problem is that there are two co-headliners rather than just one headliner.  It's been a while since I've been to a 9:30 Club show with 10 p.m. doors, but my recollection is that usually the opener would go on at 10:30 and the headliner would go on at 11:30 and be done by around 1.

I'm thinking about taking a disco nap and then arriving at the club maybe around midnight.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: DotTheEyes on November 16, 2011, 11:58:10 am
"Hussle Club" just ruined everything.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: MindCage on November 16, 2011, 12:26:07 pm
I have to admit I did a double take when I saw the set times; I wasn't too pleased either.

As others have noted, I think the problem is that there are two co-headliners rather than just one headliner.  It's been a while since I've been to a 9:30 Club show with 10 p.m. doors, but my recollection is that usually the opener would go on at 10:30 and the headliner would go on at 11:30 and be done by around 1.

I'm thinking about taking a disco nap and then arriving at the club maybe around midnight.

Actually it's up on the main page

Doors 10pm
Hussle Club 10:15
SWR 11:00
Petey Murphy 12:30
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: MindCage on November 16, 2011, 12:26:38 pm
"Hussle Club" just ruined everything.

Hussle and Flow
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Christine Moritz on November 16, 2011, 12:31:18 pm
Actually it's up on the main page

Doors 10pm
Hussle Club 10:15
SWR 11:00
Petey Murphy 12:30

Right; I was just comparing tonight's set times to my recollection of "usual" set times for 10 p.m. shows.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Thousand Made-Up Loves on November 16, 2011, 12:39:32 pm
Cuing the fucking assholes who told me to find my own way home from a concert instead of expecting Velvet Lounge to put on their headliners before 11:30pm.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: lagas on November 16, 2011, 01:48:35 pm
Cuing the fucking assholes who told me to find my own way home from a concert instead of expecting Velvet Lounge to put on their headliners before 11:30pm.

My take for POTW
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: chaz on November 16, 2011, 02:34:56 pm
Cuing the fucking assholes who told me to find my own way home from a concert instead of expecting Velvet Lounge to put on their headliners before 11:30pm.
The nerve of those people, not adjusting their schedule to yours.  If they had any decency they'd move to Rockville to make going there more convenient for you.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2011, 02:39:38 pm
Cuing the fucking assholes who told me to find my own way home from a concert instead of expecting Velvet Lounge to put on their headliners before 11:30pm.
The nerve of those people, not adjusting their schedule to yours.  If they had any decency they'd move to Rockville to make going there more convenient for you.


ha ha..the Velvet Lounge in Rockville.. thats funny!
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: James Ford on November 16, 2011, 02:40:20 pm
Isn't it good business practice to listen to your customers?

Cuing the fucking assholes who told me to find my own way home from a concert instead of expecting Velvet Lounge to put on their headliners before 11:30pm.
The nerve of those people, not adjusting their schedule to yours.  If they had any decency they'd move to Rockville to make going there more convenient for you.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Vas Deferens on November 16, 2011, 02:55:02 pm
this is the POTW.

Cuing the fucking assholes who told me to find my own way home from a concert instead of expecting Velvet Lounge to put on their headliners before 11:30pm.
The nerve of those people, not adjusting their schedule to yours.  If they had any decency they'd move to Rockville to make going there more convenient for you.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: chaz on November 16, 2011, 03:09:56 pm
Of course it is, but it's also infantile to expect all your suggestions and complaints to be accommodated.



Isn't it good business practice to listen to your customers?

Cuing the fucking assholes who told me to find my own way home from a concert instead of expecting Velvet Lounge to put on their headliners before 11:30pm.
The nerve of those people, not adjusting their schedule to yours.  If they had any decency they'd move to Rockville to make going there more convenient for you.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: sweetcell on November 16, 2011, 03:11:55 pm
Cuing the fucking assholes who told me to find my own way home from a concert instead of expecting Velvet Lounge to put on their headliners before 11:30pm.

they are right here in this thread, telling TonyT the same thing they told you: suck it up.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 16, 2011, 04:30:10 pm
is peter murphy . . . that good?  never listened, i don't think.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: MindCage on November 16, 2011, 04:30:56 pm
they are right here in this thread, telling TonyT the same thing they told you: suck it up.

 :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: hutch on November 16, 2011, 04:40:38 pm
is peter murphy . . . that good?  never listened, i don't think.


actually yes... that good..unbelievable voice..great performer...at the state theatre show he really exuded a lecherous persona


you may have heard of bauhaus....
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Got Haggis? on November 16, 2011, 04:46:12 pm
yeah, i was going to go to this show since I missed the Baltimore show, but no way can I go to work on time the next day with that start time, heh.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on November 16, 2011, 05:17:09 pm
i've heard of bauhaus . . . but that whole era, scared me.

i was too busy listening to dead kennedys and the circle jerks.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: hutch on November 17, 2011, 07:35:55 am
TonyT, you still at the show or has it let out by now?
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Seth Hurwitz on November 17, 2011, 09:29:44 am
what I'm hearing is that a (slightly) older crowd does not want to be out that late, probably especially on a weekday

we were concerned about that on this one, but this was the only date to do the show and we already had the earlier show booked

perhaps it would've been better to let it play elsewhere

anyway, duly noted and, yes, we listen
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: MindCage on November 17, 2011, 09:35:36 am
While I think half the crowd left after She Wants Revenge, I do think there was still a decent turn out for a late performance.  Those that stayed, got to enjoy Peter Murphy sounding awesome.

Thanks for having this show Seth!
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Yada on November 17, 2011, 09:37:57 am
Just walked to work from the 930 Club... show just ended about an hour ago.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: TonyTonorro on November 17, 2011, 01:03:53 pm
what I'm hearing is that a (slightly) older crowd does not want to be out that late, probably especially on a weekday

we were concerned about that on this one, but this was the only date to do the show and we already had the earlier show booked

perhaps it would've been better to let it play elsewhere

anyway, duly noted and, yes, we listen

I did stay to the end (2:15) and did greatly enjoy it.  There is certainly no better venue to hear Peter Murphy than the 9:30 club and despite my complaints, ultimately, I would prefer you do what you did rather than pass up on the show.  I guess the problem came from the unusal situation where both bills had three bands.  My only advice would be to try to minimize this and do your best to compress schedules without compromising set length.  Could you have started the first show earlier?
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: TonyTonorro on November 17, 2011, 01:16:26 pm
what I'm hearing is that a (slightly) older crowd does not want to be out that late, probably especially on a weekday

we were concerned about that on this one, but this was the only date to do the show and we already had the earlier show booked

perhaps it would've been better to let it play elsewhere

anyway, duly noted and, yes, we listen

Oh, and I am "slightly" older only by the calendar :)
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Christine Moritz on November 17, 2011, 03:29:02 pm
I did stay to the end (2:15) and did greatly enjoy it.  There is certainly no better venue to hear Peter Murphy than the 9:30 club and despite my complaints, ultimately, I would prefer you do what you did rather than pass up on the show. 

Agreed.  I really enjoyed this show and was glad to see it at the 9:30 Club.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Fooer on November 20, 2011, 01:17:05 am
TonyTonorro I do agree with you about shows with the Headliner starting late.  There have been a few shows that go late at 9:30 Club that I have seen.  Foo Fighters 2005, Beastie Boys due to the train being late, Live after headlining the HFStival in 2001 at 1:30 a.m. in the morning and Robert Rudoph and the Family Band.  There have been 3 shows I think at 9:30 Club in one day back in 2002 show in the afternoon and 2 different shows at night.  TonyTonorro I do agree people have to go to work.  How about weekend shows end late past Midnight to 2 or 3 a.m. in the morning and weekday shows have to end no matter what at 1 a.m. and doors have to open no later than 10 p.m.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: azaghal1981 on November 20, 2011, 01:37:58 am
Last call is at 2 on weeknights.


Honestly, we're spoiled with concerts ending as early as they do in DC. In every other city I know of, shows letting out before 12:00 are the exception, not the rule. Be grateful that we only have to encounter this a few shows a year. Just ask anyone from the Baltimore area what the average end time for a show is. If you get the occasional show that ends late, either suck it up or stay home.
Sounds as though those who sucked it up in this case are happy they did.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: betao on November 20, 2011, 04:59:28 am
anybody have a setlist from the show? i'd love to know what he played
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: Seth Hurwitz on November 20, 2011, 09:35:20 am
TonyTonorro I do agree with you about shows with the Headliner starting late.  There have been a few shows that go late at 9:30 Club that I have seen.  Foo Fighters 2005, Beastie Boys due to the train being late, Live after headlining the HFStival in 2001 at 1:30 a.m. in the morning and Robert Rudoph and the Family Band.  There have been 3 shows I think at 9:30 Club in one day back in 2002 show in the afternoon and 2 different shows at night.  TonyTonorro I do agree people have to go to work.  How about weekend shows end late past Midnight to 2 or 3 a.m. in the morning and weekday shows have to end no matter what at 1 a.m. and doors have to open no later than 10 p.m.

wow, you have seen some real classics!
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 20, 2011, 10:06:47 am
anybody have a setlist from the show? i'd love to know what he played

http://930club.tumblr.com/post/12938307650/setlist-peter-murphy-11-16-11
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: hutch on November 20, 2011, 11:21:16 am
anybody have a setlist from the show? i'd love to know what he played

http://930club.tumblr.com/post/12938307650/setlist-peter-murphy-11-16-11


interesting..probably a longer set list than at the state theatre.. i'd have to look at mine...

certainly don't remember she's in parties but at the 930 i don't notice bela lugosi!
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: TonyTonorro on November 20, 2011, 12:07:28 pm
anybody have a setlist from the show? i'd love to know what he played

http://930club.tumblr.com/post/12938307650/setlist-peter-murphy-11-16-11


interesting..probably a longer set list than at the state theatre.. i'd have to look at mine...

certainly don't remember she's in parties but at the 930 i don't notice bela lugosi!

I've been to many Peter Murphy shows before and I had never seen him play past 60 minutes.  You could set a clock to it.  But for this one, he played a full 90 minute set.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: TonyTonorro on November 20, 2011, 12:10:20 pm
anybody have a setlist from the show? i'd love to know what he played

http://930club.tumblr.com/post/12938307650/setlist-peter-murphy-11-16-11

This set list doesn't match what I remember.  Particularly in the encores.  There was no third encore and the second was Ziggy Stardust.
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: betao on November 20, 2011, 01:51:26 pm
If you guys got all of those Bauhaus tracks (plus Deep Ocean Vast Sea), then I'm going to kick myself for not going.

I talked to the drummer of the band when they came down to Richmond last March. He was telling me that the show hardly ever follows the setlist, that Peter just changes it up so often. The printed setlist is kinda just "something to follow". Peter loves improvisation.

Thanks for the link, Kosmo. Do you guys post setlists regularly on that site?
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: kosmo vinyl on November 20, 2011, 07:46:33 pm
The posting of band setlists on the 9:30 Club Tumblr is a recent addition, which I have nothing to do with..

http://930club.tumblr.com/
Title: Re: 12:30 AM set time for Peter Murphy is absurd
Post by: MindCage on November 21, 2011, 09:37:41 am
anybody have a setlist from the show? i'd love to know what he played

http://930club.tumblr.com/post/12938307650/setlist-peter-murphy-11-16-11

This set list doesn't match what I remember.  Particularly in the encores.  There was no third encore and the second was Ziggy Stardust.

It's because it wasn't a traditional type of encore.  He definitely played  NIN's "Hurt" a la Cash style...