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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #30 on: June 11, 2003, 12:46:00 pm »
I don't think Kurt Cobain had mainstream success and record sales as his primary goal when he wrote "Smells Like Teen Spirit". Certainly no more than Husker Du, The Replacements, the Pixies, or whoever else preceded them.
 
 
 Whatever you think of Guns and Roses, I think it's sort of silly to lunp them in with hair metal bands. I'm not the biggest GNR fan in the world, but I think they themselves started a musical move away from hair metal fluff.
 
   
 
    Of "Smells Like Teen Spirit," Guns N' Roses bassist Duff McKagan said: "That was really a breakthrough for a great scene that had been going on for a long time up in Seattle. And it was kind of another victory, I think, for a misunderstood music, you know. The dam broke when 'Teen Spirit' came out."

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #31 on: June 11, 2003, 12:47:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  well i think axl not nirvana brought g n' r down...
It's a shame Axl didn't blow his own brains out as well.

Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #32 on: June 11, 2003, 12:48:00 pm »
Why? What harm is he doing to any of us these days?
 
 
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  well i think axl not nirvana brought g n' r down...
It's a shame Axl didn't blow his own brains out as well. [/b]

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #33 on: June 11, 2003, 12:56:00 pm »
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 Why? What harm is he doing to any of us these days?
 
 
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 He's a wanker....reason enough for me. And I bet the girl he anally raped and urinated on probably agrees with me.

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #34 on: June 11, 2003, 12:59:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Ok, then what would be your top 5 songs post 1978 and pre-Nirvana?
 
   
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Sure, Nirvana may have brought people away from hair bands, but ultimately I think that they failed to produce anything that had not been done, and done better, before. [/b]
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Briefly, and without checking dates (I think TV might have been 1977)
 
 1. Marquee Moon - TV
 2. What do I get - Buzzcocks
 3. In My Eyes - Minor Threat
 4. Miserable Lie - The Smiths
 5. China Girl - Bowie
 
 I don't mean to imply that any of these songs would have been on VH1's number one list, but Nirvana as a whole I feel is horribly overrated.

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #35 on: June 11, 2003, 01:04:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 
 Whatever you think of Guns and Roses, I think it's sort of silly to lunp them in with hair metal bands. I'm not the biggest GNR fan in the world, but I think they themselves started a musical move away from hair metal fluff.
 
Actually, you're right about GnR doing more to knock out hair metal bands.  I didn't really want to lump them in with those hair bands, it just sort of came out that way though laziness.  
 
 I'm not really arguing against the quality of Smells Like.., it's an important song (whatever that's worth) and VH1 couldn't of put another one up there.
 
 It's just statements like "Nirvana changed the music industry" that get under my skin.  It's the same false, tired old argument that people have to combat the suggestion that Nirvana is an  extremely overated band.

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #36 on: June 11, 2003, 01:15:00 pm »
I gave myself 5 minutes to come up with 5 important songs, post 78 and pre Nirvana.
 
 Here's what I came with.
 
 Heroes - Bowie
 London Calling - The Clash
 Whole of the Moon - The Waterboys
 Pretty in Pink - Psychadelic Furs
 Song for Whoever - The Beautiful South
 
 I know there's no American bands up there, that was not intentional. Remember, I was living in UK up until 85, and I was just seeing what would come to me immediately.

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #37 on: June 11, 2003, 01:28:00 pm »
perhaps there are songs by bands such as
 
 Jam
 Smiths
 Stone Roses
 Happy Mondays
 Blur
 New Order/Joy Division
 The Fall
 Oasis (just for Fico)
 Oh and maybe some rap acts.....
 
 that a lot of people have forgotten
 
 Mankie sheep by the housemartins would have made a much less twee choice than the BS.

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #38 on: June 11, 2003, 01:41:00 pm »
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Originally posted by Andrew WK:
  perhaps there are songs by bands such as
 
 Jam
 Smiths
 Stone Roses
 Happy Mondays
 Blur
 New Order/Joy Division
 The Fall
 Oasis (just for Fico)
 Oh and maybe some rap acts.....
 
 that a lot of people have forgotten
 
 Mankie sheep by the housemartins would have made a much less twee choice than the BS.
I'm sure given more time my list would be a lot different. Those were the first five that came to me.

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #39 on: June 11, 2003, 01:56:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  foo fighter - the lager louts = oasis
That is just plain nuts!  Many bands have Oasis living deep down in their souls, but not Foo Fighters.
 
 We all have guilty pleasures (though I feel no guilt *whatsoever*).

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #40 on: June 11, 2003, 01:58:00 pm »
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Originally posted by kosmo:
  foo fighter - the lager louts = oasis
That is just plain nuts!  Many bands have Oasis living deep down in their souls, but not Foo Fighters.
 
 We all have guilty pleasures (though I feel no guilt *whatsoever*). [/b]
If nothing else, Oasis got British music out of a huge stale, boring hole.

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #41 on: June 11, 2003, 02:45:00 pm »
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Originally posted by mankie:
  If nothing else, you can find an Oasis in my huge stale, boring hole.
thanks, mank, but I, for one, will pass

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #42 on: June 11, 2003, 04:04:00 pm »
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Originally posted by mankie:
 
 
 If nothing else, you can find an Oasis in my huge stale, boring hole.
 
 
thanks, mank,  I, for one, will jump at the chance
 
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You hussy, and recently married too!

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #43 on: June 11, 2003, 04:22:00 pm »
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Originally posted by larkjr:
   
 
 I looked at KROQ's playlist and consider it complete trash.
I wasn't talking about the KROQ playlist of today.  The KROQ playlist today reminds of the trash that was on KROQ before "Smells like Teen Spirit" - there was a huge gap in modern/alternative/new music between the early to mid 80's with The Cure, New Order, Depeche Mode, pre Auchtung U2, the new wave 80's, the Smiths, REM, etc.  Take a look at their top 100 of each year of the 80's and you'll see what I'm talking about.
 
 From 88-91 the popular radio scene was dominated by big hair make-up bands Warrant, White Snake, White Lion, GnR, Poison blah blah blah.
27>34

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Re: Nirvana song named best of past 25 years
« Reply #44 on: June 11, 2003, 11:18:00 pm »
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 If nothing else, Oasis got British music out of a huge stale, boring hole. [/QB]
I would argue that the Stone Roses were the ones that did that?