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Re: question for anyone willing to admit seeing Fall Out Boy
« Reply #15 on: May 10, 2006, 12:33:00 pm »
I remember seeing a news clip of a Priest fan praising Owens (Halford's replacement) as being great because he wasn't a "faggot like Priest."  But I'd be willing to guess those same fans shit their collective leather chaps when the original line-up reunited.
 
 
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  Does anyone think that there's homophobia in rock'n'roll? I'd be curious to hear what you think. I've heard people say things like Natalie Merchant and Michael Stipe's biggest mistake was coming out of the closet. Do Judas Priest fans care about Rob Halford?

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« Reply #16 on: May 10, 2006, 12:57:00 pm »
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 Does anyone think that there's homophobia in rock'n'roll? I'd be curious to hear what you think. I've heard people say things like Natalie Merchant and Michael Stipe's biggest mistake was coming out of the closet. Do Judas Priest fans care about Rob Halford?
I had a friend who was a massive Judas Priest fan.  He said many "real fans" knew about Halford's orientation long before it was public and largely didn't care.  As he put it when the news came out - "look at the guy.  Is it really such a surprise?"
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Re: question for anyone willing to admit seeing Fall Out Boy
« Reply #17 on: May 10, 2006, 01:12:00 pm »
When did Natalie Merchant "come out"? And what did she "come out" as? A mediocre folksinger?
 
 
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  More parents should take their kids to shows...even if it is crap like Fall Out Boy. Maybe they should be the Fall OUT Boys? But then again, I'd rather have all the guys in Slayer come out of the closet. God, that would be so cool.
 
 Does anyone think that there's homophobia in rock'n'roll? I'd be curious to hear what you think. I've heard people say things like Natalie Merchant and Michael Stipe's biggest mistake was coming out of the closet. Do Judas Priest fans care about Rob Halford?

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Re: question for anyone willing to admit seeing Fall Out Boy
« Reply #18 on: May 10, 2006, 01:24:00 pm »
I thought it's been long known she was a lesbian...I don't think she's ever really denied it, she just didn't do a whole big media thing.

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Re: question for anyone willing to admit seeing Fall Out Boy
« Reply #19 on: May 10, 2006, 01:28:00 pm »
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  It's a good think she's never heard of Billy Bragg then huh...
or Pansy Divison. [/b]
Gayest band ever.  But awesome.

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« Reply #20 on: May 10, 2006, 01:47:00 pm »
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  I thought it's been long known she was a lesbian...I don't think she's ever really denied it, she just didn't do a whole big media thing.
If I'm not mistaken she used to the drummer in her band and even had a baby with him...just like Sarah McLachlan...

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« Reply #21 on: May 10, 2006, 01:55:00 pm »
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  I thought it's been long known she was a lesbian...I don't think she's ever really denied it, she just didn't do a whole big media thing.
If I'm not mistaken she used to the drummer in her band and even had a baby with him...just like Sarah McLachlan... [/b]
she had a baby just like Sarah McLachlan?

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Re: question for anyone willing to admit seeing Fall Out Boy
« Reply #22 on: May 10, 2006, 02:00:00 pm »
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  Does anyone think that there's homophobia in rock'n'roll? I'd be curious to hear what you think.
 
Not in the "I hate fags" sense, but it's still seen as the kiss of death to someone's image.  Not so much in pop or indie music, but in regular rock and roll - sure.  It rarely helps your career to be out, so people don't even want to be perceived as being gay.  I don't think I'd really call that homophobic, but being out isn't exactly encouraged.
 
 
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I've heard people say things like Natalie Merchant and Michael Stipe's biggest mistake was coming out of the closet.
Stipe's biggest mistake was writing several albums-worth of boring songs.  I've been following REM for over 20 years now and I don't think I've ever heard anything negative regarding Stipe's sexuality.  His songwriting on the other hand...
 
 
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Do Judas Priest fans care about Rob Halford?
For the most part, I'd guess no.  He was legendary, then "retired" before coming out.  It's hard to go back and say his earlier stuff sucked, years after-the-fact.  I'll bet it would have been different had he come out while JP was still going strong though.  It probably would have been ok to still like JP, but it wouldn't have been cool to REALLY like them or praise them the way people used to.   Now their original fans are older and probably don't care much about stuff like that anymore.

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« Reply #23 on: May 10, 2006, 02:04:00 pm »
(see last line)
 
 http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Natalie_Merchant
 
 Natalie Anne Merchant (born October 26, 1963 in Jamestown, New York, USA) is a versatile professional musician.
 
 Merchant co-founded and fronted the successful band 10,000 Maniacs in 1981 (see 1981 in music), but left the band in 1993 (see 1993 in music) commencing a successful solo career. (She has been referred to as "the Poet Laureate of pop", or "the Emily Dickinson of pop".) Her debut solo album Tigerlily (1995) had three top-40 singles: "Carnival", "Jealousy", and "Wonder". In 1997, she first performed "Planctus," a song for voice and piano written for her by Philip Glass. In 1998, Merchant released Ophelia, supported by co-headlining Lilith Fair and the following year released Live in Concert.
 
 In 2001, Merchant released her most critically acclaimed album, Motherland, and went on an extensive tour of North America and Europe. She parted ways with Elektra Records in 2003 and released a folk album of traditional songs called The House Carpenter's Daughter in September of that year on Myth America records; her own label. Merchant plays the piano, has produced and has written almost all of her songs.
 
 Merchant has sung alongside Michael Stipe and David Byrne. She has also collaborated with Billy Bragg a number of times, including the 1998 album Mermaid Avenue. Like Bragg, her work touches on social and political themes and she has been active in raising a number of campaigning issues in both her songs and through the causes to which she lends her name. Her website (that she has kept current) features a links section including one for The Nation, which continues to present some indication of her political relevance.
 
 She is married and has a daughter.

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Re: question for anyone willing to admit seeing Fall Out Boy
« Reply #24 on: May 10, 2006, 02:12:00 pm »
Oh like THAT means anything!!  :)

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Re: question for anyone willing to admit seeing Fall Out Boy
« Reply #25 on: May 10, 2006, 02:54:00 pm »
Yeah, I'm married and have two daughters!
 
 Oh, wait a second....
 
 mmmm la dee dah dee dah nothing to see here move along move along.