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kurosawa-b/w

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #15 on: July 25, 2005, 11:36:00 pm »
My lengthy report back:
 
 It was an intense, great couple of days. I am now a big fan of Lollapalooza in Grant Park. I really, really hope they make it an annual festival. It was extremely well-run and organized. The planning was impressive. And the location! Wow. Nothing beats being able to walk from your hotel downtown straight into the park. Iâ??ve been to both Coachella and Lolla now, and I think I preferred Lolla. Mainly because of the location and a lot of small perks that I donâ??t remember at Coachella. If you are a fan of camping and the desert, go with Coachella. If you are a fan of the city, go with Lolla. Itâ??s not as simple as that, but thatâ??s the big difference. There werenâ??t as many pretty people/LA glamour stars at Lolla. But like Coachella, everyone was polite, friendly  and excited about the music.
 
 5 stages. One stage was across the street in another part of the park. At first I found it strange, but then I liked it because it was a less-crowded place to retreat. The other 4 stages were in the four corners of a long field. All stages were open-air. No tents. Which meant good visibility for all four stages. They had two stages going at one time. The set times were incredibly punctual (and sometimes early) so you always had music. The sound overlap didnâ??t bother me that much. A couple of times, bands were not well-matched, and one drowned out the other in quiet bits. They just need to work on scheduling. If you walked closer to the stage, then you couldnâ??t hear the other stage unless your band was in between songs or quiet. Itâ??s a catch-22. Either you have to walk really far  between stages or you have some sound overlap.
 
 Summary of the bands I saw. Sometimes, I tried to catch half of each set when bands were on at the same time. Only once did I miss a band I wanted to see. So I felt like the scheduling was easier to manage than Coachella. The bands had longer sets at Lolla.
 
 SATURDAY
 
 Hard-Fi â?? I was very excited to see them. First band to play on Saturday, so there wasnâ??t much of a crowd. But the band played as if there were hundreds. Great energy. I look forward to seeing them in a club.
 
 M83 â?? Such an intense band live. I saw them at the Black Cat a while ago and loved their set. This show was more eerie because the sound poured out over the field. Crowd completely into it.
 
 The Warlocks â?? I only caught a couple of songs but liked them. Need to see more.
 
 The Dead 60â??s â?? A little too reggae for me on the slow songs. Good energy on the fast, dance songs. Not so impressed by them overall. Hard-Fi were much better.
 
 Ambulance Ltd. â?? You all know Iâ??m a fan. But I felt like they were tired and unable to compete with Trail of Dead who were very loud on the other stage. Lots of new material played. A weak set.
 
 Trail of Dead â?? Tore it up. I think theyâ??ve regained their live energy. Exciting set.
 
 Kaiser Chiefs â?? I donâ??t know what you all did to them the night before in DC, but Rickyâ??s voice was gone. A scorcher of a set none-the-less. The best parts were when 1) Nick called for Beetlebaum (quirky radio DJ) to come on stage and dance â??hilarious- and 2) when Ricky asked two crowd members to come on stage and sing Oh My God with him. I rarely listen to the Kaiser Chiefs album, but I really enjoy seeing them live. Good fun.
 
 Brian Jonestown Massacre â?? Anton seemed to be enjoying himself and the band played several lengthy jams. Iâ??m not a big jam fan, so I felt my mind wandering. But it was a solid set.
 
 The Bravery â?? I hadnâ??t seen them before, so this was the time to form my own opinion. Andâ?¦I found them boring. For me, there was no connection there â??unlike other bands over the course of the weekend.
 
 B-Boy Breakdown Royale â?? There is a special place in my heart for breakdancing. So I was thrilled to see this on the schedule. A classic breakdancing battle between squads. I loved every minute. Even if my favorite team didnâ??t winâ?¦
 
 The Black Keys â?? Not my favorite blues rock band but they still bring it full force. I find that their songs start to sound similar after a while, but what they play, they play incredibly well. I like them. But I prefer the 22-20s and The Blueskins.
 
 The Walkmen â?? The most surprising band of the festival for me. Mainly because I thought they played a fantastic set. I saw them a while ago and was thoroughly unimpressed. But they changed my mind with their short Lolla set. If they come back around, I may have to see them.
 
 Digable Planets â?? Iâ??m not a big Weezer fan, so I went to check out the Digibles set. A healthy crowd considering the competition. Really loved the set.
 
 SUNDAY â?? The Hot One
 
 The heat was rough when in the sun. But in the shade it was fine. There was a strong breeze coming off the lake which helped a lot.
 
 The Cathedrals â?? Winner of the Battle of the Bands. I really liked them a lot. Angular Interpol-like guitars with a more wailing vocal ala Muse. I think they showed a lot of potential and are definitely going places. Incredibly professional. Iâ??m sure theyâ??ll be signed soon.
 
 Saul Williams â?? One of the best American poets writing today, in my opinion. He has really developed his live show since I last saw him. I was really impressed by how he incorporated the mixed beats and guitar crunches with his poetry and song. A highlight was when he brought out Butterfly of Digible Planets to freestyle with him.
 
 Kasabian â?? Iâ??m not a huge fan of the tunes themselves, but I thought their live show had a lot of energy and attitude. I only lasted half the set and then had to retreat to the shade.
 
 Dinosaur Jr. â?? I donâ??t know why, but I just couldnâ??t get into their set. I could have been too far from the stage or just not in that frame of mind. Or just hot. Not sure.
 
 Louis XIV â?? Only caught the last two songs. Much better than when they played that Merriweather show. Less attitude and swagger. More real. I liked their bluesy songs. I didnâ??t realize their old stuff swerved in that direction.
 
 Ben Kweller â?? I like this guy. A friendly simple show of good tunes. Good for a festival.
 
 The Arcade Fire â?? In 105+ degree heat, I got chills when they played their first song. Quite simply, I think they are one of the best live bands Iâ??ve ever seen. Such passion, such extreme emotion. I cannot use enough adjectives to express my love for them. They played all of their best songs and the crowd shouted in delight. My two friends that came with me were converted.
 
 Spoon â?? I was getting food and getting a spot for the Dandies, so I only heard them in the background. I see what you all mean about a lack of energy. I almost forgot they were playing.
 
 The Dandy Warhols â?? I felt like the set started out rough. Some sound problems, etc. And the band seemed a little unsure. But then the set got stronger and was energized when Anton and Matt joined the band for the BJM song. That was the highlight, clearly. To see them all playing together again was a treat. The set ended on a quiet high note.
 
 Death Cab for Cutie â?? This band was perfectly suited for the warm night after a long day. Beautiful stories in song competing with the annoying Widespread Panic tunes floating from the other stage. The Death Cab set reminded me of why I like them. The new songs were like the old ones.
 
 -After show-  I went to Subterranean to see the High Dials and Hopewell. Unfortunately, I only caught the last Hopewell song. But the High Dials set was good fun. Subterranean is a cool little club.

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #16 on: July 26, 2005, 11:14:00 am »
Quick highlights --
 *Perry (along w/ Peter DiStefano) playing a coupla Porno for P tunes (100 Ways, Pets, and new Agua) on the kids stage
 
 *overcast day all of Sat, masking the heat that hit us Sunday
 
 *hometown hits The Redwalls had great first and closing songs.. rest mediocre
 
 *being able to easily  watch every-other-song from two close-by stages  (I prob. wouldn't do it again, for sonic sanity sake, but it was ok fun).  Did it for The Bravery/Cake; Black Keys/Primus; LouisXIV/DinoJr; BenKweller/DriveBys
 
 *DJ set by Mark Farina
 
 *HoBlues late show by STS9
 
 *Perry's new incarnation:  SATELLITE PARTY !! Terrific Perry stuff, incl. dancing girls, some exotic rhythms, a few Jane's sounding tunes.  Lovin it!
 
 *Nice layout, great skyline, mostly-perfect set start times;  decent prices (except for misrepresentations like "24oz ice tea" which was really 16 oz served in a big cup w/ ice!)
 
 GO LOLLA !

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #17 on: July 26, 2005, 02:02:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kurosawa-b/w:
  My lengthy report back:
Nice trip report! I've heard nothing but good reviews about the venue. I was at a rural festival this weekend and, after having been to Intonation in Chicago, have to agree that urban locations are definitely preferable.
 
 I don't know if I would have gone to Lolla this year had Hillside not happened. The cost and the crowds would probably have kept me away (though it would have been great to see so many bands I've been meaning to catch, but somehow keep missing).
 
 Very cool that you saw the High Dials. Did they say anything about possibly changing the venue in DC? And were they selling copies of the new CD?

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #18 on: July 27, 2005, 11:28:00 am »
Not nearly as comprehensive as Kurosawa's recount, but from the NY Times:
 
 July 26, 2005
 Looking Back on the Days of Daring Rock Rebellion
 
 By JON PARELES
 
 CHICAGO, July 25 - Lollapalooza is the trademark that refuses to retire. It made its latest comeback here in Grant Park on Saturday and Sunday: not a tour like previous Lollapaloozas, but a huge one-time event. The festival, which started in 1991, is no longer groundbreaking, and it has a lot of competitors for its old cachet. But with 20 hours of music from 50 bands over two days, there was plenty to hear: a few brilliantly idiosyncratic younger bands, a lot of retro rock, jam bands and some nostalgia for an era when alternative was alternative.
 
 It was a festival geared to grownups as well as young listeners willing to brave Chicago's hottest summer days in six years. For the first time Lollapalooza had entertainment for children, including a mini-set by the festival's creator, Perry Farrell.
 
 Mr. Farrell started Lollapalooza at the peak of his first and best band, Jane's Addiction. He remade a summer tour into an all-day showcase of noisy, taboo-testing bands, including (in 1991) Nine Inch Nails and Siouxsie and the Banshees, and visions of a daring alternative culture. But it didn't take long - with the help of MTV, gangsta rap and malls willing to sell nose rings - for Lollapalooza's community of rage and defiance to dissolve into a fashion statement. (Meanwhile, the suffix "palooza" became to rock events what "gate" had been to political scandals: ubiquitous.)
 
 After the 1997 Lollapalooza tour, the festival disappeared until 2003, when Mr. Farrell reunited Jane's Addiction and reactivated the Lollapalooza name for a tamer tour that had plenty of corporate sponsors. A 2004 Lollapalooza tour was booked and then canceled for lack of ticket sales. In the meantime, touring festivals like the Warped Tour and Ozzfest had picked up the old Lollapalooza model - multiple stages, an overload of bands - while the Coachella Festival in California emerged as a new alternative benchmark.
 
 Lollapalooza has reappeared at a time when there's not much generalized rebellion in popular music. Rock is full of mostly petty personal complaints, not the existential rage of the early 1990's; many rockers are looking inward.
 
 The best of the festival's relatively new bands, the Arcade Fire and Death Cab for Cutie, explore private realms. For the Arcade Fire, those are the childhood reminiscences and fantasies of Win Butler. Sung in a quavery voice, carried on surges of rock guitar, and orchestrated with fiddles, French horn and plinking, tinkling instruments, the songs became anthems that still sounded homespun. Death Cab for Cutie transformed what could be gentle folk-rock - Benjamin Gibbard has a small, reedy voice and strums an acoustic guitar - into rhapsodic songs. As Mr. Gibbard sang about crumbling relationships, melodies gave way to guitar crescendos, quiet vows turned into obsessively repeated lines, and the music rose and fell with every emotional current, finding beauty in the way form followed dysfunction.
 
 At this Lollapalooza, it was up to an extremely minimal hip-hop contingent to supply social consciousness - another change from the old Lollapalooza, which prided itself on its mix. The reunited Digable Planets, in songs from their early-1990's albums, had a jazzy, relaxed delivery for their densely packed rhymes, while the poet Saul Williams, accompanied by a disc jockey with a drum machine, mingled allusive imagery and fervent political sloganeering.
 
 Many of the rock bands on the bill looked back at one of two eras. There was a contingent fixated on the new wave and post-punk of the 1980's, including Spoon, the Bravery, the Killers, the Kaiser Chiefs and a Chicago band, the Changes, that adds some nimble guitar patterns by way of the Police. Other bands reached back to 1960's styles, reviving British Invasion and mid-1960's garage-rock (the Ponys, the Redwalls, OK Go) and spacy psychedelic drones (the Warlocks, Brian Jonestown Massacre, the Dandy Warhols, Kasabian).
 
 There was also a power-pop contingent Weezer and Ben Kweller - and earthy Southern rock from Widespread Panic and the Drive-By Truckers. Billy Idol, whose leather-clad, MTV-ready pop posturing would never have gotten him booked at the old Lollapalooza, raised his fist and sneered once again for a crowd that was happy to sing along.
 
 Mr. Farrell's own new band, Satellite Party, made its debut on Sunday afternoon; its mixture of rock guitar, dance rhythms and touches of world music didn't have songs to gel around. A collegiate-rock staple from the 1990's, Liz Phair, has lately reined herself in; the songs she previewed from her next album, "Somebody's Miracle," aspired only to be pretty and generic.
 
 Two of the festival's most ferocious sets came from reunited bands formed in the 1980's: the Pixies, who have been touring steadily for a year, and the newly regrouped Dinosaur Jr. They are two very different guitar bands. The Pixies play succinct, catchy, wild-eyed songs that burst into perfectly timed screams; Dinosaur Jr. merges slacker insecurity with expansive power-trio dynamics, and while its leader, J Mascis, now has long gray hair, his guitar still peals and slashes. Among younger bands, only ... And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead, formed in 1994, had the same volatility; its songs veered from sullen to life-affirming as the guitars tolled slowly and then broke into frenzied punk tremolos.
 
 During a Sunday set, the Killers, whose album, "Hot Fuss," has sold two million copies in the United States, played their joke song "Indie Rock & Roll" - a pompous, arena-rock-style march in praise of modest indie rock. It took on extra ironies at Lollapalooza, which was once a conduit from indie to mainstream and now has to contend with the results of its success more than a decade ago. This year's Lollapalooza hasn't solved the identity crisis, but it does keep that trademark alive.

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #19 on: July 27, 2005, 11:32:00 am »
And, Pareles' Lolla journal (there are lots of audio clips -- just sound bytes, not full songs -- available at the NY Times  website, but you have to be registered -- free, but I know some of y'all freak at the idea):
 
 Lollapalooza Journal
 Jon Pareles at the Lollapalooza Music Festival
 JULY 25 | 2:08 AM
 A Revamped Miscellany
 
 The Killers' "Indie Rock & Roll" was always a good joke: a big, pompous arena-rock march with lyrics vowing loyalty to indie rock. It was even funnier to hear it played at Lollapalooza, the festival that began as a conduit from indie to mainstream and, in its latest incarnation, was full of bands - like the Killers - whose songs have latched on to old indie styles that now sound so familiar they're accepted by pop radio stations. (The indie-loving Killers have sold 2 million copies of their album, "Hot Fuss," in the United States.) New wave rock always prided itself on its pop clarity, and had its share of hit singles the first time around; with the current neo wave, sounds that once alarmed radio gatekeepers just register as attention-getters. And whether or not they feel arch about it, the Killers also know how to write a jealous, synthesizer-pumped, neo wave song like "Mr. Brightside" and put it across as pure pop melodrama.
 
 Steve Kagan for The New York Times
 John Bell of Widespread Panic, which ended the festival with an upbeat show. More Photos >
 
 Jon Pareles is the chief pop music critic for The New York Times.
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 Sampled at certain moments, Death Cab for Cutie can sound like the kind of mild-mannered folk-pop that tries to make self-absorbed whining sound pretty and palatable. Those moments are misleading, which is why I was enthralled by the band's set. Benjamin Gibbard, the band's songwriter, is self-absorbed and then some, and he does have a modest, reedy voice. But as his confessions grow more painful, or his imagery grows more elusive, pretty melodies are swallowed in guitar crescendoes and vows turn into obsessions. He sang old songs, and a few from the band's album due in August, about disillusionment with himself, with lovers, with a father he can't forgive even at his funeral. The songs, especially a quiet and then shattering "Transatlanticism," were precisely plotted but never simplified. The beauty of the music was the way form followed dysfunction.
 
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 T-shirts told the story. On Sunday afternoon, I started noticing quite a few souvenirs from Phish concerts and some Jerry Garcia memorials. That's because the last few hours of the festival drew on the jam-band circuit. It's a bastion of self-reliant indie-ness that's often disdained by hipsters, and that certainly found no place at previous Lollapaloozas. This year, Lollapalooza's finale belonged to Widespread Panic, the Southern rock jam band that was booked for two sets on Sunday evening.
 
 I can't resist calling it deja Bonnaroo, since Widespread Panic headlined the last two nights of that festival in June, where I had soaked up four sets stretching about 7 hours. What I heard of Widespread Panic tonight - I was mostly at the bands playing simultaneously across the field, though the sound from their stage was loud and clear - suggested that being surrounded by bands that prized concision kept Widespread Panic mostly upbeat, a good thing. But they certainly picked a bleak ending for the festival: "Climb to Safety," a vision of disaster - trainwreck and drowning - in which the singer offers himself as a ladder to someone who may not use it.
 
 From its 1991 inception, Lollapalooza was always, and pointedly, a variety show: a proscriptive one, insisting to its audience that there was music it would be happy to discover. This year's revamping was more of a miscellany: ferocious alternative bands of yesteryear, current million-sellers, many revivalists and a handful of brilliant younger bands. The festival was booked at the last minute after waiting for the city of Chicago's approval, said Perry Farrell, its creator; that might explain some of the unevenness. This year's festival didn't forge a 21st-century identity for Lollapalooza, but there was enough strong music to keep that prized trademark alive.
 
 DAY 2, JULY 24 | 9:08 PM
 Homegrown Anthems
 
 A lot of the bands at Lollapalooza have been stuck in the past: their own better days or the retro styles they love best. The Arcade Fire's chiming, triumphant set just proved it doesn't have to be that way.
 
 The band has a different past in mind: warped, semi-fantasized recollections of childhood from Win Butler, a Texan relocated to Montreal. He finds parables in power failures and parental secrets, and the Arcade Fire sets them in songs that are both churning and comforting. Sure, the band has guitars, but it also has fiddles, French horn and an assortment of instruments that plink and tinkle. Mr. Butler's weedy high voice leaps above a surging beat, but is nestled in what sounds like a parlor orchestra: it rocks and it's folksy, but it's definitely not folk-rock.
 
 The songs magnify a private world into something like anthems - the audience that packed the field cheered with every crescendo - but they're anthems that sound strictly homegrown.
 
 DAY 2, JULY 24 | 7:30 PM
 A Party Full of Funk, Rock and Dancing Girls
 
 It's his party and he'll play if he wants to: Perry Farrell, Lollapalooza's founder, introduced his latest band, Satellite Party, this afternoon. He's still after an optimum mix of world-music exotica (a sitar twang, a touch of Arabic vocalizing), anthemic choruses, danceable funk and hard-rock riffing, and as he has since his days with Jane's Addiction, he likes to have dancing girls onstage. He's a born performer, skinny and graceful and self possessed. He made things simple for the crowd: Before each song the video screen showed its title (next step: subtitles!). But the songs....well...they're slight at best. Mr. Farrell seems blissed out these days, with choruses like "awesome" and "you make my whole life easy." Nice for him, but not for his songwriting.
 
 By the way, will every festival now have its own cellphone duty? Live 8 collected names, and Mr. Farrell announced that Lollapalooza was collecting text messages to demand steps against global warming. He called it a "virtual march," though it's more like a petition. Marches are more strenous; still, anyone on their feet here and dancing in the heat could probably handle it.
 
 DAY 2, JULY 24 | 6:00 PM
 Dinosaur Jr. Reunites for a Magnificent Set
 
 J Mascis's hair was long and unkempt when his trio Dinosaur Jr. headlined Lollapalooza in 1993. This year, it's still long and completely gray, which didn't stop him from playing a magnificent set. Dinosaur Jr.'s songs were college-radio staples in the 1990's for the paradoxical way they put power-trio clout and flailing guitar solos behind Mr. Mascis's drawled reflections on his failings. Reunited with Dinosaur Jr.'s bassist, Lou Barlow, who had gone on to start Sebadoh, he didn't make any time for his lackadaisical side. In songs like "Sludgefeast" and "Bulbs of Passion" he sounded equally fed up with himself and the world, and then the guitar soared above it all. Is it only a booking coincidence that two of Lollapalooza's fiercest bands, Dinosaur Jr. and the Pixies, have been "alternative" rockers from the previous decade?
 
 
 DAY 2, JULY 24 | 4:30 PM
 Pulsating Keyboards and Swelling Guitars
 
 As Lollapalooza got under way this morning, the earnestness of a new band could be gauged by the retro era it chose. Rowdy types favored the 1960's, like the Ponys, who add a punk-rock bawl to their garage-rock and folk-rock, or Kasabian, a band that likes slinging science jargon over pulsating keyboards and swelling, echoing guitars out of vintage psychedelic space-rock.
 
 The really nice guys â?? there are hardly any women in today's lineup â?? are devoting themselves to the guitar patterns and pained confessions of 1980's mope-rock. The Changes had insistent, tightly wound patterns behind a singer with a tender croon, like Morrissey of the Smiths, as he professed unrequited love. Cathedrals, whose patterns were more measured, leaned toward the Cure. Both bands are promising, if they can only outgrow their album collections. After all, there's more than one way to do the Cure, as J Mascis and Dinosaur Jr. proved when they revved up and pulverized the Cure's "Just Like Heaven."
 
 DAY 2, JULY 24 | 3:30 PM
 New Wave and 1960's Garage Rock
 
 Only the foolhardy and the dedicated arrived for the noontime hour of Lollapalooza in 91-degree heat. But that didn't stop one of the day's first bands, OK Go, from performing in jackets and ties, socking out songs that split the difference between new wave rock and its 1960's garage-rock roots. Not only that-at the end of their set they put down their instruments and as their next single, "A Million Ways," was played through the P.A., they stood side by side and started a full-length dance routine: swinging and crossing their arms, pivoting and semaphoring, even throwing mock-punches to the beat. N'Sync has nothing to fear, but the Monkees should look to their legacy.
 
 DAY 1, JULY 24 | 1:30 AM
 Power Pop and Hip-Hop
 
 Two kinds of deceptive coziness wound up Day 1 of Lollapalooza, with simultaneous sets: power pop from Weezer and hip-hop from Digable Planets. Reunited after 10 years. Ladybug (a woman), Doodlebug and Butterfly (two men) returned to the dense, free-associative raps from the two albums Digable Planets made in the early 1990's. Their backup band, including Gil Scott-Heron's longtime collaborator Brian Jackson on keyboards, dispensed funk, jazz vamps or synthesizer blips and hisses. Digable Planets' conversational tone understates the complexity of their rhymes, which stir together Brooklyn pride and fashion statements with politics A decade ago, they won a Grammy award; now, they would fit in alongside self-styled underground rap, which rarely reaches the Digable Planets' balance of ease and ambition.
 
 Weezer proffered the comforts of pop-rock, looking back to the music of Buddy Holly and the Beatles, but adding some power chords and filling in the song forms with confessions of alienation, loneliness and despair. Were they getting women's squeals and full-crowd singalongs for the songs' reassuring catchiness, or for the anomie of the lyrics?
 
 DAY 1, JULY 23 | 10:30 PM
 No One Wants to Miss the Pixies
 
 A year after they started a reunion tour that has by now reached virtually every whistlestop in the United States and Europe, the Pixies are still the band that no one wants to miss. At Lollapalooza, a club-sized audience stayed with the Walkmen, the New York City band that plays worked-up, bent-up garage-rock, but everyone else flocked to the Pixies. For a band that barely got a chance at arena shows in the United States before it broke up in 1992 â?? it opened for U2 â?? the Pixies turn out to be ideal for wide open spaces. Frank Black's songs announce themselves with guitar lines that blare happily across crowds in the thousands, and then each song gets its own skew: with lyrics about suicide, incest, UFO's and Luis Bunuel, with vocals that coo or snarl or scream, with distorted guitar solos applied like electroshock therapy. The Pixies always were businesslike on stage â?? there seems to be a band rule against saying more than 10 words between songs â?? so those twisted hooks just keep coming. The songs are lean, funny, precise and untameable, and now that the first blast of Pixies nostalgia is over, the songs are still standing on their own.
 
 DAY 1, JULY 23 | 8:33 PM
 Not Hip to Hip-Hop
 
 A few stray thoughts:
 
 What happened to current hip-hop? Back in the Lollapaloozas of yore, the organizers took pride in the way supposedly separate audinces would enjoy Snoop Dogg along with Korn, Wu-Tang Clan along with the Ramones. They were right â?? rock and hip-hop long ago learned to party together.
 
 Hip-hop even developed schisms, as rock had, between commercial strivers and self-consciously indie types, so Lollapalooza could have chosen all kinds of sounds and postures. For that matter, Chicago-rooted rappers, like Kanye West and Common, have done well lately by defying the formulas of bling-bling and crunk. But you'd never know it from Lollapalooza's lineup, which is as overwhelmingly white as the widely criticized Live 8 concert in London was.
 
 Even the festival's bits of funk and blues come from white bands like Primus and the Black Keys. There have been disc-jockey sets on a small stage, and the reunited Digable Planets is on tonight's bill. The hip-hop poet Saul Williams is due to perform Sunday, but the virtual exclusion of hip-hop makes neither commercial nor musical sense.
 
 Another stray thought: As the day wears on, more and more people are wandering by with Lollapalooza 2005 T-shirts, and not carrying anything else with them. What were they wearing when they got here?
 
 DAY 1, JULY 23 | 6:34 PM
 Mad at Carrabba
 
 People who saw the documentary "Dig" now expect anarchy from Anton Newcombe, the lead singer of the Brian Jonestown Massacre. What they got at Lollapalooza today was spacy, deliberative drone-songs (one feedback-laden coda stretched beyond 10 minutes) and snide comedy at the expense of Chris Carrabba of Dashboard Confessional, whose ultra-sincere songs about tormented romance came blasting across the field during every pause.
 
 He pointed a finger, he cursed, he called Mr. Carrabba "Jon Bon Jovi," he said he would put the band's picture over his bed "for birth control." Finally, he sneered, "Don't give up your day job, punk!" Sound bleed, as the engineers call it, has its benefits.
 
 DAY 1, JULY 23 | 5:44 PM
 A Phair Comeback
 
 Liz Phair is part of Lollapalooza's hometown Chicago contingent, and she started her summer tour with a midafternoon set including two songs from her next album, "Somebody's Miracle." They suggest she's unrepentant about her move toward radio-ready, slickly produced pop on her 2003 album "Liz Phair."
 
 The new songs, "Somebody's Miracle" and "Everything to Me," are determinedly straightforward, striving for the classic simplicity of old girl-group songs; they lament the way romance is passing her by and head for chiming three-chord choruses: "I wish it could happen to me," she sang in "Somebody's Miracle." Earnestly crafted and determinedly generic, they were like senior projects for a songwriting class. But they had none of the personality of the old songs that shared the set like "Supernova," which was just as tuneful and romantic, but way too strange for the mainstream Phair.
 
 DAY 1, JULY 23 | 4:05 PM
 A Re-Invention
 
 At the entrance to the Lollapalooza Festival here at Grant Park in downtown Chicago, a list of do's and don'ts includes moshing, crowd-surfing and stage diving â?? among the don'ts. That's only one of the changes for this latter-day Lollapalooza, which has turned from traveling extravaganza to a one-weekend festival, from a taboo-tester to a magnet for corporate sponsors.
 
 It's not your parent's Lollapalooza, or maybe it is: This year, there's a stage of children's entertainment, where Lollapalooza's creator, Perry Farrell, performed with Peter DiStefano from his old band Porno for Pyros. They found two Porno for Pyros songs, "100 Ways" and "Pets," that were family-friendly, and played a new one, "Agua," about how dolphins just "smile and swim away."
 
 "The world has changed," Mr. Farrell said beforehand backstage. "I'm not afraid of the mainstream. The mainstream is not such bad people."
 
 The festival is taking place on the wide, flat Hutchinson Field, with big stages at each corner. Bands playing simultaneously simply have to drown out one another.
 
 When Lollapalooza started in 1991, it announced that punk, hip-hop, tattooed hard rock and pierced post-punk rock were headed for every mall in America. Once they got there, Lollapalooza didn't seem so alternative: it signed off after 1997, resumed as a mainstream rock showcase in 2003, foundered and was canceled in 2004 and has returned with more than 50 bands on five rock stages over two days.
 
 Getting its cachet back will be tough if not impossible. Other festivals, like Coachella in California, have seized the initiative; one of today's headliners, the reunited Pixies, was at Coachella last year. But Mr. Farrell's taste ensures that a good percentage of the music is worth hearing, even on a bill that extends from the 1980s MTV nostalgia of Billy Idol to the jam-band Southern rock of Widespread Panic, which headlined the Bonnaroo festival last month.
 
 Most of Saturday's early bands harked back well before the first Lollapalooza. Redwalls switched between microphone-sharing Beatles harmonies and Rolling Stones snarls. Ambulance Ltd. played wistfully tuneful 1960's-style pop with some bitter twists: "Relax, don't think about the way I treat you." The Warlocks, with three guitars tolling away, got their drone from the Velvet Underground and the Jesus and Mary Chain, while M83, which had its female vocalists recorded, drew its drones from someplace more dreamlike.
 
 ...And You Will Know Us by the Trail of Dead would have sounded at home in the 1990's. The songs were volatile, intemperate outbursts: sullen and life-affirming, slowly tolling and then breaking into frenzied punk tremolos. They even kicked over equipment at the end of the set. Sure, it was precedented, but for a moment it was like an old Lollapalooza.

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #20 on: July 27, 2005, 11:43:00 am »
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  1) Nick called for Beetlebaum (quirky radio DJ) to come on stage and dance â??hilarious-
was it  Beatle Bob ?

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #21 on: July 27, 2005, 01:30:00 pm »
That's who that was. A lot older than that picture though.

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« Reply #22 on: July 27, 2005, 01:34:00 pm »
I don't think Beatle Bob has ever been a radio dj.
 
 I remember him coming up and talking to me at a music festival in Alabama in 1996. Only later did I find out who he was.
 
 
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  1) Nick called for Beetlebaum (quirky radio DJ) to come on stage and dance â??hilarious-
was it  Beatle Bob ? [/b]

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #23 on: July 27, 2005, 01:35:00 pm »
He actually intro'ed several of the bands this past weekend.

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #24 on: July 27, 2005, 08:45:00 pm »
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  1) Nick called for Beetlebaum (quirky radio DJ) to come on stage and dance â??hilarious-
was it  Beatle Bob ? [/b]
Oh yeah. That's definitely him. I guess you hear what you want to hear. lol He had some great dance moves.

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #25 on: July 27, 2005, 10:33:00 pm »
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 []Oh yeah. That's definitely him. I guess you hear what you want to hear. lol He had some great dance moves. [/QB]
He sure does. Check him out in the  My Kind of Soldier video,shot and written in his honor.                                                                                              http://www.matadorrecords.com/guided_by_voices/music.html

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Re: Lollapaloooooooza - Anyone Going
« Reply #26 on: July 28, 2005, 12:55:00 pm »
just got back last night. it was a great show although i enjoyed coachella much more last year. my highlights were meeting anton newcombe and matt hollywood, trading your momma jokes and causing anton to spill a beer on his crotch. the arcade fire set was fantastic...met them at my hotel that morning as they checked in. not a highlight, but i did see liz phair making out with a scuzzy guy in the lobby of my hotel before proceeding upstairs.
 
 beetle bob was everywhere...last time i saw him was at the last gbv show in chicago on NYE. at lolla, he was backstage for the warlocks, BJM, satellite party and many others.