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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1140 on: July 16, 2007, 12:54:00 pm »
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  http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=262627  
 
 Billy can be one very unlikable fellow.
Are you sure this is real? Another place passed this off as an "inventive album review."

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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1141 on: July 16, 2007, 01:08:00 pm »
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Originally posted by chaz:
   http://www.thestranger.com/seattle/Content?oid=262627  
 
 Billy can be one very unlikable fellow.
Are you sure this is real? Another place passed this off as an "inventive album review." [/b]
Don't know....got the link from RollingStone.com.

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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1142 on: July 16, 2007, 01:13:00 pm »
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  Don't know....got the link from RollingStone.com.
From looking at that, I think RollingStone's selective "quoting" of Billy Corgan's name in their blurb is an indication that he is not the actual writer of that open-letter. I mean, Corgan's bat-shit insane, but only rarely has he ever dropped a line as pretentious as any of that letter, and never has he produced such consistant nut-job material throughout an interview/letter/blog.

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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1143 on: July 16, 2007, 01:15:00 pm »
could someone post/copy the contents of the article?  thestranger.com is blocked here at work.
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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1144 on: July 16, 2007, 01:15:00 pm »
It's fake.  And yes, it was an album review parody-style of his 2005 open letter to the Tribune, I think it was.
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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1145 on: July 16, 2007, 01:19:00 pm »
AN OPEN LETTER FROM BILLY CORGAN
 
 July 10, 2007
 
 My Dear Friends,
 
 Today is the greatest day you've ever known.
 
 Seven years, seven months, and ten days ago, the clock struck midnight, 2000, and the world began turning faster. Back then, I disbanded the Smashing Pumpkins because the new millennium demanded it. A new age needed a new startâ??cleanliness and unity, not the confused, confusing wreck I let the band become.
 
 We were once the most important band in the world, and everyoneâ??me, you, Courtney Loveâ??knew it. The Smashing Pumpkins drew the line between Black Sabbath, the Bee Gees, and the Cure, and that line caught a generation like a leash around a wayward puppy. We founded Alternative Nation, and the kids and advertisers flocked around. But because the band had become bloated, overbearing, headstrong, because it grew beyond my control, it had to die. I killed it before it killed me.
 
 And now, after all those years of self-imposed obscurity, of forced poetry, of side projects mired in mediocrity and too many guitarists, I bring us, together, here, to the corner of Future Avenue and Now Street. This is our moment! This is our day! This is Zeitgeist! (That's "Spirit of the Age" in German. Trust me: I've read Hegel.)
 
 This band has always been the headlight on the barreling locomotive of modern youth; with a title like Zeitgeist, nobody can argue. I brought back original Pumpkins drummer Jimmy Chamberlainâ??recovered and reverent of yours truly, he's the epitome of a new leaf turned overâ??plus another chick bassist and some new guitar guy. Zeitgeist (Say it! It feels good!) arrives this week, in four different forms: The Best Buy version is different from the Target version is different from the iTunes version, which is different from everyone else's version. Most zeits would've settled for a single geist, but ours demands more marketing strategies, so I offer it four.
 
 As for the music, the critics won't get it. They never have. My old fansâ??the ones whose lives were changed by Gish and Siamese Dreamâ??won't get it. They will complain that the sound is too dense, too severe, too, yes, overbearing. But the New Generation is the one I'm speaking to, the one that needs to know that My Chemical Romance and Panic! At the
 
 Disco couldn't exist without me. Whether they want to know doesn't matter. This Zeitgeist is not consensualâ??it's here, whether you understand it or not.
 
 Several weeks ago, I released "Tarantula" to prime the public for the coming onslaught. The song is the sound of one ego exploding (mine), the sound of an entire album in just one song. You'll like it because it has the same skyrocketing guitar riff as "Cherub Rock," and you liked "Cherub Rock" back in 1993. You still like it, because it is one of the best songs ever recorded. But now, instead of one guitar playing one riff, there are moreâ??way moreâ??guitars. And more riffs. It's awesome, in the original sense of the word. It might scare you.
 
 Fear is the effect I'm going for. Fear and exhaustion. But "Tarantula" is not the scariest or most exhausting song on the album. That honor goes to "United States"â??a triumphant teenage anthem that sounds like the closing solo of "War Pigs," refracted and stretched into nine minutes. Remember, I was subtle once: "Drown," from the Singles soundtrack, was haunting in its minimal, dissonant beauty. But the Zeitgeist has no time for subtlety, friends, and neither do you. Hence song titles like "United States" and "For God and Country" and "Pomp and Circumstance." Even more than you need more guitars, you need more meaning. And I bring it to you:
 
 Dulcet tones whisper fast
 
 Refuse your yearns, renounce the past
 
 Rouse me soon, the end draws nigh
 
 Whose side are you on
 
 Your blood you cannot buy.
 
 Revolution!
 
 Revolution!
 
 Revolution!
 
 Yes! Zeitgeisty!
 
 Every revolution needs a counterpoint, and that would be "Bring the Light," the one song with a discernable, singable hook, the one song that's remotely accessible. It's got a melody that burns with the same adolescent struggle as those Siamese Dream days. Naturally, it stands out: Hooks and singability are not really the zeitgeist. At least not this Zeitgeist.
 
 Here is what you must understand: Nothing has changed since 1999, except my budget. And Pro Tools. I am still the same alt-rock messiah I was. You are still my teenage flock.
 
 Trust me.
 
 Your zero,
 Billy Corgan
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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1146 on: July 16, 2007, 01:36:00 pm »
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  It's fake.  And yes, it was an album review parody-style of his 2005 open letter to the Tribune, I think it was.
Great satire then.

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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1147 on: July 16, 2007, 02:04:00 pm »
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  AN OPEN LETTER FROM BILLY CORGAN
 
 Here is what you must understand: Nothing has changed since 1999, except my budget. And Pro Tools.
 
That's really funny.  That entertained me more than anything the Smashing Pumpkins have ever done.
 
 Brian

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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1148 on: July 16, 2007, 02:12:00 pm »
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Originally posted by vansmack:
  AN OPEN LETTER FROM BILLY CORGAN
 
 July 10, 2007
 
 My Dear Friends,
 
 Today is the greatest day you've ever known.
 
 Seven years, seven months, and ten days ago, the clock struck midnight, 2000, and the world began turning faster. Back then, I disbanded the Smashing Pumpkins because the new millennium demanded it. A new age needed a new startâ??cleanliness and unity, not the confused, confusing wreck I let the band become.
 
 We were once the most important band in the world, and everyoneâ??me, you, Courtney Loveâ??knew it. The Smashing Pumpkins drew the line between Black Sabbath, the Bee Gees, and the Cure, and that line caught a generation like a leash around a wayward puppy. We founded Alternative Nation, and the kids and advertisers flocked around. But because the band had become bloated, overbearing, headstrong, because it grew beyond my control, it had to die. I killed it before it killed me.
 
 And now, after all those years of self-imposed obscurity, of forced poetry, of side projects mired in mediocrity and too many guitarists, I bring us, together, here, to the corner of Future Avenue and Now Street. This is our moment! This is our day! This is Zeitgeist! (That's "Spirit of the Age" in German. Trust me: I've read Hegel.)
 
 This band has always been the headlight on the barreling locomotive of modern youth; with a title like Zeitgeist, nobody can argue. I brought back original Pumpkins drummer Jimmy Chamberlainâ??recovered and reverent of yours truly, he's the epitome of a new leaf turned overâ??plus another chick bassist and some new guitar guy. Zeitgeist (Say it! It feels good!) arrives this week, in four different forms: The Best Buy version is different from the Target version is different from the iTunes version, which is different from everyone else's version. Most zeits would've settled for a single geist, but ours demands more marketing strategies, so I offer it four.
 
 As for the music, the critics won't get it. They never have. My old fansâ??the ones whose lives were changed by Gish and Siamese Dreamâ??won't get it. They will complain that the sound is too dense, too severe, too, yes, overbearing. But the New Generation is the one I'm speaking to, the one that needs to know that My Chemical Romance and Panic! At the
 
 Disco couldn't exist without me. Whether they want to know doesn't matter. This Zeitgeist is not consensualâ??it's here, whether you understand it or not.
 
 Several weeks ago, I released "Tarantula" to prime the public for the coming onslaught. The song is the sound of one ego exploding (mine), the sound of an entire album in just one song. You'll like it because it has the same skyrocketing guitar riff as "Cherub Rock," and you liked "Cherub Rock" back in 1993. You still like it, because it is one of the best songs ever recorded. But now, instead of one guitar playing one riff, there are moreâ??way moreâ??guitars. And more riffs. It's awesome, in the original sense of the word. It might scare you.
 
 Fear is the effect I'm going for. Fear and exhaustion. But "Tarantula" is not the scariest or most exhausting song on the album. That honor goes to "United States"â??a triumphant teenage anthem that sounds like the closing solo of "War Pigs," refracted and stretched into nine minutes. Remember, I was subtle once: "Drown," from the Singles soundtrack, was haunting in its minimal, dissonant beauty. But the Zeitgeist has no time for subtlety, friends, and neither do you. Hence song titles like "United States" and "For God and Country" and "Pomp and Circumstance." Even more than you need more guitars, you need more meaning. And I bring it to you:
 
 Dulcet tones whisper fast
 
 Refuse your yearns, renounce the past
 
 Rouse me soon, the end draws nigh
 
 Whose side are you on
 
 Your blood you cannot buy.
 
 Revolution!
 
 Revolution!
 
 Revolution!
 
 Yes! Zeitgeisty!
 
 Every revolution needs a counterpoint, and that would be "Bring the Light," the one song with a discernable, singable hook, the one song that's remotely accessible. It's got a melody that burns with the same adolescent struggle as those Siamese Dream days. Naturally, it stands out: Hooks and singability are not really the zeitgeist. At least not this Zeitgeist.
 
 Here is what you must understand: Nothing has changed since 1999, except my budget. And Pro Tools. I am still the same alt-rock messiah I was. You are still my teenage flock.
 
 Trust me.
 
 Your zero,
 Billy Corgan
The minute a reviewer in a reputable magazine spells a band member's name incorrectly (Jimmy CHAMBERLIN) is the minute I discount anything else that they have to say.  It doesn't take long to fact check the spelling of a name.

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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1149 on: July 16, 2007, 02:33:00 pm »
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  The minute a reviewer in a reputable magazine spells a band member's name incorrectly (Jimmy CHAMBERLIN) is the minute I discount anything else that they have to say.  It doesn't take long to fact check the spelling of a name.
To be fair, the band themselves spelled it wrong in the liner notes for Gish so I can't really bitch when other people make this, suprisingly common, error.

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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1150 on: July 16, 2007, 02:35:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
   
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Originally posted by callat703:
  The minute a reviewer in a reputable magazine spells a band member's name incorrectly (Jimmy CHAMBERLIN) is the minute I discount anything else that they have to say.  It doesn't take long to fact check the spelling of a name.
To be fair, the band themselves spelled it wrong in the liner notes for Gish so I can't really bitch when other people make this, suprisingly common, error. [/b]
fanboy.
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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1151 on: July 16, 2007, 02:35:00 pm »
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
  fanboy.
Admittedly.   :(

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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1152 on: July 16, 2007, 02:38:00 pm »
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
  fanboy.
Admittedly.     :(   [/b]
Impressive.  I didn't know that piece of trivia.
 
 Still doesn't excuse lazy journalism though.  All you've got to do is type "Jimmy Chamberlain" into Google to get the correct spelling.

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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1153 on: July 16, 2007, 02:40:00 pm »
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
  fanboy.
Admittedly.    :(  [/b]
it's ok. as a result you ended up in nearly every photostream i found on flickr. plus, i'm still laughing at nkotb's time cop comparison to your shirt-on-shirt action.
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Re: Rumor: Smashing Pumpkins at 9:30 Club July 10th
« Reply #1154 on: July 16, 2007, 02:43:00 pm »
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Originally posted by callat703:
   
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Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
     
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Originally posted by miss pretentious:
  fanboy.
Admittedly.      :(    [/b]
Impressive.  I didn't know that piece of trivia.
 
 Still doesn't excuse lazy journalism though.  All you've got to do is type "Jimmy Chamberlain" into Google to get the correct spelling. [/b]
lazy journalism </3
 in fact, there is a term for something that bad. it's called a GFE. 'gross factual error,' which typically applies to names, dates and other easily accessible facts. [/end nerd rant]
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