DC Smoking Ban Vote Today

[Bags]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  This is one of those things we're going to look back at 20 years from now and laugh and say, "I can't believe we used to do that"

It's true...I already think that about smoking in movie theaters or an office -- it's so totally untinkable now.  You see some of these old movies and you think, "holy shit, they are PUFFING AWAY right at their desk, or in the meeting with the big boss -- hell, the boss has a box of cigarettes and a big old fancy lighter on the coffee table in his office?!?"

[ccfalzon]

watching all of the smoking in "Good Night, and Good Luck" totally freaked me out. I had totally forgotten that all of my parents' friends had ashtrays on their desks and tables until about 20 years ago.
 
 I was living in NYC when the smoking ban took effect there, and as a smoker, I thought I would hate it. It didn't force me to quit, but it is pretty nice to go home from a bar and not have your clothes and hair smelling like ass the next day. I have no problems with going outside to feed my addiction. Here's to a smoke-free DC.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by Bags:
  It's true...I already think that about smoking in movie theaters or an office -- it's so totally untinkable now.  

How about smoking on planes?  If you're over 30 you may remember non-smoking sections on planes?  How ridiculous of an idea was that?
 
 It wasn't until 1988 that smoking bans of varying degrees on planes started in the US and 1998 before a complete ban on US flights.  Amazing.

[ratioci nation]

Originally posted by vansmack:
  How about smoking on planes?  If you're over 30 you may remember non-smoking sections on planes?  How ridiculous of an idea was that?
 
 It wasn't until 1988 that smoking bans of varying degrees on planes started in the US and 1998 before a complete ban on US flights.  Amazing.

over 30? I remember sitting next to my dad as he smoked away on planes all the time as a kid, really was screwed up.  The first few years after smoking was no longer allowed on flights he was hell to fly with.

[brennser]

"holy shit, they are PUFFING AWAY right at their desk, or in the meeting with the big boss -- hell, the boss has a box of cigarettes and a big old fancy lighter on the coffee table in his office?!?"

brings back memories of working in Egypt with the addition of constantly ringing cellphones in meetings and people conducting celphone conversations in meetings!)

[HoyaSaxa03]

Originally posted by frenchpiece:
  watching all of the smoking in "Good Night, and Good Luck" totally freaked me out. I had totally forgotten that all of my parents' friends had ashtrays on their desks and tables until about 20 years ago.

there was not a second in that movie where someone wasn't taking a drag off a cigarette, literally ... it was killing me, i lit up right when i got out of the theatre ... great movie, by the way

[myuman]

I think the middle ground is obvious here.  Permits should be issued on a three category basis.  Cat. 1 is no smoking.  This permit will run 1k a year.  Any one person found smoking whether it be band member or uninformed patron will result in a one time 5k fine paid by the establishment. Second offense automatically demotes to cat 2 and all cost that pertain.   Cat. 2 will be limited smoking.  This permit will run 5k per year and be dependent on smoke parts per one million found in the air.  The only way to achieve these specified levels is with a certified filtering unit installed every 1000 square feet.  Quarterly inspection mandatory of course (for a fee).  Exceeding the parts per one million limit will result in a one time 5k fine.  Second offense, demotion to cat. 3.  Cat 3 is a full-on cancer shack.  20k per year.  All Categories require standardized signs posted outside venue... for a fee.  Maybe then this city can fund Williams's pet over on the anacostia.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by myuman:
  Cat. 1 is no smoking.  This permit will run 1k a year.  Any one person found smoking whether it be band member or uninformed patron will result in a one time 5k fine paid by the establishment.

You would need a permit to prohibit someone from doing something?  Then just what would you be permitting?

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 Tell St.Peter at the pearly gate that you just hate to make him wait...but you've gotta have just one more cigarette

[dlcjr1775]

Oh how i long for the days when supply and demand were conneted, when business owners decided what went on in their establishments, how about an owner opening up a non-smoking club. Lots of artists would sign up. I know one DC resident who might agree. BOB MOULD.

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by brennser:
   

"holy shit, they are PUFFING AWAY right at their desk, or in the meeting with the big boss -- hell, the boss has a box of cigarettes and a big old fancy lighter on the coffee table in his office?!?"

brings back memories of working in Egypt with the addition of constantly ringing cellphones in meetings and people conducting celphone conversations in meetings!) [/b]

..and car horns, just what the *uck is it with Egyptians and their car horns? They just drive down the road "BEEP BEEP BEEP" for no reason whatsoever.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by dlcjr1775:
  Oh how i long for the days when supply and demand were conneted, when business owners decided what went on in their establishments, how about an owner opening up a non-smoking club. Lots of artists would sign up.  

Yeah, and carry guns in our holsters and have duels when one guy tried to take another mans whore, who was perusing the establishment, and black people, when they weren't cleaning out the stock room, could use a different water fountain when they were thirsty.
 
 This civilized society stuff is for the birds.

[tooms]

I'm a non-smoker former DC resident now living in NY. I was totally against the smoking ban when it first was considered in DC.  I'm not a vigliant anti-smoker.  if people want to do it, it's their choice, even if it's not good for you.  And smoking and bars go together and it just came with the territory.  
 
 when i moved to NY almost 2 years ago, the smoking ban had recently been enacted.  I now have done a 180 on this and am totally in support of the ban in bars.  It's a huge difference and every smoker up here has adapted.  No one really complains about it anymore.  And no one's stopped going to bars.  In fact, it may even have increased the number of people who go.  Even many smokers i know like the ban b/c they didn't always like being surrounded by smoke either.  and not having your clothes and hair smell like smoke in the morning is great.

[Frank Gallagher]

Originally posted by vansmack:
   

Originally posted by dlcjr1775:
  Oh how i long for the days when supply and demand were conneted, when business owners decided what went on in their establishments, how about an owner opening up a non-smoking club. Lots of artists would sign up.  

Yeah, and carry guns in our holsters and have duels when one guy tried to take another mans whore,  [/b]

You need a visit back to DC my friend.