discussed while i was away?

[walkonby]

live shows and me are varied and few between, especially with the state of the music industry inventing it's re-revolution of ripping off the concert attendee. i've been only reading the forum lately, and i don't know if this has been discussed, but when the sale date of radiohead happened, i went to stubhub to laugh at the prices they had, and noticed they had tickets for sale for shows not on sale yet or even announced at the venue on any other site.  how does one sell tickets to unannounced shows?  they even had tickets to the 930 club, such as the breeders show so far in advance it was baffling. buying tickets "when they go on sale to the public" is such a chore now. (i know, poor me.)    :roll:

[walkonby]

does noone care about this topic, or was it just missed, or is this just another rambling b.s. by walkonby about tickets.  just seems like another stubhubb/ticketmaster connection conspiracy.  and even tickets.com tickets are now involved, since they supply tickets to the club.

[sweetcell]

anyone can post anything on stubhub, ebay, CL, etc.  and they do.
 
 essentially, the scalper is promising that if you're stupid enough to pay his ridiculous inflated prices, he'll find the tickets for you.  chances are, he'll just buy them from another scalper after tickets have gone on sale, and pass them on to the paranoid sap who paid his pre-onsale inflated price.  they're praying on people's fear that they won't get tickets at all, so they post those "tickets" for sale before anyone has tickets in hand - including the scalper himself.
 
 there is no grand conspiracy.  it's simple greed.  but i'm told that if you make yourself a hat out of aluminium foil, it'll protect you from the scalpers' mind-control rays.

[Bombay Chutney]

The only time sales like that bother me are when people have specific seat assignments listed for shows that haven't gone on sale yet.  That means they're probably scalping their subscription seats, company tickets or the like.   That seems pretty lame to me.
 
 But for GA shows?  Nah.  90% of GA shows are very  easy to get tickets to.  And if you're in the ticket business and have even the slightest network of connections, it's pretty much a given that you'll get plenty of tickets to any GA event.  It doesn't surprise me at all that they put them up in advance, knowing they'll get the tickets eventually and somebody will panic and pay too much for them.  If nothing else, they're just testing the market to see how much interest there is.

[walkonby]

this would of been much more interesting without the tin hat, logical explanation.

[azaghal1981]

My brother in-law nearly fell victim to this (REM this june) and was considering paying upwards of $200 for tickets that hadn't gone on sale yet.
 He'd thought they had sold out until I told him otherwise.
 
 

Originally posted by sweetcell:
  anyone can post anything on stubhub, ebay, CL, etc.  and they do.
 
 essentially, the scalper is promising that if you're stupid enough to pay his ridiculous inflated prices, he'll find the tickets for you.  chances are, he'll just buy them from another scalper after tickets have gone on sale, and pass them on to the paranoid sap who paid his pre-onsale inflated price.  they're praying on people's fear that they won't get tickets at all, so they post those "tickets" for sale before anyone has tickets in hand - including the scalper himself.
 
 there is no grand conspiracy.  it's simple greed.  but i'm told that if you make yourself a hat out of aluminium foil, it'll protect you from the scalpers' mind-control rays.