There may be hope for the US justice system after all.

[mankie]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
   

Originally posted by Bagster:/qb]

I agree with Celeste on this.  Isn't "interfering" the fertility treatments themselves? [/b]

Sure...... If you wish to reject fertility treatments you may also wish to forgo all the benefits of modern medicine too? A lot of people use medical devices to prevent becoming pregnant, why not use medical help to become pregnant? [/QB][/QUOTE]
 
 You mean like Dolly E Smith?
 
  <img src="http://www.stanford.edu/~eclipse9/sts129/cloning/images2/dolly.jpg" alt=" - " />
 
 And here's her family tree.
 
  <img src="http://www.heaf.freeuk.com/dolly.gif" alt=" - " />

[markie]

Well cloning is going a bit far......
 
 But it seems unlikely until an artificial womb is developed. There were several hundred implantations to make one dolly. Such a low success rate is not acceptale in humans.
 
 That is why it will remain impossible to clone people for some time.

[ggw]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
 That is why it will remain impossible to clone people for some time.

Tell it to the Raelians

[mankie]

Originally posted by mark e smith:
  Well cloning is going a bit far......
 
 

please tell me, Mr. medical ethicist...where is the line drawn between acceptable and too far?

[Celeste]

posting big-ass images wider than 650 pixels at 72 dpi resolution is going too far!

[markie]

The Raelians were already outed as fraudsters...
 
 Going too far, well that image was too far......
 
 But as for ethics medical science likes to push at the boundries of ethics..... Dissections were unethical, Heart transplants at first caused a furore.... Which looking back seems almost unbelievable.
 
 Cloning on the other hand (for humans) maybe be seen as repugnant and morally inacceptable, as well as narcisistic.
 
 
 Right now though it is too dangerous as clones may prematurely age, due to what happens at the end of chromosomes... the bits of DNA. Telomeres, the DNA ends, shorten as you get older..... Will clones have shortened telomeres age prematurely? There have not been enough mamalian clones generated that have gone into old age to approach answering that question.

[paige]

Originally posted by Celeste:
  posting big-ass images wider than 650 pixels at 72 dpi resolution is going too far!

I AGREE! hahaha.
 
 those damn raelians are crazy. they claim to have cloned someone, but i doubt that. it's pretty weird to think that if cloning with humans is successful at one point, fertilization can be rendered unnecessary...which means men will have exactly 0 uses in this world.    well, unless they're just really cute to look at.

[mankie]

Originally posted by Celeste:
  posting big-ass images wider than 650 pixels at 72 dpi resolution is going too far!

And posting long, boring comments that go on and on about topics that nobody but Rhe...err I mean the person posting has any interest in is also going too far. We all have our limits!

[flawd101]

i think father jackson would clone himeself......then he could sleep with himself as a young boy.....

[Celeste]

Originally posted by mankie:
   

Originally posted by Celeste:
  posting big-ass images wider than 650 pixels at 72 dpi resolution is going too far!

And posting long, boring comments that go on and on about topics that nobody but Rhe...err I mean the person posting has any interest in is also going too far. We all have our limits! [/b]

you started this thread, fuckface, whaddaya want?