I heard that New Order were great at Merriweather(or wherever it was) many years later but I missed that one. All depends when you catch them, it seems. I've heard a lot about the same problems with Primal Scream. Both bands put out great records but too often suck live, mostly because they can't control their substance intake. Heard the same report from London a couple years ago when Bobby Gillespe came out onstage to play Rock The Shack with New Order after Get Ready was released. Supposedly, Bobby was completely trashed, along with the others, and the show sucked it.