now i can bitch

[walkonby]

good lord and gravy biscuits; i just read an article about this billy ray cyrus daughter and the phenom. she is creating.  ticketscalpers set new records for resell prices of her tickets (one went for $2500.00!).  people are "finally taking notice and getting fed up with the way the ticket industry is ripping off the consumer."  priceless.  go moms.

[TheREALHunter]

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I think this calls for a Congressional investigation, as they are setting a bad example for the youth of America.

They don't give a fuck.  Trust that.  The mecca of concerts ($$$$ wise, anyway) NYC has (or is about to) actually make scalping LEGAL.  Lemme put y'all up on game right quick:
 
 Dirty Little Secret #1: The Van Halen Tour
 
 The first 15 rows (depending on the venue up to twenty-something) on the floor of this tour aren't really effectively even available to the general public price wise.   Base price for floors shows on Ticket Master/Live Nation as around $149, give or take $20 depending on the city.  (NYC, Chi, LA, Vegas, etc. are always more than other cities.)  Now if those seats aren't available, one asks where the fuck did they go???  Good question, fam.  Here's your answer . . .
 
 Instead of a laissez faire    :roll:    type deal, here's what pops off.  For the robust price of anywhere from $495 - $795 depending on your city(that's per ticket BTW), one can purchase what is referred to as the 4 star Van Halen package.  Which includes 1 seat SOMEWHERE (they don't tell you until the day of the show) in the 1st 20 rows.  Oh, and they're nice enough to give you a Van Halen key chain/T-shirt, Van Halen test tube or some shit of that nature.  But that package sounds a lil' fishy, right?  Glad you asked.  That's why there's a 5 star package.  For the conservative pricing of $750 - $1000.  Per ticket of course.  This includes:
 
 
 A reserved seat inside the ramp! (Somewhere, as they don't tell you until the day of the show)Van Halen 5 Star souvenir laminate!
 Backstage tour!
 Pre-show party!
 Exclusive Van Halen gift bag!
 Crowd-free merchandise shopping! (A wait-free line so you can spend MORE money)
 Parking (where available)
 
 You will be required to sign a waiver and release of liability.
 
 And absolutely NO GUARANTEE of meeting the band.  
 
 So one may ask.  If the 1st 20 rows got blocked off, how about the other 6 letters of alphabet???Glad you asked.  Those go to the wonderful folks at Ticket Master.  The last 6 or so rows (depending on the venue/city maybe less) go to the "auction" which is designed to "give you the comsumer a value on premium seating".  i.e. Read: Scalpers/Brokers are getting their cut & we want some too.  And of course, people are so gassed up by the prospect of a Van Halen reunion w/ Diamond Dave, that seats in the teens to 20 some rows back on the floor are getting sold by Ticket Master for about $390 - upwards of a yard ($1K) a pop.  Then throw in the fact that Citibank is a sponsor on the tour, & if you use one of their cards, then you get 1st crack at the lower bowl seats right by the stage.  2 sections each side of the stage to be exact.  Meaning Joe & Jill fan's best seats in the lower bowl on the primary market start realistically in damn near the middle of the arena. Nostalgia's lucrative than a bitch, huh???  
 
 Oh, and no.  Those prices and/or tickets do not include anal lube and/or Vaseline.
 
 YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
 
     <img src="http://intheouter.net/wp-content/uploads/2006/05/img_fewgoodmen.jpg" alt=" - " /> [/b]

All that info is right on their website, if you wanna play up front you gotta pay.  Or just pay $50 and enjoy the show from the upper level which is fine by me.

[eros]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I blame it all on this guy:
 
    <img src="http://www.netwalk.com/~truegger/ftrh/Mikey1.jpg" alt=" - " />

Leave chokeychicken out of this!

[TheDirector217]

Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
     

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
    Oh, and no.  Those prices and/or tickets do not include anal lube and/or Vaseline.
 
 YOU CAN'T HANDLE THE TRUTH!
 
        :roll:    board.  1st rule of show biz: There's NO such thing as bad publicity.  There's a parent in Potomac or Vienna pulling out the Black Card to ante at at least $300 a pop for little Amber & her homegirls to hit Verizon for a good time as we speak.  It all goes hand in hand.  If they weren't about greasing their pockets, they could easily pull those tickets & issue refunds.  Tom Petty & U2 have recent DOCUMENTED instances of doing so of actually going through eBay/Stubhub (which by the way, as of recently are the same company - see what I said earlier - REactive not PROactive???) & pulling those tickets back & making them available to the public again.  
 
 As far as the Van Halen, I don't think it's dirty at all.  It's just big business.  I dealt with that years ago.  I'm about as good as it gets (ask about me) when it comes to getting killer floor seats at a show.  When Van Halen went on sale for D.C., the best seats I pulled up were right of the stage Sect. 113 & 114 about 10 - 15 rows back.  I tossed that shit back.  I have other avenues I can use to get seats face or less.  The general public does not though, which all ties into the underlying theme of BIG BUSINESS, baby.  American culture is predicated upon tossing nice amounts of cake towards having a good time.  (Myself included.)  Have some friends over to watch a fight/game or your favorite Morrissey DVD?  Not without an HD bigscreen.  Party at the club for your birthday?  Not without a limo or poppin' some triple digit bottles.  Party at a bar/restaurant for drinks & good times?  Not without a triple digit bar tab.  Wanna see your favorite group live after a 20 year hiatus?  Not without paying triple digits.  Nosebleeds or floors, cause after you catch that high from the show & shake off those chicken tenders & 2 Millers you bought you're GONNA want a T-shirt.  Right??  Boom.  Soon as you walk out towards the Red Line/your car, you just tossed a Benjamin towards the gate & the merch gross.  It's all big business.  Some people live in a fantasy world (like these dumb ass Hannah Montana parents who probably didn't blink when they paid $100 to see Bruce or a couple hundred to see The Stones when they dropped their Amber & Chase off at Aunt Mildred's house but now they wanna bitch).  I'm just laying it all out for people, that's all.  The truth hit me a while ago . . . .

[xneverwherex]

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I think this calls for a Congressional investigation, as they are setting a bad example for the youth of America.

They don't give a fuck.  Trust that.  The mecca of concerts ($$$$ wise, anyway) NYC has (or is about to) actually make scalping LEGAL.  [/b]

courtesy of the garden's website. i havent noticed any changes tho and still dont see much scalping. then again im not usually in attendance at the biggest shows here. one thing i have noticed at msg shows, if you are sitting anywhere on steps outside the theater area (even if youre out of the way) security will tell you that you cant sit there.    
 
 Scalping
 Please note that New York law prohibits the resale of tickets within one thousand five hundred feet from Madison Square Garden. In addition, New York law prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Theater at Madison Square Garden for more than 20% above the price printed on the face of the ticket and prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Arena for more than 45% above the price printed on the face of this ticket. Unlawful resale can be punishable by fine and/or imprisonment.

[TheDirector217]

Originally posted by xneverwherex:
   

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
     

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I think this calls for a Congressional investigation, as they are setting a bad example for the youth of America.

They don't give a fuck.  Trust that.  The mecca of concerts ($$$$ wise, anyway) NYC has (or is about to) actually make scalping LEGAL.  [/b]

courtesy of the garden's website. i havent noticed any changes tho and still dont see much scalping. then again im not usually in attendance at the biggest shows here. one thing i have noticed at msg shows, if you are sitting anywhere on steps outside the theater area (even if youre out of the way) security will tell you that you cant sit there.        
 
 Scalping
 Please note that New York law prohibits the resale of tickets within one thousand five hundred feet from Madison Square Garden. In addition, New York law prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Theater at Madison Square Garden for more than 20% above the price printed on the face of the ticket and prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Arena for more than 45% above the price printed on the face of this ticket. Unlawful resale can be punishable by fine and/or imprisonment. [/b]

Case en point:  Bought my little brother (well, me too.  I'm a keep it funky with y'all      ) tickets too see Nas last (Friday before) Christmas @ Nokia Theater.  Had HARD tickets for the first show which were $45 face.  The second show I got approached by scalpers selling ticketfast, I will mind you, for no less than $160.  I politely implored them to kiss my ass & kept it moving . . .
 
 I can tell you for gospel fact that Police & Van Halen seats at MSG floor go for NO less than $600.  And that's a daydream figure.  Online killer rows are going for $1500, so day of at the venue a $1K at a minimum.  They want that Park Avenue money, baby!

[xneverwherex]

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   

Originally posted by xneverwherex:
     

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
     

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I think this calls for a Congressional investigation, as they are setting a bad example for the youth of America.

They don't give a fuck.  Trust that.  The mecca of concerts ($$$$ wise, anyway) NYC has (or is about to) actually make scalping LEGAL.  [/b]

courtesy of the garden's website. i havent noticed any changes tho and still dont see much scalping. then again im not usually in attendance at the biggest shows here. one thing i have noticed at msg shows, if you are sitting anywhere on steps outside the theater area (even if youre out of the way) security will tell you that you cant sit there.        
 
 Scalping
 Please note that New York law prohibits the resale of tickets within one thousand five hundred feet from Madison Square Garden. In addition, New York law prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Theater at Madison Square Garden for more than 20% above the price printed on the face of the ticket and prohibits the sale of tickets to events at the Arena for more than 45% above the price printed on the face of this ticket. Unlawful resale can be punishable by fine and/or imprisonment. [/b]

Case en point:  Bought my little brother (well, me too.  I'm a keep it funky with y'all       ) tickets too see Nas last (Friday before) Christmas @ Nokia Theater.  Had HARD tickets for the first show which were $45 face.  The second show I got approached by scalpers selling ticketfast, I will mind you, for no less than $160.  I politely implored them to kiss my ass & kept it moving . . .
 
 I can tell you for gospel fact that Police & Van Halen seats at MSG floor go for NO less than $600.  And that's a daydream figure.  Online killer rows are going for $1500, so day of at the venue a $1K at a minimum.  They want that Park Avenue money, baby! [/b]

keep in mind with seats at MSG (and i dont know how this works entirely), but my firm has seats to EVERY show there. i dont know if they buy some sort of premium pass, but if my firm has seats for every show, i guarantee plenty of other big firms, plus the i-banks and every other place prob has tickets to every show too. so those seats are not sold. im sure soon enough ill see it listed on our intraweb that someone is selling tix (its face only naturally).
 
 plus the firm has a raffle system and gives away a good chunk of the tickets. i am curious if its the same seat for everything - because we have tix for EVERY event at MSG.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

American culture is pathetic. i'm moving to France.
 
 

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   American culture is predicated upon tossing nice amounts of cake towards having a good time.  (Myself included.)  Have some friends over to watch a fight/game or your favorite Morrissey DVD?  Not without an HD bigscreen.  Party at the club for your birthday?  Not without a limo or poppin' some triple digit bottles.  Party at a bar/restaurant for drinks & good times?  Not without a triple digit bar tab.  Wanna see your favorite group live after a 20 year hiatus?  Not without paying triple digits.  Nosebleeds or floors, cause after you catch that high from the show & shake off those chicken tenders & 2 Millers you bought you're GONNA want a T-shirt.  Right??  Boom.  Soon as you walk out towards the Red Line/your car, you just tossed a Benjamin towards the gate & the merch gross.  It's all big business.  Some people live in a fantasy world (like these dumb ass Hannah Montana parents who probably didn't blink when they paid $100 to see Bruce or a couple hundred to see The Stones when they dropped their Amber & Chase off at Aunt Mildred's house but now they wanna bitch).  I'm just laying it all out for people, that's all.  The truth hit me a while ago . . . .

[TheDirector217]

Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  keep in mind with seats at MSG (and i dont know how this works entirely), but my firm has seats to EVERY show there. i dont know if they buy some sort of premium pass, but if my firm has seats for every show, i guarantee plenty of other big firms, plus the i-banks and every other place prob has tickets to every show too. so those seats are not sold. im sure soon enough ill see it listed on our intraweb that someone is selling tix (its face only naturally).
 
 plus the firm has a raffle system and gives away a good chunk of the tickets. i am curious if its the same seat for everything - because we have tix for EVERY event at MSG.

For access to some of these shows there's comped bottles of whatever you would like on me, a mix CD of Rachel       songs in the title & a new best friend in it for you.  And if you wish as a bonus, I can arrange to have your hair pulled by a male or female or your choice.  I'm just sayin' . . .
 
 My name is The Director, & I am a concert-aholic.     :confused:

[walkonby]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  American culture is pathetic. i'm moving to France.
 
   

Originally posted by TheDirector217:
   American culture is predicated upon tossing nice amounts of cake towards having a good time.  (Myself included.)  Have some friends over to watch a fight/game or your favorite Morrissey DVD?  Not without an HD bigscreen.  Party at the club for your birthday?  Not without a limo or poppin' some triple digit bottles.  Party at a bar/restaurant for drinks & good times?  Not without a triple digit bar tab.  Wanna see your favorite group live after a 20 year hiatus?  Not without paying triple digits.  Nosebleeds or floors, cause after you catch that high from the show & shake off those chicken tenders & 2 Millers you bought you're GONNA want a T-shirt.  Right??  Boom.  Soon as you walk out towards the Red Line/your car, you just tossed a Benjamin towards the gate & the merch gross.  It's all big business.  Some people live in a fantasy world (like these dumb ass Hannah Montana parents who probably didn't blink when they paid $100 to see Bruce or a couple hundred to see The Stones when they dropped their Amber & Chase off at Aunt Mildred's house but now they wanna bitch).  I'm just laying it all out for people, that's all.  The truth hit me a while ago . . . .

[/b]

human culture is pathetic.  move to the moon.

[Bombay Chutney]

But sometimes good things come to those who wait.  
 
 For example, if you're looking for good Police tickets  (for example, say section 2 Row M), now would be a very good time to check TM.

[sweetcell]

Originally posted by eros:
   

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  I blame it all on this guy:
 
     <img src="http://www.netwalk.com/~truegger/ftrh/Mikey1.jpg" alt=" - " />

Leave chokeychicken out of this! [/b]

and we have a new front-runner for post of the week!

[sweetcell]

once upon a time, bands toured to sell albums.  now that no one is buying albums b/c of online "sharing", bands make up the revenue via release albums to sell tour tickets.  i question how "free" all that downloaded music is.
 
 

Originally posted by xneverwherex:
 courtesy of the garden's website. i havent noticed any changes tho and still dont see much scalping.

if the gardens is like any other large venue that i've been to, these rules are never enforced.  police have way too many other things to deal with, scalpers are at best asked to leave... so they cross the street.