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[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
  i know their managment and they are not ones to back down/give in to a letter like that and doubt they are scared of a lawsuit.

You know their management? I know their management! I had breakfast with their management once; he had a dozen eggs and washed it down with an entire glass of liquid LSD! Slept for 8 months, and when he got up, said, "All things considered - I think I like whiskey better!" Hell of a guy!

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Julian, faux celeb-porn CONNOISSEUR:
   

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
  i know their managment and they are not ones to back down/give in to a letter like that and doubt they are scared of a lawsuit.

You know their management? I know their management! I had breakfast with their management once; he had a dozen eggs and washed it down with an entire glass of liquid LSD! Slept for 8 months, and when he got up, said, "All things considered - I think I like whiskey better!" Hell of a guy! [/b]

what the fuck are you talking about?

[Julian, Alleged Computer F**kface]

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
 what the fuck are you talking about?

Nevermind - old reference.

[Fico]

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
  i dont understand how you could sue Sonar.  and why bother them with this type of thing.  it seems like it really should be between Cartel and Cartel. especially since Sonar booked Acceptance and Cartel kinda just came along with them.
 
  any word back from Sonar? i know their managment and they are not ones to back down/give in to a letter like that and doubt they are scared of a lawsuit.

We are not suing them...if you read the letter we are bringing our dispute with Cartel to their attention...and telling them that BY LAW Cartel (Atlanta) should not be allowed to perform under the moniker...now, they can choose to do what is right, or ignore it...hey, I'm aware it's a losing battle..it's been so far that way, we are just a small band from DC...if we were a big band with a record label behind us I bet you the other Cartel's name would've been taken off the website immediately...but such is life..$$$ runs it all and all we can hope for is people respecting the law without the need for active enforcement..utopia, I know..

[sonickteam2]

Originally posted by Fico:
   

Originally posted by sonickteam4:
  i dont understand how you could sue Sonar.  and why bother them with this type of thing.  it seems like it really should be between Cartel and Cartel. especially since Sonar booked Acceptance and Cartel kinda just came along with them.
 
  any word back from Sonar? i know their managment and they are not ones to back down/give in to a letter like that and doubt they are scared of a lawsuit.

We are not suing them...if you read the letter we are bringing our dispute with Cartel to their attention...and telling them that BY LAW Cartel (Atlanta) should not be allowed to perform under the moniker...now, they can choose to do what is right, or ignore it...hey, I'm aware it's a losing battle..it's been so far that way, we are just a small band from DC...if we were a big band with a record label behind us I bet you the other Cartel's name would've been taken off the website immediately...but such is life..$$$ runs it all and all we can hope for is people respecting the law without the need for active enforcement..utopia, I know.. [/b]

i did read the letter and it warned of taking legal action. I am sure the owner of Sonar read your letter and chuckled.  
   
   thats not my opinion though, i think it stinks, and as long as you had the name first, you should be able to keep it.
 
   maybe have a battle of the bands!!! better band gets to keep the name (you should definitely be for this one!)

[amnesiac]

Black Cat:
 TUES SEPT 13- LADYBUG MECCA (of Digable Planets), MARTIN LUTHER, STEVE SPACEK & MR FRENCH as STEVENI $15adv/$18door mainstage 8:30

[Charlie Nakatestes, Japanese Golfer]

8.5.05 | Iggy And The Stooges Headline Bumbershoot Mainstage Monday Night!
 Iggy and The Stooges, the legendary band that many credit for kick starting the punk rock, garage rock, and heavy metal movements, will join the Bumbershoot lineup and headline Monday night�??s Mainstage show!
 
 Originally formed in 1967 in Ann Arbor, Michigan, the Stooges recorded three seminal albums �?? The Stooges, Fun House,and Raw Power �?? before disbanding in 1973. Iggy�??s onstage antics and the raw, unrefined sound of the band made them an underground sensation, but the band was considered too weird and too dangerous to break into the mainstream. However, the legend and the cult following of the band continued to grow even after they parted ways, and new bands took up where the trailblazing Stooges left off. Iggy Pop has pursued a successful solo career, releasing [now] classic albums such as The Idiot and Lust For Life, and in 2003 he organized a Stooges reunion. He recruited original Stooges Ron and Scott Asheton to perform four songs on his album Skull Ring, and they hit the road for a short but enthusiastically received tour. With Mike Watt (Minutemen, fIREHOSE) standing in for the late Dave Alexander, the reunion of Iggy and The Stooges is giving fans of all generations a chance to witness their legendary �??raw power�?� in real life.
 
 
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[LRHippo]

Fico, question for you, as I know nothing about your Cartel vs. Cartel Atlanta. Who has been in existance longer? My understanding, and I'm waiting for clarification on this, is that regarldess of when you got the trademark on the name, if Cartel Atlanta popped up and played a show the day before, they've got you beat. Whomever has been using the name longer, in the public, has the rights to the name. Again, I'm waiting for confirmation on this (my mother-in-law works in trademark law) but that's my understanding.

[eltee]

Originally posted by brennser:
  Juliana Hatfield is doing a Revolution Records in-store on Sat. Aug.13th at 4PM

Hey, thanks for the head's up.

[vansmack]

Originally posted by BrnAgnTaper:
   My understanding, and I'm waiting for clarification on this, is that regarldess of when you got the trademark on the name, if Cartel Atlanta popped up and played a show the day before, they've got you beat. Whomever has been using the name longer, in the public, has the rights to the name.

Federal law dominates trademarks these days, and while Cartel DC are relying MD Common Law, Fed law will eventually trump all.
 
 Fed Trademark law is either (1) First to Use or (2) First to Register with the PTO.  While registration is not required, it does offer you nationwide protection.
 
 Maryland also offers registered trademarks, and I would advise Cartel to register their trademark in MD if they decide not to use the PTO.  A registered trade mark is much more powerful then relying on common law.

[eltee]

And if you guys get signed to a label - don't ever break-up.   :p

[frostytheswami]

A couple Baltimore shows I ran across:
 
 Secret Machines/Helio Sequence
 8/10 Recher Theatre
 
 Kings of Leon
 either 9/24 or 9/25 Sonar

[cb95]

New Pornographers
 with Immaculate Machine, Destroyer
 9:30 Club
 10/15/2005
 
 http://www.matadorrecords.com/tours/index.html

[bearman🐻]

God DAMN it...I am missing Iggy. I leave Seattle that day. ARGH!!!

[beyond and back]

EC was awesome,as was Emmylou,and though the sound was a bit out of control at first,things evened out well...and yes;you should have splurged on barn seating...even with the heat,being inside made it all more...real...
 especially the part about the liar
 that runs(?)this little country...
 Double-plus-good for Elvis!
 Note:running into my ex and her new husband before the festivities was surreal/humorous as always;last time was at Iota for John Doe,but then what else would you expect at an Elvis show...buy the ticket,take the ride.