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Title: 2012 best shows
Post by: stevewizzle on December 05, 2012, 10:35:38 am
not to overflow the board with "best of" lists, but i'm interested in hearing what everyone's favorite shows were this year.

notables for me:
gary clark jr @ 930
white denim @ rnr
joy formidable @ st. stephens
destroyer @ 930
bahamas @ iota

most were out of my control, but regret missing swans @ bc, cloud nothings @ red palace, titus @ rnr, the men @ dc9, and beach house @ 930.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Relaxer on December 05, 2012, 10:53:47 am
Metz at Red Palace destroyed everything I'd seen this year
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: imbecile on December 05, 2012, 11:23:53 am
I'm sure I'll come up with more.. but the ones that really stick out are:

Sharon Van Etten - Black Cat
ExitMusic - Red Palace
Conor Oberst / Daniel Johnston - Warner Theater
Screeching Weasel - Sonar
Refused - Fillmore

..and the worst thing I saw all year
Game 5 of the Nationals/Cardinals series.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: atomicfront on December 05, 2012, 11:35:03 am
1. Of monsters and men - tower theater philly
2.  Polyphonic spree - sixth and i
3. Jens lekman - 930
4. Jeff Magnum - Lincoln theater
5. Florence and the machine - mpp
6. Wye oak - scapescape
7. Santigold - virgin fest
8. Magnetic fields - 930
9. Okkervil river - rams head
10. Dum dum girls - ottobar
11. M83 - virgin fest
12.  Celebration/lower dens - ottobar
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: stevewizzle on December 05, 2012, 11:37:17 am
..and the worst thing I saw all year
Game 5 of the Nationals/Cardinals series.

missed swans (and cloud nothings, i guess) that night for this.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: hutch on December 05, 2012, 11:45:24 am
I need to start keeping a journal or something...
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: K8teebug on December 05, 2012, 11:52:31 am
I didn't go to many shows this year.  But Cloud Nothings at Red Palace was #1.

Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: K8teebug on December 05, 2012, 11:52:51 am
Metz at Red Palace destroyed everything I'd seen this year


Wish I would have gone to that.  Am LOVING their album.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: chaz on December 05, 2012, 12:05:18 pm
#1 for me was Spiritualized @ Cat's Cradle Raleigh NC

Probably #2 was Hot Chelle Rae at the club, not because I was into it but because I took my kids (8 and 10) and they had the BEST time.  We met all 3 bands and it was just AMAZING to watch them soak it in and have the time of their lives.

Thanks for that memory Seth!
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: James Ford on December 05, 2012, 12:36:09 pm
My Morning Jacket at Merriweather
Dr. Dog at 9:30 (Spring show)
Bob Mould doing Copper Blue at 9:30
The Walkmen at 9:30
Justin Townes Earle and Tift Merritt at Rams Head Live
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: atomicfront on December 05, 2012, 12:48:32 pm
I don't think we need another thread for worst shows so I will just add them here:

Worst Shows of the Year:

1) Jesus and Mary Chain-- 930 club  Just too loud.  Couldn't hear the vocals after the 5th song.  I will say everyone but the lead singer were pretty bad

2) MMJ - MPP -  Senseless jams become boring pretty quick.  Felt like I was transported back to the 70's with the endless guitar solos.

3) Bowerbirds - ottobar - just boring.

4) Ben Folds Five - Virgin Fest - Ben Folds just isn't good live.  I saw him without the five before and he was equally as bad.

Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: bearman🐻 on December 05, 2012, 01:47:16 pm
Iggy and the Stooges @ Riotfest Chicago
Afghan Whigs @ 9:30
Descendents @ Riotfest Chicago
Hives @ 9:30
Radiohead @ Verizon
Face to Face (acoustic) @ Upstairs at Trocadero
Death Cab @ Strathmore
Bad Religion @ the Mall
Feelies @ 9:30
Social D @ 9:30
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: James Ford on December 05, 2012, 01:56:17 pm
Worst shows for me:

ZZ Top, Alabama Shakes, M83 at VFest
Heartless Bastards at Black Cat (better than the three listed above, but expected more)
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: James Ford on December 05, 2012, 02:28:34 pm
I remember when your kids was a three year old singing along with Ramones songs. Seems his taste has gone downhill!

#1 for me was Spiritualized @ Cat's Cradle Raleigh NC

Probably #2 was Hot Chelle Rae at the club, not because I was into it but because I took my kids (8 and 10) and they had the BEST time.  We met all 3 bands and it was just AMAZING to watch them soak it in and have the time of their lives.

Thanks for that memory Seth!
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: chaz on December 05, 2012, 03:16:38 pm
I remember when your kids was a three year old singing along with Ramones songs. Seems his taste has gone downhill!

#1 for me was Spiritualized @ Cat's Cradle Raleigh NC

Probably #2 was Hot Chelle Rae at the club, not because I was into it but because I took my kids (8 and 10) and they had the BEST time.  We met all 3 bands and it was just AMAZING to watch them soak it in and have the time of their lives.

Thanks for that memory Seth!
They still like the Ramones and Beach Boys (we saw them this year too and went backstage and met the band but not Brian) and my boy especially likes a lot of punk rock...He especially LOVES Operation Ivy for some crazy reason...

But yeah they are kids and have their own thing too.  I'm just happy they were real bands with real instruments...could be a lot worse!  I did attend the Justin Beiber show a few weeks ago...a birthday surprise for my daughter.  You should have seen her when I told her to get dressed and get in the car to go to the show.  She lost it.  So worth it just for that moment alone.

My concert wish for 2013 is a Rancid US tour so I can take my son.  He loves them too.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Yada on December 05, 2012, 03:21:26 pm
I remember when your kids was a three year old singing along with Ramones songs. Seems his taste has gone downhill!

#1 for me was Spiritualized @ Cat's Cradle Raleigh NC

Probably #2 was Hot Chelle Rae at the club, not because I was into it but because I took my kids (8 and 10) and they had the BEST time.  We met all 3 bands and it was just AMAZING to watch them soak it in and have the time of their lives.

Thanks for that memory Seth!
They still like the Ramones and Beach Boys (we saw them this year too and went backstage and met the band but not Brian) and my boy especially likes a lot of punk rock...He especially LOVES Operation Ivy for some crazy reason...

But yeah they are kids and have their own thing too.  I'm just happy they were real bands with real instruments...could be a lot worse!  I did attend the Justin Beiber show a few weeks ago...a birthday surprise for my daughter.  You should have seen her when I told her to get dressed and get in the car to go to the show.  She lost it.  So worth it just for that moment alone.

My concert wish for 2013 is a Rancid US tour so I can take my son.  He loves them too.

Funny you say that... been on a major Rancid kick for the last month or so and have been punching myself in the junk for not checking out their black cat shows a few years ago. I don't think I've seen them since the mid 90's. They're touring the UK right now...
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: vansmack on December 05, 2012, 04:02:17 pm
My concert wish for 2013 is a Rancid US tour so I can take my son.  He loves them too.

Funny you say that... been on a major Rancid kick for the last month or so and have been punching myself in the junk for not checking out their black cat shows a few years ago. I don't think I've seen them since the mid 90's. They're touring the UK right now...

I saw them in March in a dual bill with Cock Sparrer at the Warfield.  Cock Sparrer were better.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: chaz on December 05, 2012, 04:15:13 pm
I remember when your kids was a three year old singing along with Ramones songs. Seems his taste has gone downhill!

#1 for me was Spiritualized @ Cat's Cradle Raleigh NC

Probably #2 was Hot Chelle Rae at the club, not because I was into it but because I took my kids (8 and 10) and they had the BEST time.  We met all 3 bands and it was just AMAZING to watch them soak it in and have the time of their lives.

Thanks for that memory Seth!
They still like the Ramones and Beach Boys (we saw them this year too and went backstage and met the band but not Brian) and my boy especially likes a lot of punk rock...He especially LOVES Operation Ivy for some crazy reason...

But yeah they are kids and have their own thing too.  I'm just happy they were real bands with real instruments...could be a lot worse!  I did attend the Justin Beiber show a few weeks ago...a birthday surprise for my daughter.  You should have seen her when I told her to get dressed and get in the car to go to the show.  She lost it.  So worth it just for that moment alone.

My concert wish for 2013 is a Rancid US tour so I can take my son.  He loves them too.

Funny you say that... been on a major Rancid kick for the last month or so and have been punching myself in the junk for not checking out their black cat shows a few years ago. I don't think I've seen them since the mid 90's. They're touring the UK right now...
Wish I'd seen those too.  Last time was mid 90's at Nation or Capital Ballroom or whatever it was called then I think.

Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Unsanity on December 05, 2012, 05:53:08 pm
Metz at Red Palace was pretty awesome. Best line of the night: "Is that the fire alarm? We're gonna keep playing!" No one made for the exits because Metz was rocking too hard!

Graveyard at the Golden West was a great sold out show.

Rwake and Electric Wizard at Maryland Death Fest were pretty heavy.

Farm Fest was amazing as a whole. Loved every band but not the 100' heat.

Pig Destroyer's comeback show at the Ottobar was batshit insane.

Om a few weeks ago was incredible as well.

There is probably more.


Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Relaxer on December 05, 2012, 06:11:19 pm
Metz at Red Palace was pretty awesome. Best line of the night: "Is that the fire alarm? We're gonna keep playing!" No one made for the exits because Metz was rocking too hard!

I remember that. Visions of Great White definitely flashe through my head as I looked for where the exits were.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 05, 2012, 07:06:13 pm
Three that immediately come to mind:
Swans at BC
Spiritualized at Club
Grass Widow/Garland of Hours/Hand Grenade Job at Comet
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: chancegardener on December 05, 2012, 10:06:20 pm
Radiohead - Jobing Arena Phoenix 3/15/12
Wild Flag - 930 4/2/12
M83 - 930 5/12/12
Dead Can Dance - Wolf Trap 8/27
Peter Gabriel - Pat Ctr 10/14
Neil Young & Crazy Horse / Patti Smith Pat Ctr 11/30
... and Japandroids this Friday ....???
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 05, 2012, 11:03:27 pm
That Wild Flag show is up there for me too.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Darth Ed on December 06, 2012, 12:15:34 am
Roughly in this order:

2012/01/27 Jeff Mangum (Lincoln Theatre, Washington, DC)
2012/09/26 The Corin Tucker Band (Black Cat Backstage, Washington, DC)
2012/04/04 Wild Flag (9:30 Club, Washington, DC)
2012/10/14 Peter Gabriel (Patriot Center, George Mason University, VA)
2012/10/02 First Aid Kit (6th and I Synagogue, Washington, DC)
2012/10/12 Jens Lekman (9:30 Club, Washington, DC)
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Here's the thing on December 06, 2012, 07:32:14 am
Old 97's @ 9:30
Jeff Mangum @ Lincoln Theater
Polyphonic Spree @ 6th and I
Bob Mould @ 9:30
Wilco @ Wolftrap
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: jrho on December 06, 2012, 08:26:57 am
Wild Flag at 9:30
The Ting Tings at 9:30
Meshell Ndegeocello, Dumpstaphunk, George Clinton and the Parliament Funkadelic part of the Folklife Festival on the Mall
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Cock Van Der Palm on December 06, 2012, 10:46:07 am
Dick and the Wholes - Manny's on the Water
Phydo and the Kay-9's - The Goldstar
The Herschel Goldfarb Five  -  YidFest 5773
Winnie and the Poohs  - Tipitino's
The Reacharounds - Max's

Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: atomicfront on December 06, 2012, 10:54:10 am
Roughly in this order:

2012/01/27 Jeff Mangum (Lincoln Theatre, Washington, DC)


I didn't realize Magnum was this year.   That should be on my list
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 06, 2012, 12:34:40 pm
Mission of Burma should be on my list, too. Feel pretty good about that top 5. The best of my three MoB gigs.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Darth Ed on December 06, 2012, 03:52:23 pm
Ugh, I had a ticket to Mission of Burma, but I stayed home because I was sick. :(
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: hutch on December 06, 2012, 04:13:14 pm
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion at U Street Hall
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: andyrichter on December 06, 2012, 05:43:43 pm
top 10 in no particular order:
Bob Mould @ Williamsburg Park
The Walkmen/ Dum Dum Girls @ Terminal 5
No Joy @ Bowery Ballroom
Veronica Falls @ South Street seaport
Garbage @ Webster Hall
True Widow @ Union Pool
Frankie Rose/Diiv @ Mercury Lounge
Wild Flag @ Webster Hall
Sick of it all @ Irving Plaza
Bleached @ Knitting Factory


Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 06, 2012, 06:03:24 pm
I'm like hutch, can't remember what all i went to but these stand out

The Bigger Lovers / Cliff Hillis - Johnny Brenda's
Ash - DC9
JC Brooks and Uptown Sound - Tropicalia

biggest disappointment - Saint Etienne
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: hutch on December 06, 2012, 06:15:24 pm
I'm going to go through my records at some point and work on it here


El Vez at U Hall
Ash at DC Nine
Bob Dylan at Wicomico Convention Center
Babasonicos at Howard Theatre (maybe #1)
J Geils Band at Fillmore
PIL at 930
JSBX at U Hall
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: dyecraig on December 06, 2012, 07:08:05 pm
neil young w/crazy horse - gmu & outside lands (sf)
peter gabriel - gmu
rollins - 9:30
sun kil moon - howard
rodriguez - 6th & I
dirty three - 6th & I
foo fighters - outside lands
house band @ the tonga room (fairmont hotel - sf) - jack white was at the next table, but that's another story
radiohead - verizon
andrew bird - wyep studios pittsburgH
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 06, 2012, 07:08:58 pm
Oh man Frankie Rose. She would definitely be in the second half of my top 5. Actually that whole first Chickfactor night would. Believe it or not, I found the first night (with Stevie Jackson and Frankie Rose) better on the whole than the Black Tambourine night (they and Lorelei were both great, not too much else stood out). Hard for me to remember all I saw too.
The Feelies would be in there.

Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Relaxer on December 06, 2012, 09:29:52 pm
The worst set I saw was easily Elite Gymnastics, opener for Grimes
I like EG's eps a lot and was really looking forward to this but it was the biggest joke, definitely in my top 5 worst sets ever
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: hutch on December 06, 2012, 10:18:00 pm

house band @ the tonga room (fairmont hotel - sf) - jack white was at the next table, but that's another story



oh, do tell....
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 07, 2012, 12:44:45 am
The Clean and Times New Viking would be in my top ten, too. Probably top three if the venue didn't partially fuck up the vibe.


Show automatically loses points for being at the Blowtel through no fault of any of the performers.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: James Ford on December 07, 2012, 09:15:33 am
So when a show "lacks energy" and people blame the audience (instead of the band), is it really the fault of the venue?

The Clean and Times New Viking would be in my top ten, too. Probably top three if the venue didn't partially fuck up the vibe.


Show automatically loses points for being at the Blowtel through no fault of any of the performers.

Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: atomicfront on December 07, 2012, 11:11:22 am
I'm going to go through my records at some point and work on it here


El Vez at U Hall
Ash at DC Nine
Bob Dylan at Wicomico Convention Center
Babasonicos at Howard Theatre (maybe #1)
J Geils Band at Fillmore
PIL at 930
JSBX at U Hall

Now I know why Hutch doesn't like DAR.  He only sees bands 30 years past their prime and then blames the bad show on the venue.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: eros on December 07, 2012, 11:20:29 am
Pulp at Radio City

(with honorable mentions to Ash and Mayer Hawthorne)

Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: hutch on December 07, 2012, 11:29:36 am
I'm going to go through my records at some point and work on it here


El Vez at U Hall
Ash at DC Nine
Bob Dylan at Wicomico Convention Center
Babasonicos at Howard Theatre (maybe #1)
J Geils Band at Fillmore
PIL at 930
JSBX at U Hall

Now I know why Hutch doesn't like DAR.  He only sees bands 30 years past their prime and then blames the bad show on the venue.


I just don't agree that bands are past their prime because people age.. I don't believe you have to be young to play music although you probably have to be young to play music for the young (and those still trying to be).. allowing for the effects of time the great performers only get better as they learn to get every nuance out of their talent.. I'm sure most performers would tell you that at 20 they didn't know jack shit about performing and where basically going on energy... as they get older they learn to perform.

But for the record Babasonicos, JSBX and Ash are in their "prime"...


I saw Pinetop Perkins when he was over 90... a great show...  Tony Bennett in his 80s still provided a great show at Wolftrap...

must be sad to be 47 though man... way past your "prime"...


as far as venues not sure what you're talking about... DAR is not a music venue... but I've seen good shows there...just don't believe in supporting venues that are deficient unless I feel I have to.. same goes for Rock and Roll Hotel, Patriot Center, Verizon Center etc... there are enough great venues in town to focus on.

having said all that, it is true that I'm finding it harder to get into the music of newer bands... I don't identify with it...and often when I try, say a Kurt Vile (that reminds me: worst show of the year?), I find it horrifying.. talk about boring and low energy no matter what his age is.... I can't believe people compare this guy to Bruce .. Bruce has more talent in half his smallest toe nail than Vile.


I'm always on the lookout for bands that play what I call Chuck Berry rock and roll (Berry, early Beatles, early Stones, Flamin Groovies, AC DC, Faces, etc.).. any suggestions most welcome !seriously.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: hutch on December 07, 2012, 11:45:19 am
Amadou and Mariam at 930 was also really good


maybe worst show other than Kurt Vile of course, Daryl Hall at the Warner.....ugh...
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: atomicfront on December 07, 2012, 12:21:24 pm
I'm going to go through my records at some point and work on it here


El Vez at U Hall
Ash at DC Nine
Bob Dylan at Wicomico Convention Center
Babasonicos at Howard Theatre (maybe #1)
J Geils Band at Fillmore
PIL at 930
JSBX at U Hall

Now I know why Hutch doesn't like DAR.  He only sees bands 30 years past their prime and then blames the bad show on the venue.


I just don't agree that bands are past their prime because people age.. I don't believe you have to be young to play music although you probably have to be young to play music for the young (and those still trying to be).. allowing for the effects of time the great performers only get better as they learn to get every nuance out of their talent.. I'm sure most performers would tell you that at 20 they didn't know jack shit about performing and where basically going on energy... as they get older they learn to perform.

But for the record Babasonicos, JSBX and Ash are in their "prime"...


I saw Pinetop Perkins when he was over 90... a great show...  Tony Bennett in his 80s still provided a great show at Wolftrap...

must be sad to be 47 though man... way past your "prime"...


as far as venues not sure what you're talking about... DAR is not a music venue... but I've seen good shows there...just don't believe in supporting venues that are deficient unless I feel I have to.. same goes for Rock and Roll Hotel, Patriot Center, Verizon Center etc... there are enough great venues in town to focus on.

having said all that, it is true that I'm finding it harder to get into the music of newer bands... I don't identify with it...and often when I try, say a Kurt Vile (that reminds me: worst show of the year?), I find it horrifying.. talk about boring and low energy no matter what his age is.... I can't believe people compare this guy to Bruce .. Bruce has more talent in half his smallest toe nail than Vile.


I'm always on the lookout for bands that play what I call Chuck Berry rock and roll (Berry, early Beatles, early Stones, Flamin Groovies, AC DC, Faces, etc.).. any suggestions most welcome !seriously.


Most musicians creative output is done by the time they hit 40.  You might find an occasional Johnny Cash or U2.  I wish more people could keep putting out great stuff as they get older.  But it just doesn't happen.  When was the last time Paul McCarntney had a great pop song?

I saw Pete Seeger peform at 92 and it was awesome.  Patti Smith wasn't bad last week but the songs she did that were good were from the 70's.  If she only did songs from the 70's the show would have been much better.  Plus when you are seeing bands you are most likely only seeing part of the bands. Like Jesus and Mary Chain when I saw them the first time they were amazing but Douglas Hart and Bobbie Gillepsie are long gone from that band.

Anyway I find it sad that you have given up on new music at your age.  If you like PIL you must have had a zest for new music once.  I suggest of Monsters and Men to you.  Every song on their album is great. 
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: chaz on December 07, 2012, 12:31:59 pm
The list of artists I enjoy who still (or have) put out great music past age 40 is so long I won't even try listing it. 
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: hutch on December 07, 2012, 12:32:31 pm
I'm going to go through my records at some point and work on it here


El Vez at U Hall
Ash at DC Nine
Bob Dylan at Wicomico Convention Center
Babasonicos at Howard Theatre (maybe #1)
J Geils Band at Fillmore
PIL at 930
JSBX at U Hall

Now I know why Hutch doesn't like DAR.  He only sees bands 30 years past their prime and then blames the bad show on the venue.


I just don't agree that bands are past their prime because people age.. I don't believe you have to be young to play music although you probably have to be young to play music for the young (and those still trying to be).. allowing for the effects of time the great performers only get better as they learn to get every nuance out of their talent.. I'm sure most performers would tell you that at 20 they didn't know jack shit about performing and where basically going on energy... as they get older they learn to perform.

But for the record Babasonicos, JSBX and Ash are in their "prime"...


I saw Pinetop Perkins when he was over 90... a great show...  Tony Bennett in his 80s still provided a great show at Wolftrap...

must be sad to be 47 though man... way past your "prime"...


as far as venues not sure what you're talking about... DAR is not a music venue... but I've seen good shows there...just don't believe in supporting venues that are deficient unless I feel I have to.. same goes for Rock and Roll Hotel, Patriot Center, Verizon Center etc... there are enough great venues in town to focus on.

having said all that, it is true that I'm finding it harder to get into the music of newer bands... I don't identify with it...and often when I try, say a Kurt Vile (that reminds me: worst show of the year?), I find it horrifying.. talk about boring and low energy no matter what his age is.... I can't believe people compare this guy to Bruce .. Bruce has more talent in half his smallest toe nail than Vile.


I'm always on the lookout for bands that play what I call Chuck Berry rock and roll (Berry, early Beatles, early Stones, Flamin Groovies, AC DC, Faces, etc.).. any suggestions most welcome !seriously.


Most musicians creative output is done by the time they hit 40.  You might find an occasional Johnny Cash or U2.  I wish more people could keep putting out great stuff as they get older.  But it just doesn't happen.  When was the last time Paul McCarntney had a great pop song?

I saw Pete Seeger peform at 92 and it was awesome.  Patti Smith wasn't bad last week but the songs she did that were good were from the 70's.  If she only did songs from the 70's the show would have been much better.  Plus when you are seeing bands you are most likely only seeing part of the bands. Like Jesus and Mary Chain when I saw them the first time they were amazing but Douglas Hart and Bobbie Gillepsie are long gone from that band.

Anyway I find it sad that you have given up on new music at your age.  If you like PIL you must have had a zest for new music once.  I suggest of Monsters and Men to you.  Every song on their album is great. 

Well, I think we look at differently... just because an artist isn't necessarily "writing" their best material doesn't mean they can't perform their albeit older material in really great ways... there is a difference between writing and performing...

Definitely have not "given up" on anything... although I don't think "new music" is better than "old music"..its all MUSIC.. I don't care that much when it was made.. I listen to stuff going from the 1920s on... I have 10,000 records in my basement and most of it is "old"..so what?

Also the new JSXB album is great... just because the hipsters moved on doesn't make it not so... and Bob Dylan's Tempest is fabulous.... the fact he is old is irrelevant....its great music.. same for Dr John's Locked Down

I dont' try to live my musical listening life like Pitchfork.. hypes up the one album then the follow up isn't as good and then they are over the hill at 23.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Vas Deferens on December 07, 2012, 12:36:41 pm
Nicolas Jaar @ FYF, Los Angeles
Bjork @ Roseland Ballroom
Antony & the Johnsons @ Radio City
PULP @ Radio City
Afghan Whigs @ 930
Omar Souleyman @930 & Mezzanine SF
Chromatics @ RNR/FYF
Tim Hecker @ Public Assembly
Bill Orcutt/Chris Corsano @ Wind Up Space
Dirty Three @ Sixth and I
ASH @ DC9
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion @ U Hall
Papa M @ Golden West Cafe
Ssion @ Ottobar
Trust @ 930
Fiona Apple @ Sixth and I
Shabazz Palaces @ Sonar
Cass Mccombs @ Ottobar
Refused @ Fillmore
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: atomicfront on December 07, 2012, 12:50:01 pm
Cass Mccombs @ Ottobar


I really hated this show.  First off he was performing in the dark.  Second I like that one album  (Wit's end)  but it seemed he was just playing straight ahead rock n roll that I find so boring.  I left after 5 songs.   I did enjoy both of the openers so it wasn't a total waste.  Frank Fairfield + Walker and Jay I believe.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Vas Deferens on December 07, 2012, 12:59:15 pm
Will it be more appealing to you if Cass has a song called "I"ll wait for you" and he sings that chorus 40 times in 4 minutes?


Cass Mccombs @ Ottobar


I really hated this show.  First off he was performing in the dark.  Second I like that one album  (Wit's end)  but it seemed he was just playing straight ahead rock n roll that I find so boring.  I left after 5 songs.   I did enjoy both of the openers so it wasn't a total waste.  Frank Fairfield + Walker and Jay I believe.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 07, 2012, 01:17:20 pm
The audience rarely, if ever, factors into my enjoyment of a show or lack there of. Big beefy "security" goons nearly knocking me over running around playing detective with flashlights in a crowd of the least druggy people ever (a fucking clean show!) all night can, though. That on top of all the other usual Hotel complaints.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: atomicfront on December 07, 2012, 01:22:44 pm
Will it be more appealing to you if Cass has a song called "I"ll wait for you" and he sings that chorus 40 times in 4 minutes?


Cass Mccombs @ Ottobar


I really hated this show.  First off he was performing in the dark.  Second I like that one album  (Wit's end)  but it seemed he was just playing straight ahead rock n roll that I find so boring.  I left after 5 songs.   I did enjoy both of the openers so it wasn't a total waste.  Frank Fairfield + Walker and Jay I believe.

If he played a banjo while singing it.  But really what was the deal with playing in the dark?
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: kosmo vinyl on December 07, 2012, 01:26:05 pm
Dismissing Paul McCartney's output means that one hasn't listen to the Fireman record he released for one thing...
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Yada on December 07, 2012, 02:55:41 pm
Real Estate @ Black Cat
Matthew E. White @ R+R Hotel
Sean Hayes @ Iota
Bahamas @ Iota
War on Drugs @ 930
Roger Waters @ Verizon
Phish @ AC
Dr. Dog/Avett Bros/Wilco @ Camden
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: James Ford on December 07, 2012, 04:00:13 pm
Exactly. And this has been a banner year for 40+ artists. Off of the top of my head, I can think of at least eight who will make my top 20 of the year list...


Neil Young
Leonard Cohen
Jimmy Cliff
Bob Mould
Rhett Miller
Wanda Jackson
Dwight Yoakam
Bryan Ferry Orchestra (does that one count?)


The list of artists I enjoy who still (or have) put out great music past age 40 is so long I won't even try listing it. 
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: i am gay and i like cats on December 07, 2012, 04:14:29 pm
1 show

1 show mattered

mattered so much the other shows can go away from my memory.  like a seizure expulsion.

dead milkmen @  u street

fuck yeah

Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: atomicfront on December 07, 2012, 05:52:48 pm
Exactly. And this has been a banner year for 40+ artists. Off of the top of my head, I can think of at least eight who will make my top 20 of the year list...


Neil Young
Leonard Cohen
Jimmy Cliff
Bob Mould
Rhett Miller
Wanda Jackson
Dwight Yoakam
Bryan Ferry Orchestra (does that one count?)


The list of artists I enjoy who still (or have) put out great music past age 40 is so long I won't even try listing it. 

Wanda Jackson has another album out this year? I will have to check it out. 
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: chaz on December 07, 2012, 06:37:19 pm
Exactly. And this has been a banner year for 40+ artists. Off of the top of my head, I can think of at least eight who will make my top 20 of the year list...


Neil Young
Leonard Cohen
Jimmy Cliff
Bob Mould
Rhett Miller
Wanda Jackson
Dwight Yoakam
Bryan Ferry Orchestra (does that one count?)


The list of artists I enjoy who still (or have) put out great music past age 40 is so long I won't even try listing it. 

We finally agree on something.  It's a non denominational holiday miracle.  ;D
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: challenged on December 07, 2012, 07:15:55 pm
Pretty fertile year for me.  5 shows in April alone was a lot for this old man.

Best of the Best

The Hold Steady @Ottobar
Bob Mould: Copper Blue, etc. @930
Glen Hansard @930
Ted Leo "Tyranny 10" show @BlackCat
Allo Darlin'/Wave Pictures @BlackCat Backstage

Also Great

Ted Leo solo @St. Stephen's
Don Dixon/Marti Jones @Strathmore Mansion
Fountains of Wayne @930
*Ryan Adams @Strathmore (forgot about this one entirely, thanks Bagley)

Honorable Mentions

Clutch @Paramount NY
Springsteen @Nat's Park
Springsteen @Verizon
Wilco @WolfTrap
Black Keys @Merriweather
Ben Gibbard @6th&I
Of Monster's & Men @Fillmore

Less than favorite

DeathCab @Strathmore #fellasleep
VirginiFest generally

Looking forward to DBT/Deer Tick (have never seen either band)

Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: andyrichter on December 09, 2012, 01:43:19 am
just got back from yeah yeah yeahs @ union pool in NYC.  amazing.  instantly leap frogs to best show of the year.   8)
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: lagas on December 09, 2012, 12:10:57 pm
weird year for me

Roger @ Verizon
Dead Can Dance @ Wolf Trap
Justice @ 930
Radiohead @ Verizon
BMSR @ Ust
Patti Smith @ Rams Head Live
Dr. Dog @ 930 was a nice surprise

That's it.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: stevewizzle on December 10, 2012, 02:16:58 pm
that japandroids show was up there for me.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: azaghal1981 on December 10, 2012, 02:47:13 pm
That was indeed a blast.

Made me realize how out of shape I am, though.
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: killsaly on January 02, 2013, 12:48:53 pm
In Chronological order:
Feb 23 - White Life, Dope Body, DDm (Ottobar)
Mar 8 - Secret Mountains, Arboretum, Sri Aurobindo (Ottobar)
Mar 12 - Roomrunner, Priests (Black Cat Backstage)
Mar 28 - Alcest, Deafheaven (Golden West)
May 9 - Balam Acab, Active Child (Black Cat)
May 21 - Polyphonic Spree (Sixth and I)
July 7 - Farm Fest
Jul 19 - mc chris, Powerglove, Richie Branson (Ottobar)
Jul 26 - A Place to Bury Strangers, Hunters (Rock and Roll Hotel)
Aug 30 to Sep 2 - ScapeScape (the best fest I have probably ever attended.  Highlights included Wye Oak, Believers, Roomrunner, Dope Body, Rapdragons, Raindeer, and about 75 other Baltimore area bands)
Sep 19 - Purity Ring, Evian Christ, Headaches (Rock and Roll Hotel)
Oct 12 - Swans (Black Cat)
Title: Re: 2012 best shows
Post by: Vas Deferens on January 02, 2013, 05:11:18 pm
updated ...down to 25


Nicolas Jaar @ FYF, Los Angeles
Bjork @ Roseland Ballroom
Antony & the Johnsons @ Radio City
PULP @ Radio City
Afghan Whigs @ 930
Omar Souleyman @930 & Mezzanine SF
Chromatics @ RNR/FYF
Tim Hecker @ Public Assembly
Bill Orcutt/Chris Corsano @ Wind Up Space
Dirty Three @ Sixth and I
ASH @ DC9
Jon Spencer Blues Explosion @ U Street Music
Papa M @ Golden West Cafe
Ssion @ Ottobar
Trust @ 930
Fiona Apple @ Sixth and I
Shabazz Palaces @ Sonar
Cass Mccombs @ Ottobar
Refused @ Fillmore
Integrity @ Sonar
Jack White @ Merriweather
Mount Eerie @ U Street Music
Swans @ Black Cat
Leonard Cohen @ Wang Theater
Lee Fields & the Expressions @ 930 Club