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distance

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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #45 on: October 12, 2004, 04:47:00 pm »
i liked sp, but zwan was crap.
 i have no interest in giving any money to anything he'll be doing on the future.  i'm amazed he's significant enough still to make money off these poetry readings.  i guess there are fans that are obsessed enough to go.

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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #46 on: October 12, 2004, 04:55:00 pm »
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Originally posted by distance:
  i liked sp, but zwan was crap.
 i have no interest in giving any money to anything he'll be doing on the future.  i'm amazed he's significant enough still to make money off these poetry readings.  i guess there are fans that are obsessed enough to go.
The early Zwan stuff (2001) was good, imo. He said somewhere on his blog that he found "Mary/Jesus/whatever" in 2002 and if you'll notice, his stuff really went downhill from there. Not that I'm anti-religion, I go to church every Sunday, I just think the goofy optimism he brought away from that directly affected the lyrical nature of his work.

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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #47 on: October 13, 2004, 08:48:00 am »
this is to shut some of you "no popular music is good" idiots up.
 
 Porcelina of the Vast Oceans
 
 as far as you take me, that's where i believe
 the realm of soft delusions, floating on the leaves
 on a distant shoreline, she waves her arms to me
 as all the thought police, are closing in for sleep
 the dilly dally, of my bright lit stay
 the steam of my misfortunes
 has given me the power to be afraid
 and in my mind i'm everyone
 and in my mind
 without a care in this whole world
 without a care in this life
 it's what you take that makes it right
 porcelina of the oceans blue
 in the slipstream, of thoughtless thoughts
 the light of all that's good, the light of all that's true
 to the fringes gladly, i walk unadorned
 with gods and their creations
 with filth and disease
 porcelina, she waits for me there
 with seashell hissing lullabyes
 and whispers fathomed deep inside my own
 hidden thoughts and alibis
 my secret thoughts come alive
 without a care in this whole world
 without a care in this life
 it's what you take that makes it right
 and in my mind i'm everyone
 in my mind i'm everyone of you
 you make it right
 it's all allright
 you make it right
 porcelina of the oceans blue

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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #48 on: October 13, 2004, 06:42:00 pm »
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Originally posted by elj:
  The early Zwan stuff (2001) was good, imo. He said somewhere on his blog that he found "Mary/Jesus/whatever" in 2002 and if you'll notice, his stuff really went downhill from there. Not that I'm anti-religion, I go to church every Sunday, I just think the goofy optimism he brought away from that directly affected the lyrical nature of his work.
i'll agree that the earlier stuff was better, yes, but what was chosen to be released was crap.  and what was actually good was only a small fraction of the material that zwan did.
 i was actually considering going out to california for the first 4 zwan shows.  i'm really glad i didn't.  a friend of mine was out there at the time and i mentioned the show to him and he went out of his way to stay an extra two days in town to go to the first one and thought it was a total waste of time as well.
 i'm glad to see that band is dead... just wake me up when there's an SP reunion tour.
 it's bound to happen at some point..

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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #49 on: October 18, 2004, 05:37:00 pm »
So I'm kind of curious...did anyone go to this??

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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #50 on: October 18, 2004, 10:51:00 pm »
apparently not... i wish i had, but i was at work.  :(   if I had gone, I would let you know what it was.  i'm still clueless... no one even mentioned it on netphoria.  my friend got me a book signed though for b&m atleast.  i'm not really impressed with the book, but its cool to have.

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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #51 on: October 18, 2004, 11:12:00 pm »
I went.  My little sister really wanted to go, and as a huge pumpkins fan myself I was curious to see how Billy did trying his hand at poetry.  He and Yungchen Llahmo (tibetan singing) came out at the same time, and performed together.  Sometimes it was Yungchen solo, sometimes billy played acoustic guitar backup for her.  Billy would read poems as they are, or sometimes with guitar and Yungchen singing.  Made for a more interesting experience than just him reading out of his book.  In addition, three audience members were allowed to come on stage and read some of his poetry.  Also, a girl from the audience went onstage and played a song of her own, quite randomly...simply because she asked billy if she could, and he said sure.  Nothing played or mentioned about either Zwan or Pumpkins, and I think it was all the better for that.  Made for an enjoyable early evening all in all.
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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #52 on: October 19, 2004, 08:19:00 am »
So did Billy perform any songs at all?

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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #53 on: October 19, 2004, 08:25:00 am »
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  Isn't there something un-rock and roll about a rock singer buying a 7 million dollar house?
Actually, that's very rock and roll. Presley, the Beatles, the Stones, Zeppelin to name just a few.
 
 You seem to have a thing for Billy C.  Like his shiny bald head, do you?

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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #54 on: October 19, 2004, 10:38:00 am »
Yes, Billy performed about 4 or 5 songs just by himself while playing acoustic guitar.  Didn't recognize any of them.  They might be from his upcoming solo album.
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Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #55 on: October 19, 2004, 10:41:00 am »
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Originally posted by Sailor Ripley:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Isn't there something un-rock and roll about a rock singer buying a 7 million dollar house?
Actually, that's very rock and roll. Presley, the Beatles, the Stones, Zeppelin to name just a few.
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Yeah, dear Rhett seems a little confused since about what's par for the course for "rock" acts and what's par for the course for "alt country" acts. Oh well.
 
 Oh, and the songs he played were from an upcoming "Chicago acoustic" DVD. I don't think any of those that he played are from his "rock" album.

Re: Bankrolling Billy's new house
« Reply #56 on: October 21, 2004, 11:55:00 am »
7 million dollar houses are par for the course for a very, very small percentage of musicians of any genre.
 
 
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Originally posted by elj:
   
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Originally posted by Sailor Ripley:
   
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Isn't there something un-rock and roll about a rock singer buying a 7 million dollar house?
Actually, that's very rock and roll. Presley, the Beatles, the Stones, Zeppelin to name just a few.
 [/b]
Yeah, dear Rhett seems a little confused since about what's par for the course for "rock" acts and what's par for the course for "alt country" acts. Oh well.
 
 Oh, and the songs he played were from an upcoming "Chicago acoustic" DVD. I don't think any of those that he played are from his "rock" album. [/b]