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[Celeste]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 22 year olds listening to classive alternative rock like VU and JD is about as boring as when I was 22 and people were listening to crap like Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd.

hey, they rule!!!!!!!!!!!!

[ggw]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Also, at 43, you're old enough to have been around and appreciated VU and JD back when they were making music.
 
    I remember back in the mid-80s what attracted me to the alternative rock scene was that it was a reaction to how the mainstream worshipped classic rock from the 70's.
 
    22 year olds listening to classive alternative rock like VU and JD is about as boring as when I was 22 and people were listening to crap like Led Zepplin and Pink Floyd.
 

If they had installed the search function, I could find the posts in which you stated you thought the best music was from the 1930s and 1940s.  
 
 But you weren't around then, so I guess you're just some 36-year old snot who read in a book how wonderful that music was.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

probably because tehy're a bunch of 22 year old snots that read in some book about how wonderful Joy Division and Velvet Underground were.
 
    Those look more like disparaging comments pitchfork writers than they do about ian curtis, don't they?
 
    And why can't I comment on my opinion of a band? If they didn't want people to have opinions of them, they should never have released music to the public. The guy hangs himself and thus people aren't allowed to have a negative opinion of his work? I suppose we're all supposed to worship at the alter of Milli Vanilli as well?
 
 
 

Originally posted by SPARX:
 

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 [QB] It's a personal vendetta against pitchfork for their denigrating coverage of alt-country, when they even bother to cover it at all.
 
   
 
 

What does that have to do with your desparaging comments about the late Ian Curtis?Let the man rest in peace,he obviously didn't have it while he was here.Talking badly of the dead is just wrong and pointless IMHO.But if it floats your boat... [/b]

[SPARX]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 
    And why can't I comment on my opinion of a band?
 
   

   
 To reiterate:
  [.But if it floats your boat... [/b]

[/QB]

[markie]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 
    I remember back in the mid-80s what attracted me to the alternative rock scene was that it was a reaction to how the mainstream worshipped classic rock from the 70's.
 

I remember back in 89 (I was 16), when I bought the album I still incorrectly think is called "andy warhol". I recall not really knowing anything about the VU. But hey Andy Warhol was cool, and the record has a great cover and hell it was a Great British Pound from a car boot sale.
 
 I remember all these details because the record blew me away. It has great pacing , the momentum of heroin alone is astounding.
 
 
 Just because you find something staid or boring, doesnt mean it isnt dramatically better than the vast majority of current releases. I suspect people will continue to buy andy warhol in the years to come and enjoy it as mch as I did.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

Thanks for sharing, ye classic rock fan. I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
 
 

Originally posted by mark e smith:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 
    I remember back in the mid-80s what attracted me to the alternative rock scene was that it was a reaction to how the mainstream worshipped classic rock from the 70's.
 

I remember back in 89 (I was 16), when I bought the album I still incorrectly think is called "andy warhol". I recall not really knowing anything about the VU. But hey Andy Warhol was cool, and the record has a great cover and hell it was a Great British Pound from a car boot sale.
 
 I remember all these details because the record blew me away. It has great pacing , the momentum of heroin alone is astounding.
 
 
 Just because you find something staid or boring, doesnt mean it isnt dramatically better than the vast majority of current releases. I suspect people will continue to buy andy warhol in the years to come and enjoy it as mch as I did. [/b]

[markie]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
   I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
 
   

That is interesting. Do you pass on all forms of art/ music/ literature/ religion/ entertainment, because you cannot relate?
 
 I suppose you have been nailed to the cross a few times, right?
 
 I thought the beauty of those things were that they were escapism/ they gave you an insite into someone else' life? No?

[ggw]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Thanks for sharing, ye classic rock fan. I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
 

Yet somehow you can relate to Depression-era ballads about coal mining, train wrecks, and moonshining?
 
 At least Lou sings about trannies.  That's right up your alley.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

No, I don't pass on all forms or whatever. If I feel it can offer me incite into how to live a more fulfilling and happy life or to understand myself or my roots better, I'll happily listen.
 
    As it is, I don't think insight into the life of a tranny loving junkie from NYC would really benefit in making my life any better.
 
 

Originally posted by mark e smith:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
   I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
 
   

That is interesting. Do you pass on all forms of art/ music/ literature/ religion/ entertainment, because you cannot relate?
 
 I suppose you have been nailed to the cross a few times, right?
 
 I thought the beauty of those things were that they were escapism/ they gave you an insite into someone else' life? No? [/b]

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

My late grandfather ran away from his Georgia home at the age of 14 and lived on freight trains as a hobo for several years.
 
    As it is, I had one regettable blind date with someone who didn't in advance divulge information about their sexual identity. Upon out the truth, I promptly ended said date, and really dan't have any desire to be in the physical or intellectual company of any trannies or tranny lovers in te future.
 
    So yes, I choose to relate to Depression-era lyrics more than tranny lyrics.
 
   
 
 
 

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Thanks for sharing, ye classic rock fan. I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
 

Yet somehow you can relate to Depression-era ballads about coal mining, train wrecks, and moonshining?
 
 At least Lou sings about trannies.  That's right up your alley. [/b]

[ggw]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 I choose to relate to Depression-era lyrics more than tranny lyrics.
 

Oh, so it is a choice?
 
 So your earlier statements were bogus.
 
 Thanks for clarifying, dumbass.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I'm not sure what you're referring to, but calling people names only makes you look like a small person.
 
 

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 I choose to relate to Depression-era lyrics more than tranny lyrics.
 

Oh, so it is a choice?
 
 So your earlier statements were bogus.
 
 Thanks for clarifying, dumbass. [/b]

[ggw]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I'm not sure what you're referring to, but calling people names only makes you look like a small person.
 

I'm referring to your earlier statement that 22 year olds couldn't like VU because they weren't around when the music was made.
 
 Yet you can like Depression-era music even though you weren't around then.
 
 I'm referring to your idea that people can't like music that doesn't directly relate to their lives.
 
 Yet you can choose to like music that doesn't directly relate to your life.
 
 The fact that you hold these inconsistencies and further, that you couldn't figure out that is what I was referring to makes "dumbass" an accurate observation.

[markie]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 
 
  I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
 
  I choose to relate to Depression-era lyrics more than tranny lyrics.
 
 

[/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 How can you relate to depression era lyrics. You are not old enough to have lived through the depression, are you? So as GGW has pointed out your comments were untruthful.
 
 Still there are plenty of songs and books about statistics. You should be good to your word and stick to them.

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  Thanks for sharing, ye classic rock fan. I'll pass on songs about Heroin. Can't relate.
 

Yet somehow you can relate to Depression-era ballads about coal mining, train wrecks, and moonshining?
 
 At least Lou sings about trannies.  That's right up your alley. [/b]

Rhett, dude...
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