cheeseball Britpop

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

If a 22 year old want to listen to music made about heroin 30 years ago, fine. Doesn't really seem like interesting subject matter to me, nor does it touch upon anything relevant in my life, so I'll pass.
 
    Given that Depression era events did touch on people who were directly related to me and perhaps might give me some insight into my family history, I think they are of some relevance to my present life.
 
    The fact that you feel the need to refer to someone as a "dumbass" points out that you'll never win the Mr. Sensitivity award you were vying for on your Polanski thread. Self-righteous, yes, sensitive, no.  
 
 

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I'm not sure what you're referring to, but calling people names only makes you look like a small person.
 

I'm referring to your earlier statement that 22 year olds couldn't like VU because they weren't around when the music was made.
 
 Yet you can like Depression-era music even though you weren't around then.
 
 I'm referring to your idea that people can't like music that doesn't directly relate to their lives.
 
 Yet you can choose to like music that doesn't directly relate to your life.
 
 The fact that you hold these inconsistencies and further, that you couldn't figure out that is what I was referring to makes "dumbass" an accurate observation. [/b]

[markie]

If a 35 year old wants to read a book made about some guy nailed to a cross 2000 years ago, fine. Doesn't really seem like interesting subject matter to me, nor does it touch upon anything relevant in my life, so I'll pass.
 
 Given that bisexual gender bending  events did touch on  you and perhaps might give you some insight into your family history, I think they are of some relevance to your present life.
 
    The fact someone feels the need  to refer to you as a "dumbass" points out that you'll never win the Mr Argument award you were vying for on this thread. Self-righteous, yes, good at arguing, no.

[ggw]

Markie, that brought a tear to my eye.  I couldn't have done a finer job myself.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

I'll pass on reading about Jesus too, thanks.
 
 Bisexual yes. Gender bending, no. Yes I do have an interest in bisexuality, both male and female, but no I don't have any interest in transsexualism.
 
 I didn't know I was vying for a Mr Argument award. I simply stated my opinions, and certain people chose to object to them. My intention was th state my opinion, not start an argument.
 
 
 

Originally posted by mark e smith:
  If a 35 year old wants to read a book made about some guy nailed to a cross 2000 years ago, fine. Doesn't really seem like interesting subject matter to me, nor does it touch upon anything relevant in my life, so I'll pass.
 
 Given that bisexual gender bending  events did touch on  you and perhaps might give you some insight into your family history, I think they are of some relevance to your present life.
 
    The fact someone feels the need  to refer to you as a "dumbass" points out that you'll never win the Mr Argument award you were vying for on this thread. Self-righteous, yes, good at arguing, no.

[markie]

Originally posted by ggwâ?¢:
  Markie, that brought a tear to my eye.  I couldn't have done a finer job myself.

Thankyou GGW. I have been feeling a little ineffectual today. I am glad you think I am back on form.

[markie]

Kosmo, do you need one of these?  <img src="http://www.wouldyouhitthis.com/forums/images/smilies/offtopic.gif" alt=" - " />

[kosmo vinyl]

will you please stay on topic!!!!
 
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[kosmo vinyl]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
  Kosmo, do you need one of these?  

[markie]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
  I'll pass on reading about Jesus too, thanks.
 
 

You always go on about the bible, and I thought you were a Christian. I suppose that as you don't want to read about our good lord Jesus, you think that the billion Christians on the planet should not either?
 
 
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 Bisexual yes. Gender bending, no. Yes I do have an interest in bisexuality, both male and female, but no I don't have any interest in transsexualism.

sure, we know who wears the trousers, you are not even allowed to enjoy Joy division anymore!
 
 
   

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
 
 
 I didn't know I was vying for a Mr Argument award. I simply stated my opinions, and certain people chose to object to them. My intention was th state my opinion, not start an argument.
 
 
 

Its just that you make profound statements that contradict yourself and transcend rational thought.

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

As any Christian will tell you, rational thought is overrated. (joke)
 
    I don't take this chatboard serious enough to use it as a venue to prove how much smarter I am than anybody else. Frankly, I could care less how I stack up in the latest intelligence rankings. I'd rather be slightly above average in intelligence than brilliant anyway.
 
    If I say things that contradict each other, it's because I'm human. Normal human beings often have thoughts and emotions that contradict each other. I'm not interested in having the intellectual consistency of a robot.
 
    And I don't recall ever going on about the bible, but if you'd like to hear my thoughts on it, Id be glad to share. Though I have no interest in having an argument about it.
 
 
    As the Judeo-Christian ethic is part of the backbone of western culture, I'd think it would be hard for anyone not to be impacted by the bible in some way or another, be it directly or indirectly.
 
    And no, I'm not a Christian.

[mankie]

On the subject of religion, did anyone see Southpark last night?
 
 CLASSIC!
 
 My thoughts on the Mormons completely....that bloke really saw them all coming didn't he?

[markie]

Originally posted by Rhett Miller:
     If I say things that contradict each other, it's because I'm human. Normal human beings often have thoughts and emotions that contradict each other. I'm not interested in having the intellectual consistency of a robot.
 
   

Ok, My bad, Walter.
 
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[Bags]

What I find most interesting (really, I'm saying interesting and I mean interesting, I'm not being argumentative or baiting) is that the lyrics are so important as the premise for the debate over particular bands -- the whole discussion about whether a band is any good or worthy centers on what they sing about.  I'm fascinated.  There are few bands for which I know all their lyrics, and I have to admit to listening to quite a lot of stuff just 'cuz I like the way it all works and I'm not even sure what they're 'talking' about.
 
 Though I do agree that you can certainly appreciate songs that are about and evoke things that have *nothing* to do with your life, personal history, proclivities or interests.  That's kind of what makes art cool.  I love the Decemberists, though I certainly don't give a shit about ocean voyages or dockside prostitutes....

[Celeste]

Originally posted by Bagster:
  What I find most interesting (really, I'm saying interesting and I mean interesting, I'm not being argumentative or baiting) is that the lyrics are so important as the premise for the debate over particular bands --

I'll go along on this...I don't like VU because I don't like their sound...I actually am a much more music-oriented listener than lyric-oriented, myself, being the vapid blonde that I am...
 
 There was a discussion on music vs. lyrics on the board before...

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

With the VU I don't like the lyrics or the singer's voice. Some of the music is ok, some mediocre.
 
    With Joy Division, I can't get my the singer's voice, and I don't like the music. The lyrics? Can't really understand them.
 
    With someone like Bob Dylan, I think he writes good songs, both musically and lyrically, but I can't take his voice.
 
    So I would say the singing and the music are probably the most crucial to me. Like Bagster, if the music is good, I don't mind if the singer sings about ocean cruises or other topics that don't interest me. I do mind if the singer sings about stuff like hard drug use, particularly if he glamorizes it in any way.