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[Herr Professor Doktor Doom]

Originally posted by grotty:
   

Originally posted by econo:
  So what happens when the Greens are the only ones that are in line with your values?
 

Then you do everything you can to ensure that the ones that are least in line with your values do not take control. [/b]

well said.

[Bartelby]

Kosmo:  If you think the Patriot Act is scarey, check out the CAPPS II project already underway. If you flew on United Airlines anywhere in the U.S. during June of this year, you're already part of the database!  Makes you proud to be an American, oui? How much do you love your Giant and Safeway discount cards?  You might want to dump them and start paying cash instead of with an ATM/Bank card.  Why?  Google "CAPPS II" and find out!  Four more years of this, all in the name of "national security."??!!!! Hmmmm.

[Bags]

Originally posted by Summerteeth:
     

Originally posted by grotty:
  The ultimate in Bush's hypocrisy:
 
 Save the fetus! Kill the teenage soldier.
 
 

Let us not forget the hypocrisy of many liberals:
 
 Kill the fetus.  However, don't kill the convicted murderer.
 
 If the former is hypocritical, the latter certainly is as well.  Don't lose sight of that. [/b]

Wrong.  A fetus is not a life.  A convicted felon, even a retarded one, is a life.  
 
 I respect life, which means I believe every life should have a chance at health care, education, a job with a living wage, the right to its own religion/life partner.  The death penalty is about revenge -- don't think Jesus would be too in to that.
 
 The reason pro-lifers are hypocritical on this is their support of the "sanctity of life" -- even a felon is a life.  A life is a life.  If they believe a fetus is a life, there's certainly proof, then, that a felon is a life.  Even scientific proof of that one.  
 
 Oh, maybe it's that the fetus hasn't had a chance to sin against Jesus yet, so it's a more worthy life.
 
 Oops, but isn't a life a life...?  Who's to judge worthiness...?
 
 summerteeth -- don't take this as a personal flame; I saw your second post, I'm not trying to attack you -- sorry if it comes off that way.  But I don't think it's an apples to apples hypocrisy argument.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I'm glad you weren't my mommy.

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by Bags:
  Wrong.  A fetus is not a life.  A convicted felon, even a retarded one, is a life.  
 
 I respect life, which means I believe every life should have a chance at health care, education, a job with a living wage, the right to its own religion/life partner.  The death penalty is about revenge -- don't think Jesus would be too in to that.
 
 The reason pro-lifers are hypocritical on this is their support of the "sanctity of life" -- even a felon is a life.  A life is a life.  If they believe a fetus is a life, there's certainly proof, then, that a felon is a life.  Even scientific proof of that one.  
 
 Oh, maybe it's that the fetus hasn't had a chance to sin against Jesus yet, so it's a more worthy life.
 
 Oops, but isn't a life a life...?  Who's to judge worthiness...?
 

to defend the defenseless. . .wouldn't you agree that the murderer made the choice to kill?  whereas the unborn fetus has no choice?  
 
 the basic point is this:  you and i make choices everyday. . some people decide that they want to kill someone, and that's illegal, and prosecuted under the laws of that state.  people have the choice to commit suicide, etc.  as for the fetus, without making a judgement on whether or not that's a "life," the point there is that the fetus can't make a choice.

[Bags]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I'm glad you weren't my mommy.

I'd never have an abortion.
 
 Change that, if my life were threatened, I'd consider it, but I'd probably risk it.

[Bags]

Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  to defend the defenseless. . .wouldn't you agree that the murderer made the choice to kill?  whereas the unborn fetus has no choice?  
 
 people have the choice to commit suicide, etc.  

Nope, I don't think people should be killed for their choices.  There are PLENTY of punishments available, probably many that are worse.  I've never been too keen on punishing via the very crime that is being punished.
 
 Suicide is illegal, by the way.  Maybe we should kill those who attempt it.

[Bartelby]

Bags:  LOLOLOL : Kill those who attempt suicide.  You're brilliant!  
 
 With regards to the earlier thread: Abortion: Let's think about this:  For every abortion, there's a penis involved.  Very few in vitro mommies go to abortion clinics...any disagreement there, venerable Board?  So, if the penii's (what is the plural of penis?) became MORE involved/responsible/interested in this abortion issue and perhaps more participatory in the results of the - ahem - pregnancy - what then?  Okay, I advocated a "nookie boycott" which obviously failed.  Now, you born again Christian, extremeist, holier than thou - in charge of the world Republican Christian men - put your penis where your mouths are - You should start rescueing dumpster babies.  YOU made this world, you asked for it; stop talking; start acting. More money/tax breaks for adoption/fund homes for unwed mothers /provide prenatal clinics for uninsure mothers/finance prenatal care/ education in high schools.  (Since you now believe birth control to be "abortion", you better refocus on indoctrinating/aiding high school kids.) Start putting your money where your mouths are...and quit spending MILLIONS of dollar to speak your message:  Start acting your message:  Save these unwanted children/dumpster babies/husbandless mothers.  You friggin hypocrites!  signed:  An UNFERTILE but pissed off, loser Democrat woman.

I'm going out on a limb here, but I bet Bags secretly wishes she was Rhett's mommy...?
 
 

Originally posted by Bags:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I'm glad you weren't my mommy.

I'd never have an abortion.
 
 Change that, if my life were threatened, I'd consider it, but I'd probably risk it. [/b]

[Venerable Bede]

Originally posted by Suki:
 
 With regards to the earlier thread: Abortion: Let's think about this:  For every abortion, there's a penis involved.  Very few in vitro mommies go to abortion clinics...any disagreement there, venerable Board?  So, if the penii's (what is the plural of penis?) became MORE involved/responsible/interested in this abortion issue and perhaps more participatory in the results of the - ahem - pregnancy - what then?  Okay, I advocated a "nookie boycott" which obviously failed.  Now, you born again Christian, extremeist, holier than thou - in charge of the world Republican Christian men - put your penis where your mouths are - You should start rescueing dumpster babies.  YOU made this world, you asked for it; stop talking; start acting. More money/tax breaks for adoption/fund homes for unwed mothers /provide prenatal clinics for uninsure mothers/finance prenatal care/ education in high schools.  (Since you now believe birth control to be "abortion", you better refocus on indoctrinating/aiding high school kids.) Start putting your money where your mouths are...and quit spending MILLIONS of dollar to speak your message:  Start acting your message:  Save these unwanted children/dumpster babies/husbandless mothers.  You friggin hypocrites!  signed:  An UNFERTILE but pissed off, loser Democrat woman.

ahhh, a post that could even upset mankie.  father's rights, i don't think any men on here would have a problem with a say in the decision.  the problem is that for each woman that discusses the situation with their boyfriend/husband, there's another that believes it's her's and only her decision.  i congratulate you that you would want the man to take charge in the relationship and tell you what to do.  
 
 also, i believe that tax credits have indeed increased for parents that adopt children, and, not to mention, parents that keep children.  and you're right, educating teenagers is an excellent step toward unwanted pregnancies, but so is spending money on teaching parents the value of family and being a parent.  education starts at home, and you can't expect school to do it for them. . .
 
 what makes you think i'm a born-again right wing christian?  
 
 oh, suki, love ya in gilmore girls!

[Bags]

Originally posted by marquee smith:
  I'm going out on a limb here, but I bet Bags secretly wishes she was Rhett's mommy...?
 

Think of the spanking that would have gone on....    :p

[Random Citizen]

People on Craig's List are really mad at Ohio
 
 Dayum.

[thirsty moore]

I love it when people start dropping the Nazi Germany comparisons.  I also love it when they quote dead presidents.
 
 

Originally posted by Random Citizen:
  People on Craig's List are really mad at Ohio

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Wow, these people make my rants look tame by comparison
 
 http://cleveland.craigslist.org/rnr/47888254.html

[thirsty moore]

I was going to congratulate you on taking the high road yesterday by not posting any deragatory comments about Elizabeth Edwards.  Of course, you blow a load anytime anyone mentions North Carolina so you were probably too busy cleaning up in order to think of an insult for her    
 
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Wow, these people make my rants look tame by comparison