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« Reply #45 on: September 01, 2004, 09:40:00 am »
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  She's no stupider looking then the moronic protesters outside the convention. I say, run them all over!!!!!!!!!
silly protesters!  why cant they just conform to the government?!  jeepers.

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« Reply #46 on: September 01, 2004, 09:56:00 am »
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Originally posted by sonickteam2:
   
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Originally posted by Rob_Gee:
  She's no stupider looking then the moronic protesters outside the convention. I say, run them all over!!!!!!!!!
silly protesters!  why cant they just conform to the government?!  jeepers. [/b]
Or get a job, then they wouldnt be complaining the rich are too rich. They might actually earn a paycheck and think they are rich themselves. What a concept.    :p

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« Reply #47 on: September 01, 2004, 11:48:00 am »
I support Bush for the same reason many support Kerry.  Namely, that I find him better than the alternative.  
 
 Would I rather be voting for a more moderate (and brighter) member of the party such as McCain or Schwarzenegger (2008  :D  )?  Absolutely.  But those dudes aren't on the ballot.
 
 
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  I can't believe how someone as bright as you can support GW Bush. I'm not one to dismiss all Republicans in one fell swoop, some Republicans would probably make good presidents. I just don't see how anyone can support the current one.
 

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« Reply #48 on: September 01, 2004, 12:11:00 pm »
surely somebody must have seen george w. doing coke off a naked interns bottom...
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« Reply #49 on: September 02, 2004, 01:11:00 am »
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  I love how George W. Bush can be cast simultaneously (and often by the same person) as both a complete moron and a genius capable of singlehandedly fooling the world into believing Hussein had WMDs.
Don't think he fooled the world on that one.  Just the stupid people.  And it wasn't necessary fooling anyone, just a way to take what the world was feeling at the time, and use that to clean up his Daddy's mess instead of finding the person responsible for 9/11.  That guy that is still out there known as bin Laden.

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« Reply #50 on: September 02, 2004, 01:12:00 am »
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Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  I support Bush for the same reason many support Kerry.  Namely, that I find him better than the alternative.  
 
 Would I rather be voting for a more moderate (and brighter) member of the party such as McCain or Schwarzenegger (2008   :D   )?  Absolutely.  But those dudes aren't on the ballot.
 
   
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  I can't believe how someone as bright as you can support GW Bush. I'm not one to dismiss all Republicans in one fell swoop, some Republicans would probably make good presidents. I just don't see how anyone can support the current one.
 
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I would support McCain.  Schwarzengger is a flash in the pan, his English is worse than Bush.  Let alone, he has no hopes of becoming President.  The Constitution doesn't allow that, and that part won't change.

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« Reply #51 on: September 02, 2004, 09:07:00 am »
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 Don't think he fooled the world on that one.  Just the stupid people.
"I will be voting to give the President of the United States the authority to use force â?? if necessary â?? to disarm Saddam Hussein because I believe that a deadly arsenal of weapons of mass destruction in his hands is a real and grave threat to our security."
 Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Oct. 9, 2002.
 
 "We are in possession of what I think to be compelling evidence that Saddam Hussein has, and has had for a number of years, a developing capacity for the production and storage of weapons of mass destruction. "[W]ithout question, we need to disarm Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal, murderous dictator, leading an oppressive regime ... He presents a particularly grievous threat because he is so consistently prone to miscalculation. And now he has continued deceit and his consistent grasp for weapons of mass destruction ... So the threat of Saddam Hussein with weapons of mass destruction is real ...
 Sen. John F. Kerry (D, MA), Jan. 23. 2003.
 
 "There is no doubt that . Saddam Hussein has reinvigorated his weapons programs. Reports indicate that biological, chemical and nuclear programs continue apace and may be back to pre-Gulf War status. In addition, Saddam continues to redefine delivery systems and is doubtless using the cover of a licit missile program to develop longer-range missiles that will threaten the United States and our allies."
 Letter to President Bush, Signed by Sen. Bob Graham (D, FL,) and others, Dec, 5, 2001.
 
 "We begin with the common belief that Saddam Hussein is a tyrant and a threat to the peace and stability of the region. He has ignored the mandate of the United Nations and is building weapons of mass destruction and the means of delivering them."
 Sen. Carl Levin (d, MI), Sept. 19, 2002.
 
 "We know that he has stored secret supplies of biological and chemical weapons throughout his country."
 Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
 
 "Iraq's search for weapons of mass destruction has proven impossible to deter and we should assume that it will continue for as long as Saddam is in power."
 Al Gore, Sept. 23, 2002.
 
 "We have known for many years that Saddam Hussein is seing and developing weapons of mass destruction."
 Sen. Ted Kennedy (D, MA), Sept. 27, 2002.
 
 "The last UN weapons inspectors left Iraq in October1998. We are confident that Saddam Hussein retains some stockpiles of chemical and biological weapons, and that he has since embarked on a crash course to build up his chemical and biological warfare capabilities. Intelligence reports indicate that he is seeking nuclear weapons..."
 Sen. Robert Byrd (D, WV), Oct. 3, 2002.
 
 "One way or the other, we are determined to deny Iraq the capacity to develop weapons of mass destruction and the missiles to deliver them. That is our bottom line."
 President Clinton, Feb. 4, 1998.
 
 "If Saddam rejects peace and we have to use force, our purpose is clear. We want to seriously diminish the threat posed by Iraq's weapons of mass destruction program."
 President Clinton, Feb. 17, 1998.
 
 "Iraq is a long way from [here], but what happens there matters a great deal here. For the risks that the leaders of a rogue state will use nuclear, chemical or biological weapons against us or our allies is the greatest security threat we face."
 Madeline Albright, Feb 18, 1998.
 
 "He will use those weapons of mass destruction again, as he has ten times since 1983."
 Sandy Berger, Clinton National Security Adviser, Feb, 18, 1998
 
 "[W]e urge you, after consulting with Congress, and consistent with the U.S. Constitution and laws, to take necessary actions (including, if appropriate, air and missile strikes on suspect Iraqi sites) to respond effectively to the threat posed by Iraq's refusal to end its weapons of mass destruction programs."
 Letter to President Clinton, signed by Sens. Carl Levin, Tom Daschle, John Kerry, and others Oct. 9, 1998.
 
 "Saddam Hussein has been engaged in the development of weapons of mass destruction technology which is a threat to countries in the region and he has made a mockery of the weapons inspection process."
 Rep. Nancy Pelosi (D, CA), Dec. 16, 1998.
 
 "Hussein has ... chosen to spend his money on building weapons of mass destruction and palaces for his cronies."
 Madeline Albright, Clinton Secretary of State, Nov. 10, 1999.
 
 "There is unmistakable evidence that Saddam Hussein is working aggressively to develop nuclear weapons and will likely have nuclear weapons within the next five years . We also should remember we have alway s underestimated the progress Saddam has made in development of weapons of mass destruction."
 Sen. Jay Rockerfeller (D, WV), Oct 10, 2002,
 
 "He has systematically violated, over the course of the past 11 years, every significant UN resolution that has demanded that he disarm and destroy his chemical and biological weapons, and any nuclear capacity. This he has refused to do."
 Rep. Henry Waxman (D, CA), Oct. 10, 2002.
 
 "In the four years since the inspectors left, intelligence reports show that Saddam Hussein has worked to rebuild his chemical and biological weapons stock, his missile delivery capability, and his nuclear program. He has also given aid, comfort, and sanctuary to terrorists, including al Qaeda members. It is clear, however, that if left unchecked, Saddam Hussein will continue to increase his capacity to wage biological and chemical warfare, and will keep trying to develop nuclear weapons."
 Sen. Hillary Clinton (D, NY), Oct 10, 2002
 
 "How close is the peril of Iraqi WMD? Today, or at most within a few months, Iraq could launch missile attacks with chemical or biological weapons against its neighbors (albeit attacks that would be ragged, inaccurate, and limited in size). Within four or five years it could have the capability to threaten most of the Middle East and parts of Europe with missiles armed with nuclear weapons containing fissile material produced indigenouslyâ?? and to threaten U.S. territory with such weapons delivered by nonconventional means, such as commercial shipping containers. If it managed to get its hands on sufficient quantities of already produced fissile material, these threats could arrive much sooner."
 Robert Einhorn, Clinton's assistant secretary of state for nonproliferation, March 2002
 
 U.S. government analysts were not alone in these views. In the late spring of 2002 I participated in a Washington meeting about Iraqi WMD. Those present included nearly twenty former inspectors from the United Nations Special Commission (UNSCOM), the force established in 1991 to oversee the elimination of WMD in Iraq. One of the senior people put a question to the group: Did anyone in the room doubt that Iraq was currently operating a secret centrifuge plant? No one did. Three people added that they believed Iraq was also operating a secret calutron plant (a facility for separating uranium isotopes).
 
 Other nations' intelligence services were similarly aligned with U.S. views. Somewhat remarkably, given how adamantly Germany would oppose the war, the German Federal Intelligence Service held the bleakest view of all, arguing that Iraq might be able to build a nuclear weapon within three years. Israel, Russia, Britain, China, and even France held positions similar to that of the United States; France's President Jacques Chirac told Time magazine last February, "There is a problemâ??the probable possession of weapons of mass destruction by an uncontrollable country, Iraq. The international community is right ... in having decided Iraq should be disarmed." In sum, no one doubted that Iraq had weapons of mass destruction.
 Kenneth M. Pollack, Clinton's National Security Council - Director for Persian Gulf Affairs 1999-2001.

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« Reply #52 on: September 02, 2004, 09:13:00 am »
I'm sure the idiots around here will say that they were misquoated.   :roll:

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« Reply #53 on: September 02, 2004, 09:18:00 am »
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  I'm sure the idiots around here will say that they were misquoated.    :roll:  
Not necessarily misquoted, but misled by bad intelligence.

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« Reply #54 on: September 02, 2004, 09:18:00 am »
GGW, I don't necessarily agree with you, but there is no doubt that you are the man.
 
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 But some of these quotes were well before the Bush years.  If the same faulty intellegence that lead Clinton to say those things led Bush to do the same, can we blame either of them?  If anything, the heinous part of the Bush administration's plan was them stressing the link to 9/11.

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« Reply #55 on: September 02, 2004, 09:26:00 am »
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Originally posted by nkotbie:
  GGW, I don't necessarily agree with you, but there is no doubt that you are the man.
 
 
Indeed...I tangled with GGW once....never again!
 
 But GGW, I think yer wrong!!  ;)

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« Reply #56 on: September 02, 2004, 09:34:00 am »
you know what the current political situation in america is really starting to making me feel like i'm back in highschool where the bullies went around beating up, taunting, name calling and teasing those who had different opinions, clothes, etc.
 
 which is why we need a good strong principal as the next president.  not the ceo of the republican party or a demonized liberal...
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« Reply #57 on: September 02, 2004, 09:39:00 am »
the point should be made that not everyone believe that there were wmd in the iraq, you can find quotes on either side of the fence.  and hussein not bush should be given the real credit for fooling the world.
 
 bush decided that it was taking to long for the un process of inspections to finish.
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« Reply #58 on: September 02, 2004, 09:45:00 am »
Joe Clark for President!
 
 
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  you know what the current political situation in america is really starting to making me feel like i'm back in highschool where the bullies went around beating up, taunting, name calling and teasing those who had different opinions, clothes, etc.
 
 which is why we need a good strong principal as the next president.  not the ceo of the republican party or a demonized liberal...

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« Reply #59 on: September 02, 2004, 09:47:00 am »
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Originally posted by kosmo vinyl:
  you know what the current political situation in america is really starting to making me feel like i'm back in highschool where the bullies went around beating up, taunting, name calling and teasing those who had different opinions, clothes, etc.
 
 
Well put...People who will vote Dem are often characterized as un-american in some way.  At least that's how it seems to me sometimes.