Author Topic: My Morning Jacket - Z  (Read 3168 times)

grotty

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My Morning Jacket - Z
« on: November 11, 2005, 11:42:00 am »
for a record garnering such good reviews, I'm seriously underwhelmed.
 
 I wish new music came with an advisory sticker:
 Warning - May Be Too Cute For Some Listening Audiences

joz

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Re: My Morning Jacket - Z
« Reply #1 on: November 11, 2005, 11:45:00 am »
ditto. i'm really disappointed with their new direction.

BookerT

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« Reply #2 on: November 11, 2005, 11:49:00 am »
me three. i don't at all begrudge them for wanting to try new things or expand their audience, but i've basically lost interest.

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« Reply #3 on: November 11, 2005, 12:51:00 pm »
Me four.

TheNomad

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Re: My Morning Jacket - Z
« Reply #4 on: November 11, 2005, 01:00:00 pm »
Agreed.
 
 A band that tried this the last couple of years and has now gone the other way, Marah, put out a great new album - much more grittier than their previous attempts to move to pop.  Check it out.
 
 I imagine MMJ will realize the mistake and do the same.

grotty

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« Reply #5 on: November 11, 2005, 01:15:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Stuart Ransom Miller:
  Agreed.
 
 A band that tried this the last couple of years and has now gone the other way, Marah, put out a great new album - much more grittier than their previous attempts to move to pop.  Check it out.
 
 
I'm seeing Marah tomorrow night - Love these guys.
 One of the best RnR shows you can see.
 "Demon of White Sadness" is a nice return to form:
  http://www.myspace.com/marahusa
 
 I've raved about Marah on here before. I like what Nick Hornby said after seeing them in a small U.K. pub:
 
 "Five or six years ago, a friend in Philly introduced me to a local band called Marah. Their first album had just come out, on an indie label, and it sounded great to me, like the Pogues reimagined by the E Street Band, full of fire and tunes, and soul and banjos. There was a buzz about it...and it looked like they were off and away. Writing this down, I can suddenly see the reason why it didn't happen for them, or at least, why it hasn't happened yet. The band is young, but their referents, the music they love, is getting on a bit, and in an attempt to address this problem, they attempted a noisy modern rock album. They succeeded in  alienation, but not in finding a new audience, so they have been forced to retreat and retrench and rethink. At the end of the Fiddler's Elbow show they passed a hat around, which gives you some indication of the level of retrenchment going on. They'll be OK. Their next album will be spectacular, and they'll sell out Madison Square Garden, and you'll all be boasting that you read a column by a guy who saw them in the Fiddler's Elbow. Anyway, the two shows I saw that week were spectacular, as good as anything, I've seen with the possible exception of the Clash in '79, Prince in '85 and Springsteen on the River tour. Dave and Serge, the two brothers who are to Marah what the Gallaghers are to Oasis, played the Fiddler's Elbow as if it were Giants Stadium, and even though it was acoustic, they just about blew the place up."


grotty

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Re: My Morning Jacket - Z
« Reply #7 on: November 11, 2005, 03:12:00 pm »
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Originally posted by amnesiac:
  ". . .it's My Morning Jacket's Achtung Baby or their Kid A, simultaneously building on and breaking from their past. . ."
Blasphemer
 The comparison is apt only in that it is a significant departure in style.
 You can "build" and "break", but you should also BETTER. I don't hear an improvement though. I did immediately with each of the records mentioned above.

BookerT

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Re: My Morning Jacket - Z
« Reply #8 on: November 11, 2005, 03:14:00 pm »
does rolling stone have any credibility when it comes to taste anymore? i still read it sometimes and there are occasional good articles, but i think its time as a taste-maker has long passed.

grotty

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« Reply #9 on: November 11, 2005, 03:18:00 pm »
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Originally posted by BookerT:
  does rolling stone have any credibility when it comes to taste anymore? i still read it sometimes and there are occasional good articles, but i think its time as a taste-maker has long passed.
Rolling Stone gave the Mick Jagger (created using the Santana duet blueprint) solo record 5 stars!!  :eek:  
 
 Mick & Jann must great pals. Have you heard that thing?!

Arlette

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Re: My Morning Jacket - Z
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2005, 08:24:00 pm »
:(  
 
 I love the new album.  Definitely in my Top 5 of '05 and with a month to go in the year, probably won't be any movement there.
 
 The first 3 songs blow me away, I just program them on Repeat in the iPod or iTunes at work and I listen over and over again (as the word Repeat might indicate....d'oh.)  
 
 I heart Z.

britton

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Re: My Morning Jacket - Z
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2005, 10:33:00 pm »
definitely been falsely sold by the critics.  it's an almost intentional stretch in some preachy & weird new direction. after 'it still moves' i thought mmj has just about staked itself as a heavy roots rock band.  i don't begrudge their style changes, it just seems weak and unnatural.

HoyaSaxa03

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« Reply #12 on: November 12, 2005, 02:26:00 pm »
wow, i couldn't disagree more, i think it's a fantastic album start-to-finish ... their previous albums were plagued by having a few great tracks ("one big holiday", "lowdown", "just because i do", etc) and a lot of filler ... "Z" feels like a cohesive album, and a damn good one at that
(o|o)

HoyaSaxa03

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Re: My Morning Jacket - Z
« Reply #13 on: November 12, 2005, 02:29:00 pm »
an additional thought ... the best songs off their previous 3 albums are probably better than the best song on this one (clearly "off the record"), but this album is just so much better as a whole than their previous releases
(o|o)

grotty

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Re: My Morning Jacket - Z
« Reply #14 on: November 14, 2005, 11:54:00 am »
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Originally posted by HoyaParanoia:
  an additional thought ... the best songs off their previous 3 albums are probably better than the best song on this one (clearly "off the record"), but this album is just so much better as a whole than their previous releases
Disagreement is good, but it's interesting that you cite "Off The Record" as the best song on Z.
 
 To me, it's a perfect example of what's wrong with the cd and what I don't like.
 
 It's a schizophrenic song on a schizo record.
 
 It starts off with a terrific MMJ guitar riff - sounds like it could be a MMJ best. Then it quickly devolves into something else entirely. Something precious. With a chorus that makes me cringe everytime I hear it. It sounds like the Knack doing show tunes.
 
 THEN after that, the guitar riff comes back and segues into 2 1/2 minutes of guitar/keyboard noodling that is an entirely different song.
 
 Very odd. But to me - odd doesn't necessarily = good.
 
 I know what they were shooting for here. But I think they sacrificed a lot to get there.
 
 Pick up the Wolf Parade record to hear quirky songs still retain an edge. You don't need to delve into Fiery Furnaces territory just to prove you are creative.
 
   :D  
 
 Just my opinions. Glad some are enjoying it tho. No more rants about this from me.