Author Topic: is george bush listening to us???  (Read 2952 times)

walkonby

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is george bush listening to us???
« on: May 12, 2006, 02:47:00 pm »
first, there were the phone calls.  next, is there the chat rooms?  i like america.  i like apple pie and baseball.

Guiny

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #1 on: May 12, 2006, 04:00:00 pm »
I'm sure you could protest and all of our problems will disappear.....yup.....disappear.

Venerable Bede

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #2 on: May 12, 2006, 04:09:00 pm »
I'm Doing My Inconsequential Part For The Environment
 May 10, 2006 | Issue 42â?¢19
 
 As human beings continue to wreak havoc on the ecosystem, with seemingly no awareness of the long-term effects of our shortsighted actions, we seriously jeopardize the fragile balance of life on this big blue marble we call Spaceship Earth. Now is the time to take steps toward creating a cleaner environment, however insignificant and useless those steps may be. That's why I'm doing my own laughably inconsequential part to end pollution, limit damage to our precious ecosystem, and preserve what remains of our planet's biodiversity for future generations.
 
 Every day, without fail, I meticulously organize my recyclables into five distinct categories, thereby subtracting an eyedropper's worth of garbage from the countless tons of waste that ferment in our landfills. It only takes a few extra minutes, but just think of the impact it totally lacks. I also refuse to use anything but "Earth-friendly" paper productsâ??some of which contain up to 10 percent recycled materials. For me, it's worth shouldering the extra cost, but, unfortunately, only a scant few of us bother to do the same. And growing some of my own organic vegetables in my backyard garden also, to my immense gratification, reduces the use of toxic chemical-based pesticides and herbicides present in corporate farming techniques by as much as 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000001 percent.
 
 These quixotic, Sisyphean efforts are my way of dealing with what is perhaps the most crucial and difficult issue of our time.
 
 Why do I boycott multinational oil and gas corporations that fail to acknowledge and address global-warming issues, resulting in a few less dollars in their swollen coffers? Or participate in demonstrations against local wetland destruction that are attended by as many as a dozen people, before the wetland is eventually drained and cleared for a new Wal-Mart anyway? Why make the effort? Because I care. And I want these feelings to manifest themselves in barely measurable ways.
 
 By using mass transit or riding my bike whenever possible, I may not be able to influence greenhouse-gas emissions standards or reduce mass global addiction to fossil fuels one iota. Nor, by slavishly collecting every banana peel or coffee ground to make my own rich garden compost, will I alter our consumer culture's pathological tendency to devour everything it encounters at an exponentially advancing rate. Restricting my household energy use to non-peak hours does not make me capable of reversing temperature changes in the gulf stream that even now have begun to throw the world's climate out of equilibrium. The question, however, is not "What can't I do?" but rather, "What can I do?"
 
 The answer: next to nothing.
 
 At the very least, I know with absolute certainty that I have done everything I can to nurture and protect the environment, through genuinely well-intentioned albeit minuscule actions, tragically destined to have absolutely no substantive effect. For I sleep better at night knowing that I have as much influence on global environmental policy as I would had I never been born.
 
 Conservation is more urgent than ever. Scientists inform us that the combined effects of fossil-fuel consumption, land clearance, and overfishing the planet's seas have already ushered in a period of "mass global extinction," the sixth so far recorded in Earth's history, and the only one to be entirely man-made. In the next century, between two-thirds and three-fourths of all plant and animal species now in existence could become permanently extinct. But by carefully conserving water with the specially designed low-impact toilet I had installed, I can take comfort in the knowledge that I did what I could do to delay this inevitable global death-age by as many as several nanoseconds.
 
 Won't you join me in this ongoing effort to foster an imperceptible improvement to this doomed and dying planet? You'll be rewarded with the knowledge that, despite the irreversible effects of centuries of sustained environmental abuse by the human race, individuals, working together, can fight this inevitability in a real, concrete, tiny, and totally ineffective show of unity.
 
 Together, we can make an unbelievably negligible difference.
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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #3 on: May 12, 2006, 09:10:00 pm »
there is a camera in everyones tv set and they can watch you.

ryanbender87

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #4 on: May 12, 2006, 10:37:00 pm »
well then, id like to state for the record my name is shackleford...rusty shackleford

walkonby

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #5 on: May 14, 2006, 06:11:00 pm »
Quote
Originally posted by Venerable Bede:
  I'm Doing My Inconsequential Part For The Environment
 May 10, 2006 | Issue 42â?¢19
 
 As human beings continue to wreak havoc on the ecosystem, with seemingly no awareness of the long-term effects of our shortsighted actions, we seriously jeopardize the fragile balance of life on this big blue marble we call Spaceship Earth. Now is the time to take steps toward creating a cleaner environment, however insignificant and useless those steps may be. That's why I'm doing my own laughably inconsequential part to end pollution, limit damage to our precious ecosystem, and preserve what remains of our planet's biodiversity for future generations.
 
 Every day, without fail, I meticulously organize my recyclables into five distinct categories, thereby subtracting an eyedropper's worth of garbage from the countless tons of waste that ferment in our landfills. It only takes a few extra minutes, but just think of the impact it totally lacks. I also refuse to use anything but "Earth-friendly" paper productsâ??some of which contain up to 10 percent recycled materials. For me, it's worth shouldering the extra cost, but, unfortunately, only a scant few of us bother to do the same. And growing some of my own organic vegetables in my backyard garden also, to my immense gratification, reduces the use of toxic chemical-based pesticides and herbicides present in corporate farming techniques by as much as 0.0000000000000000000000000000000000000001 percent.
 
 These quixotic, Sisyphean efforts are my way of dealing with what is perhaps the most crucial and difficult issue of our time.
 
 Why do I boycott multinational oil and gas corporations that fail to acknowledge and address global-warming issues, resulting in a few less dollars in their swollen coffers? Or participate in demonstrations against local wetland destruction that are attended by as many as a dozen people, before the wetland is eventually drained and cleared for a new Wal-Mart anyway? Why make the effort? Because I care. And I want these feelings to manifest themselves in barely measurable ways.
 
 By using mass transit or riding my bike whenever possible, I may not be able to influence greenhouse-gas emissions standards or reduce mass global addiction to fossil fuels one iota. Nor, by slavishly collecting every banana peel or coffee ground to make my own rich garden compost, will I alter our consumer culture's pathological tendency to devour everything it encounters at an exponentially advancing rate. Restricting my household energy use to non-peak hours does not make me capable of reversing temperature changes in the gulf stream that even now have begun to throw the world's climate out of equilibrium. The question, however, is not "What can't I do?" but rather, "What can I do?"
 
 The answer: next to nothing.
 
 At the very least, I know with absolute certainty that I have done everything I can to nurture and protect the environment, through genuinely well-intentioned albeit minuscule actions, tragically destined to have absolutely no substantive effect. For I sleep better at night knowing that I have as much influence on global environmental policy as I would had I never been born.
 
 Conservation is more urgent than ever. Scientists inform us that the combined effects of fossil-fuel consumption, land clearance, and overfishing the planet's seas have already ushered in a period of "mass global extinction," the sixth so far recorded in Earth's history, and the only one to be entirely man-made. In the next century, between two-thirds and three-fourths of all plant and animal species now in existence could become permanently extinct. But by carefully conserving water with the specially designed low-impact toilet I had installed, I can take comfort in the knowledge that I did what I could do to delay this inevitable global death-age by as many as several nanoseconds.
 
 Won't you join me in this ongoing effort to foster an imperceptible improvement to this doomed and dying planet? You'll be rewarded with the knowledge that, despite the irreversible effects of centuries of sustained environmental abuse by the human race, individuals, working together, can fight this inevitability in a real, concrete, tiny, and totally ineffective show of unity.
 
 Together, we can make an unbelievably negligible difference.
too many big words spoil the point.

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #6 on: May 14, 2006, 07:32:00 pm »
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Originally posted by anarchist:
  there is a camera in everyones tv set and they can watch you.
hunny, i wouldn't be surprised if there were cameras in our vibrators.  the government is EVERYWHERE.

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #7 on: May 14, 2006, 08:56:00 pm »
Ummmm...."our vibrators"?  Aren't you fifteen?  God, I've lived too long.

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #8 on: May 14, 2006, 09:30:00 pm »
A very wise fifteen!
 And she's probably right.
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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #9 on: May 14, 2006, 10:57:00 pm »
it was a collective "our."   :)  
 
 but, i mean, i'm serious.  for gods sake, you could walk into almost any department store right now and they'd have record of every purchase and return and exchange you've ever made in any one of their stores right in those little evil computers of theirs.  and that's not just market research.  everything that we do (and especially on the internet) is monitored these days.  i wouldn't be surprised if some secret agent was reading this thread as we speak.

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #10 on: May 14, 2006, 11:16:00 pm »
http://www.radioopensource.org/the-nsas-new-new-phone-database/
 
 William Gibson on NSA wiretapping
 
 Open Source Radio did a special yesterday on the NSA's indiscriminate, illegal wiretapping of American citizens, revealed in an expose in yesterday's USA Today. They got William Gibson on for a rare interview and he was fascinating, trying to place this in context as a spasm generated by humanity's inability to master its technologies.
 
 
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   I can't explain it to you, but it has a powerful deja vu. When I got up this morning and read the USA Today headline, I thought the future had been a little more evenly distributed. Now we've all got some...
 
     The interesting thing about meta-projects in the sense in which I used them [in the NYT editorial] is that I don't think species know what they're about. I don't think humanity knows why we do any of this stuff. A couple hundred years down the road, when people look back at what the NSA has done, the significance of it won't be about terrorism or Iraq or the Bush administration or the American Constitution, it will be about how we're driven by emerging technologies and how we struggle to keep up with them...
 
     I'm particularly enamored of the idea of a national security "bubble..." Technologies don't emerge unless there's someone who thinks he can make a bundle by helping them emerge...
 
     I've been watching with keen interest since the first NSA scandal: I've noticed on the Internet that there aren't many people really shocked by this. Our popular culture, our dirt-ball street culture teaches us from childhood that the CIA is listening to *all* of our telephone calls and reading *all* of our email anyway.
 
     I keep seeing that in the lower discourse of the Internet, people saying, "Oh, they're doing it anyway." In some way our culture believes that, and it's a real problem, because evidently they haven't been doing it anyway, and now that they've started, we really need to pay attention and muster some kind of viable political response.
 
     It's very hard to get some people on-board because they think it's a fait accompli...
 
     I think it's The X-Files, Nixon wiretapping, science fiction. I think it's predicated in our delirious sense of what's been happening to us as a species for the past 100 years. During the  Cold War it was almost comforting to believe that the CIA was reading everything...
 
     In the very long view, this will turn out to be about how we deal with the technological situation we find ourselves in now. We've gotten somewhere we've never been before. It's very interesting. In the short term, I've taken the position that it's very, very illegal and I hope something is done about it.

HoyaSaxa03

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #11 on: May 15, 2006, 12:49:00 am »
has anyone read this yet?  looks pretty interesting...
(o|o)

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #12 on: May 15, 2006, 07:54:00 am »
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  there is a camera in everyones tv set and they can watch you.
In Communist Russia TV watches YOU!

anarchist

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #13 on: May 15, 2006, 06:37:00 pm »
does 930 have cameras?  are they watching us?  do they have a highlight reel?

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Re: is george bush listening to us???
« Reply #14 on: May 15, 2006, 07:49:00 pm »
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Originally posted by anarchist:
  there is a camera in everyones tv set and they can watch you.
hunny, i wouldn't be surprised if there were cameras in our vibrators.  the government is EVERYWHERE. [/b]
Man, I can't think of anything more erotic than having Donald Rumsfeld getting off the US female population.