Worst Band Ever?

[eltee]

Originally posted by renton007:
  Four pages in and not one mention of The Eagles, what gives?

Or, DMB. But, I'm playing fair.

[sweetcell]

saying zep is a rip-off of other blues artists is to ignore the history of blues - every bluesman borrowed from other bluesmen.  in the words of jimmy page, the marks of a good bluesman is to "make it your own".  did zep use a phrase from here and lyrics from there?  yup, just like countless blues acts before them.  did anyone sound like zep, at the time?  no, their style of electric blues was unique.  
 
 

Originally posted by wanderlust featuring j. marshmallow:
  Did you laugh hard when you first saw that picture? LOLcatz rule.

i, like, totally LOL'ed.

[xneverwherex]

Originally posted by nkotb:
  You know, the good thing about music is that its SUBJECTIVE.  There's no formula for what's good and what's not.
 
 I definitely think Brian's out of his mind to list those 5 songs as better than anything the Beatles, etc. released.  But it's music.  In the end, who gives a shit what he likes?  Are we that combative that we need him to fall in the ranks with the rest of us?
 
 Besides, the only good reason to not like Zepplin (derivative rip-off of the blues) is to over-analyze and over-intellectualize it.  I'm listing to "Dazed and Confused" as I type this, and I really don't care if it's ripping a paycheck out of Robert Johnson's starving great-grand children's hands.  At the end of the day, it just SLAYS.  Isn't that what matters?
 
   

Originally posted by xneverwherex:
 Go take some Music Appreciation courses such as Music 101 (or something with a similar title) and go trace the roots to current day music.

[/b]

dont get me wrong - music is definitely subjective. and ive got no problem with that. besides a lot of stuff i love, half the board hates, and i could care less.
 
 i guess my point is - before you go off slagging all bands pre-80 (or whatever year he chooses), he might want to consider if it werent for these bands, a bunch of these other bands might possibly not exist.
 
 and btw - i think most people should take any sort of music class to better appreciate other types of music. i certainly appreciate classical music and jazz a bit more than i once did.
 
 and i thought the subject was THE WORST BAND EVER! are the beatles that painful to listen to that its even worse than say Creed? hell i cant stand wolfmother (and one of my best friends loves them), but i certainly wouldnt call them the worst band ever.

[kosmo vinyl]

I pledge no allegiance to the Beach Boys... I respect how Brian Wilson's production,  and arrangements influenced people but the songs in general are insipid..
 
 Now I have to completely disagree on the Marc Bolan/ T. Rex front, seeing as he served as a primary influence on UK Punk.  He released more than his fair share of filler, but when he was on it was amazing. Unfortunately, he died right at the time when punk was beginning to take off and I think a revitalized Bolan would have rose back to the ranks of Bowie then.

[beetsnotbeats]

Originally posted by sweetcell:
    did anyone sound like zep, at the time?  no, their style of electric blues was unique.  
 

Well, they were kinda a rip-off of late Yardbirds  

[beetsnotbeats]

Originally posted by kosmo:
  I pledge no allegiance to the Beach Boys... I respect how Brian Wilson's production,  and arrangements influenced people but the songs in general are insipid..

But it was just that skill at arranging, producing and music composition (and a lot of the theory that goes along with that) that elevated rather simple sentiments to the sublime. Deep it ain't but it was for 2 minutes and 45 seconds.

[mdh9857]

My Personal List:
 
 Dave Matthews Band
 Creed
 Incubus

[kosmo vinyl]

Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
   

Originally posted by sweetcell:
    did anyone sound like zep, at the time?  no, their style of electric blues was unique.  
 

Well, they were kinda a rip-off of late Yardbirds      [/b]

John Mayall's group was doing the blues rock thing prior to Led Zep.  His group started the careers of Clapton, Terry Green and Mick Taylor.  Fleetwood Mac was started life as a blues rock band formed around the time Zep did.
 
 as well as what Terry Reid was doing who was Page's first choice for singer for Led Zep and who was unavailable due to already being signed as a solo artist.

[kosmo vinyl]

Originally posted by beetsnotbeats:
   

Originally posted by kosmo:
  I pledge no allegiance to the Beach Boys... I respect how Brian Wilson's production,  and arrangements influenced people but the songs in general are insipid..

But it was just that skill at arranging, producing and music composition (and a lot of the theory that goes along with that) that elevated rather simple sentiments to the sublime. Deep it ain't but it was for 2 minutes and 45 seconds. [/b]

the whole thing is i would rather listen to Paul Revere and The Raiders and Love than the Beach Boys.  many cite "Pet Sounds" as the record they listened as awkward teenagers.  my record of choice  was Cheap Trick's "Live At Budakon"

[vansmack]

Originally posted by TheREALHunter:
  making you watch my video bootleg of them playing the US Festival in '83

BTW - that performance changed my life.  I was 10 and was mesmerized by the bands energy and Bono's showmanship.  For once I felt as though I had found a band that wasn't my parents favorite.  They took us to see The Pretenders, Stevie Nicks and David Bowie and I left the biggest U2 fan on the planet.
 
 If that's a DVD and I could get copy of it, I'd be happy to compensate you.

[Brian_Wallace]

Originally posted by xneverwherex:
  i guess my point is - before you go off slagging all bands pre-80 (or whatever year he chooses), he might want to consider if it werent for these bands, a bunch of these other bands might possibly not exist.  

Originally posted by SirHC:
 All those you mention would not exist if it were not for the prior bands. They are standing on the shoulders of giants. Because something does not connect with you does not make it the worst. You have to give them credit (or at least those bands you mention give them credit) for the trails they blazed.

That damned quote and sentiment!:
 
 "Pigmaei gigantum humeris impositi plusquam ipsi gigantes vident."
 
 Well, I for one disagree with both Isaac Newton and Noel Gallagher.  If you want to spend all your time paying tributes and respects to those who've come before than go right ahead.  There are certain instances where gratitude is due.  
 
 Those who have fought in wars for the sake of country.  Splitting the atom.  Solid state circuitry.  The brassiere.  We should all be thankful for those who have developed those things.  Because of them, I am grateful.
 
 But I'm supposed to pay respects to John Lennon for "Ticket to Ride?"  For what?  The F#m chord?I can't enjoy Queens of the Stone Age without lighting a votive for John Bonham?  Everytime I listen to Radiohead I have to say a prayer for Syd Barrett's soul?  Please....
 
 I always think it's funny that we are forced to pay respects only up to the 60's generation of bands.  Never before that era.  It's a sin to not RESPECT THE ALMIGHTY ROCK OF ZEPPELIN!  But do you ever hear about having to pay respects to the rock of Muddy Waters or Willie Dixon?
 
 Or how about Chuck Berry?  Without Chuck Berry, I think the Beatles, The Rolling Stones and the Beach Boys would all have sounded much different.  But do you ever hear people saying "Chuck Berry, man!  Greatest rock n roller ever!  He's still got it!" like they do with Jagger and Co?  No, because the Stones are a.) baby-boomers b.) white and c.) playing to football stadiums instead of state fairs (like Mr. Berry does these days.)
 
 This whole "respect your elders" thing in rock n roll is a joke.  You're only supposed to respect the elders who have deals with American Express and Starbucks.
 
 Brian

[Venerable Bede]

but you are making judgments based on bands you hate.  while you may equate hate with worst, that correlation simply cannot be made for purposes of this thread.  if we are all here, we have some sort of appreciation for the history of music- to simply dismiss what came before as mere pap is to do a dis-service to their legacy.  
 
 of course there will be influences that will be overlooked compared to others- chuck berry is certainly overlooked precisely because of sentiments that you are expressing.  i certainly do not dismiss his influence on music, especially on the 60s british scene.

[kcjones119]

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 Anyone read this book?  I'm in the middle of it now.  The premise is an interesting one: younger rock critics re-examine "great albums" to support the idea that there is no rock music canon.  Some of the reviews are not that well executed (a lot of "oh yeah, they're not so great *kid wipes snot from nose, takes his ball and goes home*"  I think it's really just DeRogatis trying to get back at Jann Wenner for firing him (Wenner supposedly fired him for writing a negative review, possibly of the 2nd Hootie and the Blowfish album) by tearing apart pompous baby boomer centric lists like this one.  While I don't agree with all the arguments against certain albums in the book (or Brian's above for that matter), I like the idea that there isn't a textbook that you should learn rock music from.  Figure out what you like on your own by listening.  That's most of the fun.

[Mobius]

Quickly looking at that RS list taking out both 'nostaliga' factors and 'anti-baby boomer bias / possible parental issues or general disdain for history and/or one's elders', I think every album in the top 100 is great, other than Sgt. Pepper's which is uneven but has at least 4 classics (haven't heard a few like Hotel Califorina or Tapestry or Blue or Trout Mask Replica in their entirety).
 
 Obviously an RS list has biases and anyone could argue Neutral Milk Hotel is better than Sign O The Times, or whatever, but that doesn't diminish the inherent strength of what's on that list . . . but as Chappelle said, some people think cucumber tastes better than a pickle so ignore history if you want. . . you just might risk looking like an idiot, or repeating it, or whatever.

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by Charlie Nakatestes,Japanese Golfer:
  Where do I begin? Here's five:
 
 White Stripes
 Mountain Goats
 Smashing Pumpkins
 Bright Eyes
 Snow Patrol

Would you even categorize White Stripes as a band? It's a bloke on a guitar, some bird clanging out on a set of drums and taped backing tracks.......no? One step up from Karaoka if you ask me.
 
 Smashing Pumkins aren't a bad band. To me they're Americas Radiohead - an okay band but what the fuck is all the hysteria about?
 
 The worst band I've ever had to suffer through was support band for The Waterboys back in, well, whatever year the big earthquake in CA was, they were called "big bang theory".....crap, just crap..