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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: BrettnotBritt on March 13, 2012, 01:41:12 pm
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So I'm trying to book a band to play in my hometown (complete n00b at this btw), however, I know next to nothing about submitting offers to talent agencies, offer sheets, etc. I already talked to the owner of the venue, and he is down for having said band as long as the guarantee is reasonable and the date they want is available. I have also talked to the talent agency and they are simply waiting for an offer as the band has availability.
The question is: how do I go about submitting an offer to the talent agency? What does it involve, the format, etc.?
Any responses/advice would be much appreciated, thanks.
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i thought most bands have talent agencies that tell you how much the band costs. i would bid low and wait for a counter offer.
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Or just an email that includes a date and a dollar amount.
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Adhere to the Oxford Format. 1.244" margins font size 11 Calibri, double spaced.
Or just an email that includes a date and a dollar amount.
Ha thanks. The main problem is the dollar amount - not sure what exactly is a good starting point. The venue is small (300 people) and they're currently not drawing sold out crowds. I just need a good number to start out with I guess.
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Start with what the club owner considers reasonable. Make the offer. They will either accept, decline or counter.
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So I'm trying to book a band to play in my hometown (complete n00b at this btw), however, I know next to nothing about submitting offers to talent agencies, offer sheets, etc. I already talked to the owner of the venue, and he is down for having said band as long as the guarantee is reasonable and the date they want is available. I have also talked to the talent agency and they are simply waiting for an offer as the band has availability.
The question is: how do I go about submitting an offer to the talent agency? What does it involve, the format, etc.?
Any responses/advice would be much appreciated, thanks.
Are we related?
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Hey man, I've been booking for 9 years and know many of these booking agents well. If you PM me who you're trying to book, where, and whom you're communicating with, I can probably give you some advice.
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Hey man, I've been booking for 9 years and know many of these booking agents well. If you PM me who you're trying to book, where, and whom you're communicating with, I can probably give you some advice.
very nice fella here
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Long story short, I initiated contact with a band/agent that had avails, however, I was going to be out of town for those dates. Since I could not promote the show without physically being there, I relegated to another promoter that I had met/talked to last month. Apparently they were able to strike a deal as the show has officially been announced, but this person is now taking full credit and left me completely out of the loop despite saying they would when I passed it onto this party.
Color me shocked/confused since I basically hand-delivered the band to this person and they have not emailed me in over two weeks. I'm trying to figure out the best way to go about this as I don't want to sever ties with this individual, but this is some awful shady shit.
And while I'm not promoting the show, the fact that this person is taking full credit is BS. Do I have a case to argue here or just let it go?
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I'm sure Lionel Hutz would take your case.
(http://thebyronicmandotcom2.files.wordpress.com/2012/04/11239627x18-el-da-en-que-m.jpg?w=300&h=225)
Brett, the state bar forbids me from promising you a big cash settlement. But just between you and me: I. Promise you. A Big. Cash. Settlement.
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Long story short, I initiated contact with a band/agent that had avails, however, I was going to be out of town for those dates. Since I could not promote the show without physically being there, I relegated to another promoter that I had met/talked to last month. Apparently they were able to strike a deal as the show has officially been announced, but this person is now taking full credit and left me completely out of the loop despite saying they would when I passed it onto this party.
Color me shocked/confused since I basically hand-delivered the band to this person and they have not emailed me in over two weeks. I'm trying to figure out the best way to go about this as I don't want to sever ties with this individual, but this is some awful shady shit.
And while I'm not promoting the show, the fact that this person is taking full credit is BS. Do I have a case to argue here or just let it go?
I don't understand the problem. Were you supposed to get a cut of the $, or something more amorphous like "credit" for the show, your name (or production company name) on the posters?, free tickets?
It's hard to know whether the promoter breached his deal with you, without a clear articulation of the terms of the deal.
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To clarify, I'm just looking for some sort of credit, co-billing, etc. It's not even about the money for me, just recognition at the very least.
The event would not be taking place had I not contacted their agency, found out their avails, and passed them onto the promoter after I found out that I could not be in town for the dates they were asking.
I don't understand the problem. Were you supposed to get a cut of the $, or something more amorphous like "credit" for the show, your name (or production company name) on the posters?, free tickets?
It's hard to know whether the promoter breached his deal with you, without a clear articulation of the terms of the deal.
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To clarify, I'm just looking for some sort of credit, co-billing, etc. It's not even about the money for me, just recognition at the very least.
The event would not be taking place had I not contacted their agency, found out their avails, and passed them onto the promoter after I found out that I could not be in town for the dates they were asking.
I don't understand the problem. Were you supposed to get a cut of the $, or something more amorphous like "credit" for the show, your name (or production company name) on the posters?, free tickets?
It's hard to know whether the promoter breached his deal with you, without a clear articulation of the terms of the deal.
It sounds like you are looking for what is fair rather than what was explicitly discussed/agreed. The former is not enforceable, the latter may be. Move on from this experience and get it in writing next time.
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if it were me, I would tell this person that next time you will do things without them if this is how you are going to be treated
then make good on that threat
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if it were me, I would tell this person that next time you will do things without them if this is how you are going to be treated
then make good on that threat
Listen to this man.
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Curious, could you have still helped to promote the show despite being out of town?
I'd be looking more for a booking %$ than name credit since you are not actively promoting, sponsoring, or attending the show. (Perhaps this is what they thought?)
If you have emails or even voice mails from said person, stating your expectations, that's something, albeit not a contract. But if you have not heard from them, what can you do? Not sure it's kosher to contact the talent or venue at this point. Other than maybe reach out to them for future business.
At the very least it's on your list of experience if you have the venue/talent as a reference, and documentation if anyone wants to check.
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At first, this person had offered to team up and co-promote the show assuming I'd be in town. Once I realized that the band's avails were when I was going to be away, I still offered to kick-in towards the guarantee, make efforts to promote the show, etc. The promoter declined and said I have to be physically present to properly promote the show, but said I could still help out in writing a press release or sending out a newsletter. The promoter had also tried and failed to get them into town last winter FWIW.
The thing is that I have a lot of friends in the area that would go to the show, a graphic designer that would design a concert poster, and so forth. But the fact that this person basically kept me out of the loop despite saying otherwise makes me want to take Seth's advice in a heartbeat. The Twitter and FB show announcements of "So and so Presents" is just salt in the wound when the show would not even be happening without my initial emails with the band's agency and passing it onto this person.
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if it were me, I would tell this person that next time you will do things without them if this is how you are going to be treated
then make good on that threat
Listen to this man.
Pssssh, what does he know?? ;)
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So after many trials and tribulations, I'm proud to announce that my first show is officially booked. If any of you guys reside in upstate New York, be sure to check out Southeast Engine this coming Tuesday (11/6) at Red Square in Albany.
They are actually playing the Dunes this Saturday if you're in DC this weekend.
Huge props to all on here (especially Snailhook and Seth) for the advice and words of encouragement.