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ggw

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #30 on: May 24, 2007, 02:03:00 pm »
My point is not that the NY Times speaks for everyone; it's that I think that Okrent makes some very valid points on why journalism naturally leans toward liberal (based in urban centers; traditionally liberal profession). Personally, I don't have any problem with that, and I certainly don't consider myself "victimized" by it in any way.
 
 As far as circulation statistics, those are strawmen.  People don't read something looking to change their mind; they migrate toward that which reinforces the views they already hold.
 
 
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  As for the ??liberal media? argument ?? if you don??t believe that (speaking in the broadest sense) ??the media? is ??liberal,? than you??re blind.
if you can't see that the media is totally slanted to the right, you must not be paying attention.  there, now we're even.  and the truth is somewhere in between.
 
 taking the NYT as an example of all US media?  why don't we look at USA Today* instead and use that to label the entire industry?  had a look at  most popular radio talk shows recently?
 
 it's a right-wing conspiracy, i'm telling you - no, not the media, but the right-wingers' claims of victimhood.  repeat "liberal media" often enough and people will start believing it.
 
 * footnote: NYT's weekday daily circulation: 1,086,798.  USA Today's: 2,278,022. [/b]

vansmack

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #31 on: May 24, 2007, 02:06:00 pm »
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  no i wasnt sweetcell.  i just find it funny the moderator is proposing having a council due to the fact he disagrees with someone.
Why don't you come back when you're not as tired?
 
 This isn't about him disagreeing at all.  It's about a patterned history since Dupek lost his job that is becoming problematic (to put it lightly) for the hosts and members of this board.
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manimtired

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #32 on: May 24, 2007, 02:15:00 pm »
I guess not being a liberal is seen as being problematic on this board.

godsshoeshine

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #33 on: May 24, 2007, 02:17:00 pm »
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 As far as circulation statistics, those are strawmen.  
someone using a strawman argument to refute one of the most overused strawman arguments?    :eek:
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Frank Gallagher

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #34 on: May 24, 2007, 02:20:00 pm »

vansmack

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #35 on: May 24, 2007, 02:33:00 pm »
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  I guess not being a liberal is seen as being problematic on this board.
No, problematic would be running a bulletin board to attract business to your club, but constanlty having to police said message board due to inappropriate posts full of explicit and profoundly racist material.
 
 Again, come back when you're less tired.  This is not a political issue, it's a business issue.
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manimtired

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #36 on: May 24, 2007, 02:35:00 pm »
i havent seen the racist material. please provide a link and maybe ill see what youre crying about..yawn.

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #37 on: May 24, 2007, 02:42:00 pm »
ggw is one of the longest-tenured posters on the board - based on his comments over the years I don't think its a stretch to say he's probably not a liberal.....and I can't think of anyone who has a 'problem' with him
 
 not being a liberal isn't the problem, being a pain in the ass is.....
 
 
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  I guess not being a liberal is seen as being problematic on this board.

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #38 on: May 24, 2007, 02:42:00 pm »
just put it this way warnings have been issued and i don't think twice about deleting stuff anymore...
 
 the inconvenient truth game is no longer funny, if you don't like the fact that there are injustices, bias, etc in the world then do something about it!  Write your congressmen, media, lather rinse repeat.   continually airing them on this board is going to accomplish anything....
 
 the constant blame game and i'm not a racist but the rest of the board is tired, either try to fit in or  find some other place to pollute.
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vansmack

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #39 on: May 24, 2007, 02:49:00 pm »
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  i havent seen the racist material. please provide a link
I didn't post in this thread to prove any case against Dupek, I posted to defend your attack on Kosmo, and I will keep it as such.  Much like my stance on Dupek, I won't be baited into garbage.
 
 At this point I'm regretting asking where Dupek had been when he disappeared for a while, because I used to be fan.  Now I've just grown tired of his constant off-topic baiting into discussions of whatever topic he is using to cure his boredom sans employment.  I know I'm not alone.
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manimtired

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #40 on: May 24, 2007, 02:50:00 pm »
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Originally posted by manimtired:
  i havent seen the racist material. please provide a link
I didn't post in this thread to prove any case against Dupek, I posted to defend your attack on Kosmo, and I will keep it as such.  Much like my stance on Dupek, I won't be baited into garbage.
 
 At this point I'm regretting asking where Dupek had been when he disappeared for a while, because I used to be fan.  Now I've just grown tired of his constant off-topic baiting into discussions of whatever topic he is using to cure his boredom sans employment.  I know I'm not alone. [/b]
here, here...it'll be ok.

vansmack

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #41 on: May 24, 2007, 02:53:00 pm »
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  ggw is one of the longest-tenured posters on the board - based on his comments over the years I don't think its a stretch to say he's probably not a liberal.....and I can't think of anyone who has a 'problem' with him
 
 not being a liberal isn't the problem, being a pain in the ass is.....
 
Venerable is another example of a person who's not a liberal whose posts I seldom ignore.  He's my favorite libertarian-intellectual.
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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #42 on: May 24, 2007, 03:08:00 pm »
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   I've just grown tired of his constant off-topic baiting into discussions of whatever topic he is using to cure his boredom sans employment.  I know I'm not alone.
I agree. It is one of the main reasons I don't spend as much time here as I used to. It's become an ugly poisonous place @ times.
 
 It's not even about the content or the message. It is the appropriateness of the outlet. Analogy: I don't go hiking to hear a loud rock concert (tho I do love both.)
 
 For many - music is an escape from this kind of thought/content...if only for a short time period.
 
 I say kill the garbage here. There are many, many, many other outlets available.

bearman🐻

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Re: Not Newsworthy
« Reply #43 on: May 24, 2007, 03:15:00 pm »
I agree...kill it!
 
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