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Sage 703

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Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« on: June 21, 2007, 01:23:00 pm »
http://www.wjla.com/news/stories/0607/433174.html
 
 D.C. Council members are considering changing the District's midnight summer youth curfew to 10 p.m. in an effort to cut crime.
 Members of the council are expected to vote Thursday on emergency legislation aimed at keeping children under 17 off the streets from 10 p.m. until 5 a.m. Mondays through Thursdays. The curfew's start time would be rolled back to 11 p.m. on weekends.
 
 Ward Six Councilman Tommy Wells says the curfew would help keep kids safe.
 
 Councilman Jim Graham says the earlier curfew will help keep young people out of mischief.
 
 Under District law, teenagers can be out later than the curfew if they are on errands at the direction of a parent or guardian. There are also exceptions for those who are on their way home from work or on an outing with a civic or church group.
 
 Passage of the emergency legislation will take nine of 13 council votes.
 
 
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 Effectively keeps underage kids out of nightclubs, wouldn't you think?  Seems kind of sneaky to me, and devastating to all ages shows.
 
 This meeting is happening today.
 
 I was forwarded this message from the Black Cat:
 
 Hi all,
 
 Councilmember Tommy Wells proposed emergency legislation today that would change DC's summer curfew laws. As the law currently stands, the curfew applies to those 16 and under, with curfew hours beginning at 11pm on the weekdays and midnight on the weekends.  Wells' new proposal would up the age to 17 and the time to 10pm on  weekdays and 11pm on weekends. And, add that to the fact that club owners have recently been told that any curfew law on record will now be enforced by the ABC Board and by the police at all establishments  with liquor licenses.
 
 
 So, Wells' proposal would, in effect, create a ban on all-ages shows - as it would prevent anyone 17 and under from being at a show or club  (or restaurant, party, house show, etc.) after 10pm on weekdays and 11pm on weekends. In other words, it's a back-door method of achieving the very outcome that people so roundly criticized and fought against months ago. The worst part of this is that the meeting on Wells' proposal is being held tomorrow at City Council (Thursday) and there will be no public comment as this is "emergency legislation."
 
 Please email ALL 13 members of the city council members NOW!!! and tell them to vote NO on the "Youth Summer Emergency Amendment Act of 2007". Pass this on fast because we need to contact  councilmembers before Thursday's hearing!
 
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 Chairman  Vincent C. Gray
 vgray@dccouncil.us
 cmurray@dccouncil.us
 
 Councilmember Carol Schwartz
 schwartzc@dccouncil.washington.dc.us
 
 Councilmember David A. Catania
 dcatania@dccouncil.washington.dc.us
 
 Councilmember Phil Mendelson
 pmendelson@dccouncil.washington.dc.us
 
 Councilmember Kwame R. Brown
 kbrown@dccouncil.us
 
 Councilmember Jim Graham
 jgraham@dccouncil.us
 
 Chairman Pro Tempore Jack Evans
 jackevans@dccouncil.washington.dc.us
 
 Councilmember Mary M. Cheh
 mcheh@dccouncil.washington.dc.us
 
 Councilmember  Muriel Bowser
 mbowser@dccouncil.washington.dc.us
 
 Councilmember Harry Thomas, Jr.
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 Councilmember Tommy Wells
 twells@dccouncil.washington.dc.us
 
 Councilmember Yvette Alexander
 yalexander@dccouncil.washington.dc.us
 
 Councilmember Marion Barry
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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #1 on: June 21, 2007, 01:40:00 pm »
Who, do you think, will the kids be safe from via this curfew?

Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #2 on: June 21, 2007, 01:53:00 pm »
I think 11PM for 16 and under and 12PM for 17 year olds would be more fair during the non-school summer months.

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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #3 on: June 21, 2007, 02:01:00 pm »
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Originally posted by callat703:
 As the law currently stands, the curfew applies to those 16 and under, with curfew hours beginning at 11pm on the weekdays and midnight on the weekends.
If the clubs are  that concerned about all-ages shows - start them an hour earlier.

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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #4 on: June 21, 2007, 02:08:00 pm »
Bombay Chutney, please!
 
 Yes, many cities have all-ages shows that start and end by a certain time.  D.C. is not one of them and I don't think that it is viable for venues like the Black Cat to become like that.  Dante said at the hearing in January that without all ages shows, the venue would probably/he would want to have the venue close.  We all know how clubs profit: alcohol.  Moving the start times earlier is not conducive to liquor sales.  Many venues are just struggling to stay afloat.  And it would have to be much more than an hour.  Mainstage shows on the weekend at Black Cat regularly end far close or past one o'clock.  To allow enough time for kids to get home without violating curfew shows would have to end at 10:30.  It just isn't practical.  And on weekdays?  Ending at 9:30 so kids can be home by 10:00?  What time should doors be?  5:00?  It would require venues to completely restructure their employment and time/money commitments.
 
 When the legislation was much more explicitly targeting music back in January a lot of people were gung-ho about fighting it.  We need the same energy versus this issue.

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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #5 on: June 21, 2007, 02:10:00 pm »
The bill was defeated!

Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #6 on: June 21, 2007, 02:17:00 pm »
Why is moving shows to an earlier time not conducive to selling alcohol? Are there really that many people who wait for the stroke of midnight and say to themselves, "Oh wow, time to start drinking."?

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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #7 on: June 21, 2007, 02:20:00 pm »
I've been known to wait until the stroke of noon.
 
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Why is moving shows to an earlier time not conducive to selling alcohol? Are there really that many people who wait for the stroke of midnight and say to themselves, "Oh wow, time to start drinking."?

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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #8 on: June 21, 2007, 02:20:00 pm »
What about cutting the lineup to two bands instead of the usual three?
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kookiemnstr8

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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #9 on: June 21, 2007, 02:22:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Why is moving shows to an earlier time not conducive to selling alcohol? Are there really that many people who wait for the stroke of midnight and say to themselves, "Oh wow, time to start drinking."?
People work, can't get there in time, etc.  The good thing about later start times for clubs is the availability of the alcohol drinking clientele.

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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #10 on: June 21, 2007, 02:27:00 pm »
joe, good suggestion... but that's a double-edged sword.  bands need to get practice and exposure, so wedging in no-name opening acts fosters future talent.  sorta like the minor leagues.
 
 
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  Who, do you think, will the kids be safe from via this curfew?
online biggots mascarading as free-speech freedom fighters?
 
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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #11 on: June 21, 2007, 02:29:00 pm »
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  I've been known to wait until the stroke of noon.
Poast of the day!
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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #12 on: June 21, 2007, 02:33:00 pm »
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Originally posted by sweetcell:
  joe, good suggestion... but that's a double-edged sword.  bands need to get practice and exposure, so wedging in no-name opening acts fosters future talent.  sorta like the minor leagues.
 
Right, and because most tours have a three band line-up, I think some would skip D.C. and play elsewhere because it would mean one band would lose a night of revenue.

Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #13 on: June 21, 2007, 02:33:00 pm »
What percentage of the population, outside of retail workers, are working until 10 pm?
 
 
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Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Why is moving shows to an earlier time not conducive to selling alcohol? Are there really that many people who wait for the stroke of midnight and say to themselves, "Oh wow, time to start drinking."?
People work, can't get there in time, etc.  The good thing about later start times for clubs is the availability of the alcohol drinking clientele. [/b]

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Re: Emergency Curfew Legislation in DC
« Reply #14 on: June 21, 2007, 02:33:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Graace:
 People work, can't get there in time, etc.  The good thing about later start times for clubs is the availability of the alcohol drinking clientele.
I always thought the later start times were to keep people drinking and eating while they wait for the show to start...
 (Has anyone else noticed an increase of adding a  third band to bills at Iota and JJ?)