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=> GENERAL DISCUSSION => Topic started by: saintangelsin on April 04, 2007, 01:29:00 am
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I know he's coming to the 9:30 club next month with the Imposters. I just saw how much tickets are going to be (75 bucks) and I'm trying to decide if it would be worth it or not. I've always wanted to see him live, but my concern is, does he play his older stuff too? Don't get me wrong, his recent stuff is good, but I don't want to pay a lot of money for a concert that is mostly material from his work with Burt Bacharach and Allen Toussaint.
I've been a fan of his since I was in the 5th grade. (i'm now 21 btw) I mean hell, even my glasses are simular to his. He's a songwriting hero to me. I really want to go because I've never seen him live before and it's not everyday he's playing one of my favorite music venues.
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Originally posted by saintangelsin:
I know he's coming to the 9:30 club next month with the Imposters. and I'm trying to decide if it would be worth it or not.
I've been a fan of his since I was in the 5th grade. (i'm now 21 btw) I mean hell, even my glasses are simular to his. He's a songwriting hero to me. I really want to go because I've never seen him live before and it's not everyday he's playing one of my favorite music venues.
I think you answered your own question.
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I've seen Elvis many times and (from my experience) when he's not directly promoting a new album you have a better chance of hearing old stuff. This is just a brief, two/three week tour that I think he's doing to partially promote the new reissues.
So, I think he will do a few more "older" songs than he usually does. He'll still probably do several from "The Delivery Man" and "The River in Reverse." He'll do a couple well-chosen covers. And he'll do the old war horses: "Alison", "Pump It Up", "Watching the Detectives", probably "Radio Radio" and/or "Clubland." After that, who knows?
Brian
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What's keeping you from seeing him prior to this show if you've been a fan since 5th grade?! Just wondering...
Originally posted by saintangelsin:
I've been a fan of his since I was in the 5th grade. (i'm now 21 btw) I mean hell, even my glasses are simular to his. He's a songwriting hero to me. I really want to go because I've never seen him live before and it's not everyday he's playing one of my favorite music venues.
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Or just get his live DVD and save the other $60
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Originally posted by Joe Marshmallow III:
What's keeping you from seeing him prior to this show if you've been a fan since 5th grade?! Just wondering...
Originally posted by saintangelsin:
I've been a fan of his since I was in the 5th grade. (i'm now 21 btw) I mean hell, even my glasses are simular to his. He's a songwriting hero to me. I really want to go because I've never seen him live before and it's not everyday he's playing one of my favorite music venues.
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Well, growing up, I didn't know that he still toured. When I was 10, I just listened to whatever music my older friends would throw my way. My dad told me about Elvis Costello actually. I think what also kept me from seeing him was money and distance. I grew up in Western Maryland. 3 hour drive is a lot. And lots of times when I was younger, I didn't know much as to who was touring and such.
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Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
I've seen Elvis many times and (from my experience) when he's not directly promoting a new album you have a better chance of hearing old stuff. This is just a brief, two/three week tour that I think he's doing to partially promote the new reissues.
So, I think he will do a few more "older" songs than he usually does. He'll still probably do several from "The Delivery Man" and "The River in Reverse." He'll do a couple well-chosen covers. And he'll do the old war horses: "Alison", "Pump It Up", "Watching the Detectives", probably "Radio Radio" and/or "Clubland." After that, who knows?
Brian
That's pretty great actually! sounds well worth it honestly. Thank you for the pointer.
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In case nobody noticed, these went on sale today. dcist already announced it, so you should probably jump on it, if you're interested.
Visa was the only accepted method of payment, but it doesn't look like it needs to be a Visa Signature card.
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How fast do you all think this will sell out?
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why wait? if you're going, just buy it...
seems to be that tickets.com is very busy today, i'm getting virtual waiting rooms everywhere - the elvis costello page, on the main 930 tickets page, etc. either servers are down, or some show is very over-subscribed at the moment. i can't even get in to the elvis page, been waiting for several minutes now.
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Well, I'm going to the Albert Hammond, Jr. show tonight, and was hoping I could just buy at the box office...
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$75 for tickets? he plays almost every year at wolf trap for like $25
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I checked to see if tix were still available and got the following message:
"We're sorry. Our site is down for scheduled maintenance. Thank you for your patience."
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Looks like the tickets.com purchase system has crashed. All that coems up is the white "down for maint" screen.
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Back on line now.
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Originally posted by amnesiac:
Well, I'm going to the Albert Hammond, Jr. show tonight, and was hoping I could just buy at the box office...
well, with any luck the system will stay down until your show tonight, thus ensuring that the show doesn't sell out :)
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I agree that he usually does a show at Wolf Trap every year but pavillion tix are usually tough to come by and those are never $25.
$75 is a bit steep. But it'll be worth it.
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The Baltimore show is on 5/12 (weekend) and is $60 :) I think I'll make it to that show instead.
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What would Elvis Costello say about all of the violence around the club?
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Accidents will happen?
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What's So Funny About Peace Love & Understanding?
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The better question is: What would Jesus Do?
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Go to the Birchmere.
Originally posted by Joe Marshmallow III:
The better question is: What would Jesus Do?
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thatguy's army?
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Watch Your Step
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What a Good Year for the Violence. :p
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Will you serve me coleslaw? ;)
Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
Go to the Birchmere.
Originally posted by Joe Marshmallow III:
The better question is: What would Jesus Do?
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I don't get payed until like midnight tonight. That's when my direct deposite usually happens. I really hope they don't sell out until like Saturday. I'll be up late tonight hoping to buy tickets. Now I'm all nervous haha. I had a sneaky feeling that I'd be buying my Morrissey ticket and Elvis Costello ticket within the same week basically.
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
What's So Funny About Peace Love & Understanding?
When I saw Costello at DAR he did that one, and this Funky-Winkerbean-lookin' kid was front-and-center in the audience vigorously giving Costello the peace sign through the whole song. I mean very emphatically with both hands, like Nixon. Only problem was the kid was doing it wrong and had his palms facing himself, so that what he was giving Costello was actually the Brit version of flipping the bird. My friend thought he was flipping intentionally, but I asked him after the set and he said no I thought it was the peace sign!
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Got my ticket at the box office last night. Only $1 service charge! :D
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Ram's Head show is on presale now! $60 + fees.
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Originally posted by Joe Marshmallow III:
Ram's Head show is on presale now! $60 + fees.
Where is that? I checked the Ram's Head site, Ticketmaster and the Costello ticket registry all to no avail. Presale over already?
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http://tix.concertmaps.com/elviscostello/ (http://tix.concertmaps.com/elviscostello/)
will-call only. There are still presale tix available.
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Originally posted by Joe Marshmallow III:
The Baltimore show is on 5/12 (weekend) and is $60 :) I think I'll make it to that show instead.
5/18 (at 9:30) is a Friday. ;)
I'm tempted to go to B'more, but the commute makes up any monetary difference.
How about a rollcall for those sitting this one out? I just can't afford either show.
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OOps, my bad :)
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Is it sold out? I was waiting to find out if I could possible buy my ticket tomorrow when I go to lily allen. I checked www.tickets.com (http://www.tickets.com) to see about if tickets were still there, and right now I can't access anything.
ps- What should I do? there's still a ramshead tickets but I'm in college park without a car, so I have no clue about getting to the show. I was hoping for the 930 club gig because I can take the metro. Somebody please help me!
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the 930 show is sold out.
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I'm happy to say that I got a ticket for the Ramshead show! It should be a pretty awesome time. The cool thing is that my mom might also go with me to the show.
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According to the Rams Head newsletter, they just released tickets to the Baltimore show.
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Dweezil & company is also coming to the Ram Shead in July, FYI.
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According to the front page, they just released a few tickets for the 9:30 show.
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any thoughts on the rams head show?
what have setlists been like on this tour?
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Originally posted by brennser:
any thoughts on the rams head show?
what have setlists been like on this tour?
The Ram's Head show was fantastic. He sounded great and seemed to be having a good time. No set lists have shown up yet, unfortunately. But it was a pretty similar show to the others on the tour so far. Lots of early stuff. He practically played all of "This Year's Model" in Baltimore. Here is the Detroit show from the last Friday:
http://www.elviscostello.info/wiki/index.php/Concert_2007-05-11 (http://www.elviscostello.info/wiki/index.php/Concert_2007-05-11)
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Originally posted by themaestro:
Here is the Detroit show from the last Friday:
http://www.elviscostello.info/wiki/index.php/Concert_2007-05-11 (http://www.elviscostello.info/wiki/index.php/Concert_2007-05-11)
That's a pretty sweet set.
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Plus he did "Green Shirt."
Too many John Lennon/Beatles covers for my taste but what are you going to do?
I'd say 70% of his set was songs recorded 1982 or earlier.
Brian
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Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
I'd say 70% of his set was songs recorded 1982 or earlier.
Brian
If not more. Anybody out there get the whole setlist? I know I saw somebody up front writing it down in a notebook...
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That Detroit set is excellent. Shabby Doll, Chelsea, High Fidelity, Green Shirt...love all the stuff he's doing from Imperial Bedroom.
This will be the first E.C. show in DC that I've missed in 20 years. Damn.
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It looks like I'll have 2 spare tickets I'll need to sell for Friday nights show - any interested boardies drop me a PM.
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Originally posted by themaestro:
Originally posted by Brian_Walalce:
I'd say 70% of his set was songs recorded 1982 or earlier.
Brian
If not more. Anybody out there get the whole setlist? I know I saw somebody up front writing it down in a notebook... [/b]
What I was trying to say was that the Baltimore set list was REALLY old. I've been looking at the other set lists on the tour. He didn't do "I Hope You're Happy Now," "Human Hands," "Uncomplicated," "Kid About It," "Riot Act," "Sulky Girl," "Brilliant Mistake", etc. in Baltimore. Aside from three newer songs and the Beatles covers he didn't do much that was more recent than "Trust!"
Maybe it's a Maryland thing. I remember him playing with the Attractions around 1995 in Prince George's county and he literally played most of "This Year's Model" at that show.
Brian
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does he ever play "I want you" these days (thinking probably not as it is dedicated to an ex-wife)?
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Originally posted by brennser:
does he ever play "I want you" these days (thinking probably not as it is dedicated to an ex-wife)?
No. A couple of songs off "Blood & Chocolate" have been warhorses of his for the past ten years. "Uncomplicated," "Honey, Are you Straight or are you Blind?," "I Hope You're Happy Now" and for the show-stopper, "I Want You." And while it's hard to fault ANY of the songs on "Blood & Chocolate" (it's such a classic, I think it may be one of Thom Yorke's favorite records, for what that's worth) I always wanted to hear "Tokyo Storm Warning" or "Home is Anywhere You Hang Your Head" a little more.
He did do "I Want You" with Fiona Apple last year in Atlantic City for a VH-1 Classic special. I was there. It was pretty cool. EC and Billy Joe Armstrong doing "Basket Case" together. Ben Gibbard doing "Kinder Murder."
Brian
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Like a lot of folks, I went through a phase early on where I was obsessed with his work through Get Happy! (my favorite of his by far). But I found his stuff after that dull, with the occasional bright spot (Everyday I Write the Book). Listened to Spike a lot when it came out (along w/ a decent Joe Jackson release whose name I forget and Lou Reed's New York, which all came out around the same time).
Haven't listened to EC since, and I've found him to be insufferable and tedius of late (maybe that's my problem).
That said, I have really high expectations for tonight's show and am very much looking forward to it.
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I thought the show was great. Two-plus hours; good mix of hits with deeper cuts; three encores; guest appearance by Allen Toussaint....
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i concur... the true sign of a great concert is when the artist says "Good Evening" an hour in to the show with a dozen plus classics having already been played. the band was clearily enjoying playing and not just by the note recreations of the past.
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I had a great time. Unfortunately my friend got to feeling very poorly and we had to leave during the second encore. :( Is it just me or was the crowd last night one of the rudest ever at the club? I was in my usual spot (upstairs, barstool) and I swear 90% of the people there and in the VIP area did nothing but hold converstions all night long, yelling over the music all the while. I have kind of noticed that the more yuppie/hoity toidy a crowd is the lower their 'concert ethics' are in general. Albeit it isnt just a 930 thing. Its that way damn near everywhere.
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great, great show. elvis was in fine form from the start, nice setlist, rhythm section was locked in . . . and steve nieve was on fire. i'd have to describe his playing as 'thrilling.'
happy to hear about 4 songs (I think) from Get Happy!, alison acoustic was solid, and warhouses like watching the detectives, peace love and understanding etc. sounded great. . . the band was rocking.
the crowd was pretty middle-aged. it was obvious most people around me would have preferred to be at warner or somewhere where they didn't have to jockey for position (at first).
on the lower left, folks were pretty courteous and if they were initially uncomfortable they quickly became happy to be there seeing that show in that environment.
towards the end of the show i found myself next to a younger couple who were making out like it was 3 am at Chief Ike's - which was oddly out of place yet oddly understandable considering the good vibe. they had a friend who landed a few solid right crosses and hooks trying to get me to dance (i'm from dc! i have a right to stand still and nod meaningfully!) - which I found funny but i felt bad because i annoyed everyone around me when a got staggered into folks.
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Elvis, Definitely Alive
Costello Plumbs the Depths of His Songbook For a High-Energy Show at the 9:30 Club
Monday, May 21, 2007; Page C05
Elvis Costello has more musical personalities than Tupac has posthumous albums, but the one who turned up at the 9:30 club Friday is the most consistently satisfying: Call him the Shut Up and Sing Elvis. He never took off his black suit jacket or his black sunglasses, or loosened his black tie. He simply strode onstage and launched into "Welcome to the Working Week," smash-cutting 13 more songs together before he even said "good evening."
Elvis seems like a pretty contented guy these days, but it's good to see he can reconnect so easily with the pencil-necked, amphetamine-addled Angry Young Man of 1978, who stared out from the posters and T-shirts for sale at the back of the club.
All but a half-dozen of the set's 33 (!) songs were more than 25 years old. But if you're going to look backward, there are worse ways to do it: Although focused on the first third of his career (from which the albums have just been reissued for the umpteenth time), the show's breathless first half boasted so many rarities ("Lovers' Walk," "Riot Act," "Shabby Doll") that it never felt predictable. Even night's best cover, "Hey Bulldog," was about as obscure as a Beatles song can be.
Costello's willingness to fling open the back pages of his extraordinary songbook is one of the qualities that make him such a superb live performer. Of course, his daring would be in vain if the tunes didn't kill, but aided by the Imposters, Costello drove home the curios and the kinda-hits with such unrelenting kinetic force that you barely had time to remember the chorus of one tune before he counted off the next. A solo take of the seminal unrequited-love "Alison," its melody altered just enough to foil the singer-alongers, followed by the plaintive gem "Sleep of the Just," provided the only breather.
Late in the evening, New Orleans pianist and songwriter Allen Toussaint showed up to tickle the keys on "The River in Reverse" and "Monkey to Man," before singing his own "Yes We Can Can."
Tickets could be bought only with the credit card that sponsored the show. Costello, who used to refuse endorsement deals, introduced only one song all night -- the new "American Gangster Time" -- saying it was "about a mercenary [expletive]." When you rock this hard, you can get away with pretty much anything.
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elvis turning into dylan?
REVIEW: Elvis Costello, Bristol Beacon: Fans walk out of sell-out gig as iconic singer strips down classic hits (https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/review-elvis-costello-bristol-beacon-9561988)
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He even poached Dylan’s guitar gunslinger
I don’t know how people can get so upset about people aging or not playing the tired hits
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play your hits the way they became famous for gods sake. Or at least don't charge $100 to listen to your shitty new interpretations of your song. Being compared to the AARP Dylan at this stage of his career is not a positive.
elvis turning into dylan?
REVIEW: Elvis Costello, Bristol Beacon: Fans walk out of sell-out gig as iconic singer strips down classic hits (https://www.bristolpost.co.uk/news/bristol-news/review-elvis-costello-bristol-beacon-9561988)
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That’s ridiculous.
Play whatever you want however you want.
When I first saw Bob Dylan in 1996 he was 53 and he played amazing versions of his hits, Dead covers, and whatever the fuck he felt like and they were truly great shows.
If people want to hear the original versions stream it or whatever
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I saw Dylan in Bowie Baysox stadium a while back. I couldnt tell he was playing his hits until I read the setlist the next day. That's not what people pay for. How would you like to see Ween read their song lyrics like a beat poet at one of their shows (if they can ever get back on stage). I know most people would probably prefer that, but Ween fans would probably be a bit puzzled and not to happy.
Or how'd you like to see Evan Dando play one of his sets in a drugged out incomprehensible haze. Well maybe that's how he wanted to play his songs, yet no one is allowed to complain?
That’s ridiculous.
Play whatever you want however you want.
When I first saw Bob Dylan in 1996 he was 53 and he played amazing versions of his hits, Dead covers, and whatever the fuck he felt like and they were truly great shows.
If people want to hear the original versions stream it or whatever
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Bob Dylan has not been worth seeing love in 5-6 decades and everyone who has is a sucker. Myself included. But some people have heard the “fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me” adage and some people have Stockholm Syndrome and convince themselves it was actually great because they have issues.
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OMG so so wrong…..
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I thought the quote was "fool me once, shame on you, fool me, can't get fooled again"
https://youtu.be/rQ6N-sb7SVQ?si=_IGQ-aQboomO87c0
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I mean I have now seen Bob about 25 times just about anywhere from the 930 to Chicago, Atlanta, etc. I have stopped trains to see him (your Alma mater sidehatch). This stereotype and common misconception that he is unintelligible and his shows suck is just not borne out by the facts. Did he have a rough patch in the early 90s? Sure. Is his voice limited? Sure, and let’s face it he was never Pavarotti but the art of singing is about transmitting emotion. As Miles Davis famously said he preferred Billie Holiday towards the end of her career when vocally she was but a shadow of herself because she was a better more experienced singer and could transmit more feeling with her croak than she had as a young woman with her youthful voice.
If you don’t understand this you don’t understand singing.
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And if what you are looking for are faithful renditions you haven’t understood anything. Bob Dylan is not a pop singer or a Frankie Valli lip synching. For Bob Dylan a song is a living breathing thing and the recorded version is no more important than any of the subsequent versions. A great song can be adapted. In some ways when Bob performs a song he is like a jazz musician. Think Miles live. The versions he plays constantly evolve. That’s creativity.
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That may be true but his reimagined, reworked versions suck for the most part. They are not what 99.99% of his fans are paying good money to see. If he is touring on new versions of his songs then he should advertise his tours as such. For ex "Dylan Plays His Hits in the Voice of Clarence Frogman Henry...Will You Recognize the Songs?...Probably Not Tour." Or for Elvis Costello's last show I saw "Elvis Plays His Deep Deep Deep Deep Tracks You Probably Skip With Maybe a Song or Two You Will Recognize and Enjoy Tour". At least let people Know up front.
And if what you are looking for are faithful renditions you haven’t understood anything. Bob Dylan is not a pop singer or a Frankie Valli lip synching. For Bob Dylan a song is a living breathing thing and the recorded version is no more important than any of the subsequent versions. A great song can be adapted. In some ways when Bob performs a song he is like a jazz musician. Think Miles live. The versions he plays constantly evolve. That’s creativity.
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99.99% of people that go see Bob?
GTFO
That’s just plain untrue…
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Sorry I may have exaggerated...99.98%
99.99% of people that go see Bob?
GTFO
That’s just plain untrue…